mmcnier said:
Yeah, i did that on some degree. Alot of what i said got deleted. People asked me to elaborate on my view & so i did it by stating that even if the growth was unnatural, it was still growth. I said that it didn't matter HOW we became #1. I also said it didn't mean squat that VZW had a better quarter than us. We are still #1 & that is what counts.

No NO NO!
That's not what counts.
Stroking the Verizon egos is what counts.
Get it right.
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Whatever,


Bullock.

Hmmm, I think it is funny when Verizon cries foul about Cingular's size. Verizon didn't start as one company with such tremendous growth they became number one. They merged from three major carriers, Airtouch, Prime-Co and GTE Wireless.

Cingular, as one company with tremendous growing pains in the 1st Quarter, had a spectacular quarter. With all the focus they have on shooting the bad agents, especially the non-exclusives, the numbers should rise. Once Verizon starts seeing churn and enough new customers with lower A.R.P.U. from an agent channel/National Retail their numbers will be effected as well. National Retail and Agent distribution have benefits and drawbacks. Verizon will soon see the drawbacks.

Stan Sigmund isn't stupid....
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You stated eveything that I was about to. Very few companies will grow without buying others out. That is how business works.... and that my friends proves that the Verizon followers are generally idiots. Let them not buy others out. Well keep on growing and leave them in the dust. That wont happen though. Are you telling me if they get the chance to merge with a company the size of AT&T they won't? Whatever. Way to go mmcnier!

bigdaddyjay said:

jramossteel said:
You got one 😁 ... You just stated your opinion, unless you kept on going back in there and repeating the same thing over and over again, I don't see anything wrong with that...

He went back in there and repeated the same crap over and over. Expect a serious flame war to erupt over this!

Well at least it was in the Verizon Forum and not here with the cool people. 🤣

Right, I almost forgot how cool people gloat about how cool they are? Now stop trying to be cool and figure out how you guys can raise the bar since Verizon is actually doing it. 😈

bigdaddyjay said:
Right, I almost forgot how cool people gloat about how cool they are? Now stop trying to be cool and figure out how you guys can raise the bar since Verizon is actually doing it. 😈

Ugh.

I don't need to raise any bars. I don't work there so I don't care. I'm just glad someone can compete with the marketing hype of Verizon. I am happy with my Cingular service and I get great service. More bars than any other carrier I've had. Including Verizon.

Do you work for Verizon? I doubt you have anything to do with their success.

My brother does and I used to but left to work in the Mortgage Industry. I use their service here in Chicago and it is superior to Cingular.

Big money, no whamies Big money no whamies, Stop. Oh Verizon Wireless added more customers, had a much lower churn, increased ARPU and had a better Operating Cash Flow!

Hey, I hear that Springer is having a great show tomorrow! "My Biatch left me because she found out that bigger isn't always better"

Last but not least!

"This company added more customers so far this year than Cingular Wireless even though Cingular has the best Jeopardy player ever as a spokesperson"

"Who is Verizon Wirelss for 1.6 million net adds Alex!"

Gloat all you want for APRU, Churn & net adds... But in the end, we are still number one. At the cirrent trend of VZW adding more subscribers than Cignular, it will take VZW over 6 years to even catch up... You do the math.

Not going to happen that way. Cingular is going to lose alot of former AT&T wireless customers when their contracts are up.. They are not happy being bought out, and have no loyalty to Cingular. They are not being offered comparable plans, and to get a new plan must go to Cingular with a new contract, and to get a new phone must do the same. Almost half of calls to customer care are for contract dates and upset people about the merger. Just wait...

Yeah, cuz I used my time machine to predict the future... Quit acting like you KNOW what is going to happen... YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!

mmcnier said:
Yeah, cuz I used my time machine to predict the future... Quit acting like you KNOW what is going to happen... YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!

Your ignorance is what will bite you in the butt. If your company doesn't start treating it's Blue customers right they will leave!

Don't base Cingular on it's size alone, there is more than size that attracts customers!

Every Cell carrier out there is waiting to steal the ATT customers that are not happy with Cingular and the merger so if you do work for Cingy you'd better make sure you treat the Blue customers with respect!

It is Cingular's game to loose here, Verizon has added more customers in the last two quarters combine...
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I think when Cingular finally says switch or get out, they'll switch. They can't get a better deal anywhere else, nevermind how pissed they are. I migrate customers everyday from plans with more minutes for less to what we have.

Also keeping in mind that no carrier is gonna offer plans the way the AT&T did prior to the "merger" finishing because they had not a care in the world and gave the world away, because they would not have to worry about the debt, someone else would. So just because they switch it does not mean the end of the world, because as they switch, so are VzW customers or T-Mobile customers.

ralph_on_me said:
I think when Cingular finally says switch or get out, they'll switch. They can't get a better deal anywhere else

T-Mobile? They're cheaper than just about anybody.

And their phones suck....

Um... Cingular has made alot of exceptions for AT&T customers as far as rate plans go. Yes they are upset, but YOU wait and see. It willhappen with Verizon eventually (a merger) and well see how smoothly it goes. Also, alot of the AT&T customers live in areas that Verizon doesn't serve, so if they do change to a different company, whos to say it will be Verizon? I have plenty of customers happy to migrate. We offer a few things that they always wanted with AT&T.

where do att&t customers live that verizon doesnt serve?

silvabullit said:
where do att&t customers live that verizon doesnt serve?

There are areas Verizon doesn't serve, you know.

Arkansas and Oklahoma to name a few. They dont have service everywhere...

bigdaddyjay said:
Big money, no whamies Big money no whamies, Stop. Oh Verizon Wireless added more customers, had a much lower churn, increased ARPU and had a better Operating Cash Flow!

Hey, I hear that Springer is having a great show tomorrow! "My Biatch left me because she found out that bigger isn't always better"

Last but not least!

"This company added more customers so far this year than Cingular Wireless even though Cingular has the best Jeopardy player ever as a spokesperson"

"Who is Verizon Wirelss for 1.6 million net adds Alex!"

They had better arpu? Yes because they charged for roaming fees most of the quarter. They also charge overage fees which helps the arpu. They ha...
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"Can you hear me now? Nope. Can you hear me now (after 1.6 mil new customers)? Still no. Hmmm... better switch to the cingular phone. At least we dont use the same old idea for commercials over and over and over and over......

Kadman said:
I agree with the "#1 in complaints line" I'm thinking they need a new slogan: "Cingular, Raising the Bong"

HAH!
Raise the bong over here!!

I'd have to agree that Cingular needs help in the customer service department, but no one is perfect. They've been a new company for about 6 months so they have some adjusting to do. Now, if we are seeing the same thing in another 6 months, then there is a problem.

They could have Harold and Kumar as their spokesmen going forward! Thank you, come again!

Better than "Can you hear me now?" over and over again.

i can kind of understand what you are saying there; and i definitely understand that both companies had buy outs to get where they are. that's how business works. i still don't understand why having the carrier that is the largest is such a great thing? but to each his own. keep in mind i don't give a sh** what company is number 1; I'M NOT A COMPANY CHEERLEADER! so not much hurts here. thanks for the explanation though.

Mandarin sucks. All the cool kids are speaking the Cantonese dialect. 😛 😉

KnifeySpooney said:
Mandarin sucks. All the cool kids are speaking the Cantonese dialect. 😛 😉

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