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Tier II?

Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:07 PM
Anyone else waiting for tier II to answer for 10 mins??
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:08 PM
what's the question? i'm offling and bored ☚ī¸
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:09 PM
SOS only calls. Sim is correct, good coverage area, travelled with phone. No towers down. PUK request never came up....
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:10 PM
Tell the customer to throw it in the lake
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:12 PM
Hehe I think I might get fired for that one...then im in trouble.
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:13 PM
I got your back! 😁
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THE BOX

Apr 23, 2005, 4:15 PM
delete the vlr and then try
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THE BOX

Apr 23, 2005, 4:12 PM
hardshock and if that does not work disconect reconnect
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therooster

Apr 23, 2005, 4:14 PM
sometimes if you remove the sim and then replace it it forces the fone to re-recognize it. maybe that'll help ya.
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:15 PM
Ive power cycled it, ive removed the sim card and battery verified sim etc. He says PUK never came up and I dont know of anything that could cause that other than the puk code.
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therooster

Apr 23, 2005, 4:18 PM
i think he's lying to you to get out of buying a new sim. it happens. 😉
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THE BOX

Apr 23, 2005, 4:18 PM
imei sometimes
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drumminf00l

Apr 23, 2005, 4:38 PM
wheres the customer at?
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:19 PM
15 Minutes on hold with them I go back to the customer to have him do what BOX said (remove battery with phone on) and tech hung up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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THE BOX

Apr 23, 2005, 4:20 PM
sorry man best bet is to just drop them with tech if your transfers can handle it
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speck

Apr 23, 2005, 4:22 PM
Yeah, take the hit on the transfer instead of Hold, Availibility, and AHT
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:22 PM
They can't and I can get in trouble for cold transferring to tech. ☚ī¸ (im a chick btw) He is going to the store. I feel bad stupid tech.
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THE BOX

Apr 23, 2005, 4:24 PM
are you on orange side ? i am and we dont get in trouble for cold trans to tech
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therooster

Apr 23, 2005, 4:30 PM
i am on orange side and we do get into trouble for cold trasnfer to tech.
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:30 PM
Im orange and we are in NO WAY allowed to cold transfer to tech. "Tech is not a customer facing department"
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 4:22 PM
ouch.

does this happen frequently when you call in?
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:24 PM
tech is usually a long hold time. unless it's one of those days where you need a break and can enjoy the few minute hold from the customers. then on days like that you get them right away. đŸ‘ŋ
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 4:26 PM
i wouldnt think that tech wait time would be 15 mins. isnt that too long? i understand if its during peak hours or a busy time, but saturday isnt a busy day with tech is it?
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:27 PM
depends on how many reps there are working. numbers are cut way down on saturdays, so if you have a day like youd o durin the week on a saturday...you're gonna get hit hard
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 4:29 PM
yea, thats true. do you get a lot of people calling on the weekend?
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:30 PM
it's different every weekend here. some days there is a 4 minute wait time between calls for us. other saturdays there's 30+ calls waiting.
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 4:35 PM
yea, i can understand that, becuase most carriers do not have problems during the weekend. (becuase most providers have trouble during peak hours during the day) but on the other hand, since most of the upgrades are done on the weekends, wouldnt it be best to have a lot or more than avg tech reps there?
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:39 PM
well a lot of problems you're going to have with upgrades are problems a transfer to tech won't solve.

one thing that would solve this is to get info to us CSRs faster when there is an outage. we have a program that tells us that, but if reps never enter trouble tickets us other reps will never know.

so if you have an system upgrade issue that effects 400+ users in one region...without a rep knowing that issue, that's gonna be at least 100 calls all going to tech with in a short period of time.
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 4:43 PM
oh i know that... i was just thinking that why would people have a lot of troubles on the weekend as opposed to the week. thats why i dont understand why they just dont have an equal amount of tech reps during the week and weekend to cover any potential problems? i know network tickers takes a long time, but a lot of RF people are actually out during the weekend too.
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cingularchris

Apr 23, 2005, 4:55 PM
guess it's there way of cutting back payroll on the slow days. who knows
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 4:57 PM
but in reality its not a slow day, if people are calling in with problems. no?

they will have to cut more people becuase of the merger. ☚ī¸
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ballderdash

Apr 23, 2005, 5:52 PM
The way they determine how many people to schedule is normally based on trends for the equivalent day to this one in recent years. They can't always go wtih the exact same date, since they are often on a different day of the week, so they usually go with the nearest date on the same day of the week, taking holidays and other things into account. if it is a day that tends to be very busy, they will try to get more reps on the phones just in case the trend holds up. if it is a day that historically is not very busy, then they will schedule fewer reps. On holidays, there are very few people that call in, so there are relatively few people taking calls.
back when I managed retail, I had to take the same things into account when scheduling my wo...
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TheNoGuy

Apr 23, 2005, 6:17 PM
My favorite tech quote is usually given before I've even provided my AWID.

"It's the phone."

This has led to my forgoing calling tech. for anything.
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ballderdash

Apr 23, 2005, 7:11 PM
Yeah I know what you mean. I had an escalation earlier, the rep had already called tech, and they notated the account, and both decided it was the device. at first, I accepted their explanation, and then within 2.5 seconds of speaking to the customer, I checked our issues logs, and it was right there on top, very first thing, it was a network issue that had a relatively simple workaround. I walked the customer through it and he was happy. it's no wonder I almost never call tech support.
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 10:25 PM
i see. thats quite interesting. so if you were cingular what would you do with RF techs during the week and weekend? (out of curiousity)
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ballderdash

Apr 24, 2005, 1:09 PM
well, provided there is not a particular long-standing issue (ie an issue that goes on for a month or longer) that we know is going to require more of them on the phones, I would probably stick to the method I outlined, and compare it to how many we can afford to have on the phone and also just simply how the schedules work out. after all, there are (for most of us) set shifts with set hours for a set number of days in a week, and I would want to do my best to avoid layoffs, even on a temporary basis. there are a lot of factors involved on this sort of scale, no doubt many that I haven't even considered.
let's just say I'm glad I don't have that job. 😉
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nextel18

Apr 25, 2005, 4:17 AM
yea, good points all around.
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:38 PM
Just to let you know, I don't plan on replying to you after this.

No I dont usually have that problem on any day. The longest I had to wait for tech was 3 minutes since ive been orange and that was only what they said on the ivr. I never really had to wait that long. The weather is bad here it started snowing again in a few states so people are inside and doing things like calling their cell phone companies.
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drumminf00l

Apr 23, 2005, 4:41 PM
Hey Shayby, wheres the customer at thats having problems?
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drumminf00l

Apr 23, 2005, 4:41 PM
and when did they activate their phone?
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:43 PM
Give me a sec I closed the account out I will let you know.
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:48 PM
Started with us in November and is from Penn near Pitts
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drumminf00l

Apr 23, 2005, 4:49 PM
hmmm, never mind, thought maybe she had activated recently, b/c we've been having problems in NE with recent activations popping up with that message....sorry couldnt help out more ☚ī¸
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Shayby

Apr 23, 2005, 4:50 PM
Yeah I know I remember those problems. Its ok he is going to the store I think the PUK code came up at some point but im not sure. I can imagine why the sim card would be damaged if not
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nextel18

Apr 23, 2005, 4:42 PM
"Just to let you know, I don't plan on replying to you after this."

of course not. what else is new. i am askign questions and you are being defensive.
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