Heck yeah!!! 3x more fiber to cell sites and $18-$19bln on 3G network this year! ! !
This is the sort of stuff I like to read! 3x more fiber to cell sites. Hopefully 7.2 will be more of a reality rather than a myth before the end of this year! And ATT is spending between $18-$19 billion on the 3G network this year. Nice to know they are actually doing something with all this data revenue!
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Yep, very cool. 😎
I read an article that one of the reasons Apple stuck with ATT for the iPad was there is only a few more years usefulness of CDMA (VZW). And LTE is backwards compatible with GSM, hence the future of wireless data. Which Apple is all about.
I read an article that one of the reasons Apple stuck with ATT for the iPad was there is only a few more years usefulness of CDMA (VZW). And LTE is backwards compatible with GSM, hence the future of wireless data. Which Apple is all about.
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Spending all that money in a 3G network when 4G could be deployed instead.
Oh that's right, can't deploy 4G because the cost is too expensive to do everything neccessary.
Oh that's right, can't deploy 4G because the cost is too expensive to do everything neccessary.
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So tell me this. Technology aside, would you prefer to be in Verizon's position with the amount of 3G they have or AT&T's position with the amount they have?
Based on current conditions, technology not being a factor.
Based on current conditions, technology not being a factor.
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The question is about whose 3G shoes you would rather be in, Verizon's or AT&T's.
Given the fact that AT&T has more bandwidth in almost every market and a wider 3G channel I think AT&T's. If Verizon's network had the data usage AT&T's has it would become very fragile because of a lack of bandwidth and channel space.
LTE development: Since LTE is backward compatible with UMTS it is possible to shift data sessions from 4G to 3G on AT&T quite easily but Verizon would have a "hard handoff" back to 3G. Unless of course they reworked their entire network to UMTS.
While Verizon has more 3G coverage it is a network that while being fantastic in its efficiencies needs more bandwidth and a wider channel to handle the amount of traffic AT&T handle...
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Given the fact that AT&T has more bandwidth in almost every market and a wider 3G channel I think AT&T's. If Verizon's network had the data usage AT&T's has it would become very fragile because of a lack of bandwidth and channel space.
LTE development: Since LTE is backward compatible with UMTS it is possible to shift data sessions from 4G to 3G on AT&T quite easily but Verizon would have a "hard handoff" back to 3G. Unless of course they reworked their entire network to UMTS.
While Verizon has more 3G coverage it is a network that while being fantastic in its efficiencies needs more bandwidth and a wider channel to handle the amount of traffic AT&T handle...
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SPCSVZWJeff said:
The question is about whose 3G shoes you would rather be in, Verizon's or AT&T's.
Given the fact that AT&T has more bandwidth in almost every market and a wider 3G channel I think AT&T's.
If you look forward even 12 to 18 months from now and include the 700 MHz bands which will be fully operational for over 100 million people by this time next year, VZW comes out ahead by a landslide in quantity AND quality of spectrum in all but a few isolated areas.
It's also important to keep the practice of cell division and redistricting in play. A network with a smaller spectrum allotment can easily outperform (by capacity) a carrier with a larger spectrum footprint by simply make the cell sizes ...
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Personally I can't wait til the day when both upload and download speeds are so rediculously blazing fast that it's no longer even a talking point on PS anymore.
The big ? is are we really only 24 months away from those blazing fast speeds.
And just to make myself clear by "blazing fast" I am speaking of speeds -well beyond- the
8-12mbps that Verizon said it is launching LTE at.
The big ? is are we really only 24 months away from those blazing fast speeds.
And just to make myself clear by "blazing fast" I am speaking of speeds -well beyond- the
8-12mbps that Verizon said it is launching LTE at.
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We are averaging 8mbps on Clear's WIMAX network with occasional bursts above 15mbps.
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Your response was excellent. I particularly enjoyed the answer to back-wards compatibility on two different frequencies. Great job!
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You make some great points about cell sectorizing and channel spacing, however the 700MHZ band will be allocated to LTE from my understanding.
GSM and UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA are radically different in that GSM is a time divided system and UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA are all code division systems. (CDMA air interface) While the majority of AT&T's geographical network is GSM/EDGE the majority of subscribers are covered by 3G. This is a huge difference in network usage.
The raw fact of current bandwidth still has AT&T with much more than Verizon. In my market AT&T has 60MHZ while Verizon only has 30MHZ.
Verizon could expand capacity drastically by adding more sectors to each tower but so could AT&T. The reality is that there is a 2:1 advantage in this market...
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GSM and UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA are radically different in that GSM is a time divided system and UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA are all code division systems. (CDMA air interface) While the majority of AT&T's geographical network is GSM/EDGE the majority of subscribers are covered by 3G. This is a huge difference in network usage.
The raw fact of current bandwidth still has AT&T with much more than Verizon. In my market AT&T has 60MHZ while Verizon only has 30MHZ.
Verizon could expand capacity drastically by adding more sectors to each tower but so could AT&T. The reality is that there is a 2:1 advantage in this market...
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You must live in urban Texas if AT&T has that much more spectrum the VZW. (j/k 🤠) It's not true in as many places as you lead on that it is. GSM 3G is a superior technology to CDMA 3G because of it's flexibility to handle both voice and data traffic. You'll never hear me argue against that point. This benefit also allows 3G GSM networks to appear to work better then comparable CDMA layouts on a MHz-per-MHz basis.
Verizon has to calculate (guess) how much spectrum to devote to the voice network and how much spectrum to dedicate to the data network in every market. AT&T doesn't have to worry about that. They could upgrade their entire network and shift all of their spectrum to 3G encoding and the only complication would be pro...
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Verizon has to calculate (guess) how much spectrum to devote to the voice network and how much spectrum to dedicate to the data network in every market. AT&T doesn't have to worry about that. They could upgrade their entire network and shift all of their spectrum to 3G encoding and the only complication would be pro...
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