Cingular's "Tax and Surcharge" more than TWICE of Tmobile's
I just got my bill from Cingular after switching from Tmobile and I was quite surprised to see Cingular add a full $13 for "Tax and Surcharge" on my monthly bill!
TMobile only charged me $5.40 for the same items.
Both Cingular and Tmobile charged me $1.20 in "Federal Excise Tax ($1.20)", but only Cingular chaged "State & Local Tax ($4.40) - California".
Also TMobile's 911 fee was 27 cents while Cingular tacked a FULL $3.22!!! Man I need to make some 911 calls if I'm going to fork out so much for the service ;)
Can anyone enlighten me why Cingular's surcharge is more than TWICE of TMobiles???
Looks like highway robbery to me.
TMobile only charged me $5.40 for the same items.
Both Cingular and Tmobile charged me $1.20 in "Federal Excise Tax ($1.20)", but only Cingular chaged "State & Local Tax ($4.40) - California".
Also TMobile's 911 fee was 27 cents while Cingular tacked a FULL $3.22!!! Man I need to make some 911 calls if I'm going to fork out so much for the service ;)
Can anyone enlighten me why Cingular's surcharge is more than TWICE of TMobiles???
Looks like highway robbery to me.
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Dont forget that your first bill is probably for over a month and a half, and dont forget to add you activation fees as well
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I'm not talking about the "first bill".. I'm talking about the statement I received that says "monthly bill".. I KNOW about the first bill and stuff...
In the welcome kit, there is two columns.. First Month and Monthly... My first month came up to $105 (which I'm not complaining)... its the monthly column that shows a surcharge of $13.
Lets put it this way, anyone else on Cingular in CA gets a monthly $13 surcharge on a plan for $39.99??
In the welcome kit, there is two columns.. First Month and Monthly... My first month came up to $105 (which I'm not complaining)... its the monthly column that shows a surcharge of $13.
Lets put it this way, anyone else on Cingular in CA gets a monthly $13 surcharge on a plan for $39.99??
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So have you gotten your first bill or just the welcome kit? The bill estimater may not be accurate.
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OK.. its the Bill Estimator... I guess I'll wait until the bill actually arrives before complaining 🙂
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Eh, it may still be crappy. Even the employees are paying them though. *points at himself* Hope it's not as bad as you're expecting though.
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T-Mobile does not own the infrastructure so they are exempt from state and local taxes. Remember they were in an infrastructure sharing agreement. You can't be taxed on something that is not yours.
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AtTheMet...
A bit confused. Are you saying that T-Mobile in an MVNO-operator like Virgin Mobile? I thought that T-Mobile did own their own infrastructure, like in N.Y., and other part's of the U.S, etc. And aren't they in the process of purchasing Cingular's network in CA? Sorry...Please clarify. 🤭
Chris 😕
A bit confused. Are you saying that T-Mobile in an MVNO-operator like Virgin Mobile? I thought that T-Mobile did own their own infrastructure, like in N.Y., and other part's of the U.S, etc. And aren't they in the process of purchasing Cingular's network in CA? Sorry...Please clarify. 🤭
Chris 😕
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CRCinOklnd said:
AtTheMet...
A bit confused. Are you saying that T-Mobile in an MVNO-operator like Virgin Mobile? I thought that T-Mobile did own their own infrastructure, like in N.Y., and other part's of the U.S, etc. And aren't they in the process of purchasing Cingular's network in CA? Sorry...Please clarify. 🤭
Chris 😕
They are in the process of purchasing the infrastructure but as of now the CA network they use is really Cingular's and pre-merger the network in NY was T-Mobile. That is the JV that they entered into three years ago. That are not an MVNO at all beace an MVNO does not own any spectrum or network infrastructure at all. T-Mobile is an actual carrier they just didn't have thei...
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Let's just say that Cingular has a hell of alot more subscribers than T-mobile. With all their towers, networks cell sites, etc.. it costs more to provide us with great signal quality and sound. think about it
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comicalhazard said:That's utterly stupid.
Let's just say that Cingular has a hell of alot more subscribers than T-mobile. With all their towers, networks cell sites, etc.. it costs more to provide us with great signal quality and sound. think about it
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coldsteel said:
Agreed; AtTheMet's post explained it quite nicely.
ColdSteel, I must say that you are one of the most cordial persons on this forum. Thank you.
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When people are being intelligent, yes. Once stupidity rears its head, I tend to lock-and-load with the best of 'em. 😎
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AtTheMet said:While I, on the other hand, tend to be an utter bastard at times.coldsteel said:
Agreed; AtTheMet's post explained it quite nicely.
ColdSteel, I must say that you are one of the most cordial persons on this forum. Thank you.
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coldsteel said:Aw, thanks Steel. You're now on my "Nice" list.
Naw, definately seen worse, MD. 😁
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wow......lol...... it sure is robbery if you ask me...lol.Do you not like paying taxes, perhaps you should speak with you county municipal/tax jurisdiction people and ask them if it robbery thats what i would do..then again thats just me i would do the research before posting such claims. 🙂
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You just don't get it do you?
I did not move, I just changed providers...so for whatever reason $39.99 is on Cingular is NOT $39.99 on TMobile.
I have no problems paying taxes, but IF Cingular charges twice more for taxes than Tmobile for services offered in the SAME location... something is wrong.
Again, it could just be an error in the "welcome kit".. so I'll refrain from posting until I get the real bill.
I did not move, I just changed providers...so for whatever reason $39.99 is on Cingular is NOT $39.99 on TMobile.
I have no problems paying taxes, but IF Cingular charges twice more for taxes than Tmobile for services offered in the SAME location... something is wrong.
Again, it could just be an error in the "welcome kit".. so I'll refrain from posting until I get the real bill.
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Lets just keep in mind that Cingular does not have ANY say in what the tax rates will be. Taxes are charged by the government, and companies such as Cingular do not get a hand in any of that tax money.
Most of the taxes and surcharges are a percentage based of the total amount charged, and some of the fees are a percentage of your useage.
It always interests me when a customer calls in to cancel his/her account b/c they believe the government will charge them less taxes with a different carrier.
Most of the taxes and surcharges are a percentage based of the total amount charged, and some of the fees are a percentage of your useage.
It always interests me when a customer calls in to cancel his/her account b/c they believe the government will charge them less taxes with a different carrier.
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Not to start a flaming war... but indeed IF Tmobile somehow is able to charge less for Tax, wouldn't it be a legitimate reason to switch??
It is Cingular's problem if somehow they have to charge more for tax and they have to compensate either by charging less for their plans or win over their customers by better coverage (which IMHO they have).
It is Cingular's problem if somehow they have to charge more for tax and they have to compensate either by charging less for their plans or win over their customers by better coverage (which IMHO they have).
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Also bear in mind that "tax and surcharge" is not the same as "tax." TMobile will charge a different amount for regulatory programs fees from other carriers, and there is space in the "surcharge" area for fees which are charged by and for the carrier that have nothing to do with taxes. I would definitely wait for the bill to confirm, though, as the estimator isn't necessarily accurate--and some CA cities charge some horrendously high fees for 911 access, it's kinda scary...
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MAny people don't make the distinction between "taxes" and "fees" or "surcharges."
Taxes are assessed by the government, whether at a national, state or local level. In thoery, these shouldn't change when applied n the same area for the same reasons (i.e.- the taxes on a 39.99 plan with one carrier should be the same as those with another carrier).
Fees and Surcharges are generally applied by the provider and can vary widely, even if for the same reasons. For example, different carries have different amounts charged for 911 compatibility or Local Number Portability. They aren't generally required by the government, but are often used to help defer the cost of maintaining certain required standards.
Furthermore, did you have any a...
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Taxes are assessed by the government, whether at a national, state or local level. In thoery, these shouldn't change when applied n the same area for the same reasons (i.e.- the taxes on a 39.99 plan with one carrier should be the same as those with another carrier).
Fees and Surcharges are generally applied by the provider and can vary widely, even if for the same reasons. For example, different carries have different amounts charged for 911 compatibility or Local Number Portability. They aren't generally required by the government, but are often used to help defer the cost of maintaining certain required standards.
Furthermore, did you have any a...
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If you move to cuba you would not ever have to worry about taxes,surcharges,fees... ya commy
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