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VZW New Rate Plans.... Does Cingular have a good response??

Mendel

Jan 17, 2005, 2:48 PM
I have a friend who was always happy with Verizon, and 3 weeks ago made the switch to Cingular mainly b/c of Cingular's lower priced family plans.... and now that he heard that Verizon has more or less the same prices, (plus he could have a 5th line) he is thinking of going back to Verizon....
now if he knew for sure that Cingular would be coming out with something new, he would stay with Cingular..... so I really need help in keeping him as a customer....

[also my brother who has a family plan now with Verizon, with a plan expiring in 4 months, and was thinking at that point of switching to Cingular, is now thinking of renewing his Verizon contract, (to get the newer pricing) unless again he knew that Cingular had something even better ...
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lordrevan05

Jan 17, 2005, 3:04 PM
😒 I work for CINGULAR and just saw the new rateplans offered by VZW, and once again we have no new plans to even compete. Instead of these useless e-mails they keep sending us about whose in charge of what with the BIGDEAL merger they should give us some good news for our customers with competitive rateplans!! 😑
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jaymz306

Jan 17, 2005, 3:59 PM
thats funny ... i'm sick of them too.
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CingularRep01

Jan 17, 2005, 4:10 PM
Yup...
I must admit they havent sent us a thing about any new rate plans. They just keep telling us to promote rollover like it's a cure-all tonic to fix everybody's problems. A 5-line would deffinatley be a nice improvement. πŸ˜•
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wally77

Jan 19, 2005, 12:45 PM
Yeah, kinda like our past holiday promotion 🀣 WHAT HOLIDAY PROMOTION! 🀣
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lordrevan05

Jan 17, 2005, 5:02 PM
πŸ‘Ώ Just got another one!!!!
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2005, 3:21 PM
The new Verizon rate plans are nothing more than an advertising scam. They changed their rate plans to make a big hub-ub about them to get people's attention. Cingular's prices squash Verizon's.

Take for example a $59.99 plan.

Extra lines are $9.99 for both Cingular and Verizon, BUT Cingular's plan includes 850 minutes with rollover and free roaming. Verizon's plan only includes 500 minutes, and free roaming is not included. Everything else like unlimited N&W and unlimited M2M are the same on both plans.

So really Verizon just jacked up the prices of all their plans and lowered the prices of extra lines. Nothing special. Yesterday Verizon offered a $49.99 plan that included 500 minutes and now that same plan is $59.99. Heh, i...
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Sith_apprentice

Jan 17, 2005, 3:36 PM
THe verizon plan is now 900 minutes, unlimited m2m, n$w.

America's Choicesm
Make calls across our national network.

Take your minutes anywhere on the America’s Choice network. Get Unlimited IN Calling.

Family SharePlans Available America's Choice Map
National Enhanced Services Map Domestic roaming: $0.69/minute $59.99
900 Minutes
Unlimited IN Calling PLUS Unlimited Night & Weekend Minutes


That is copied directly from the vzw site. As far as cingular is concerned, there is no need to change their plans, because they still offer the nights at 7p and the rollover. The T-mobile price plans though, aside from family plans, blow away everyone else. Downside being limited coverage.
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Sith_apprentice

Jan 17, 2005, 3:39 PM
interesting, i just accessed the site from a different method (vzw activation system) and the family plan on their site isnt listed.... Seems like verizon is going to set family plans, like T-mobile, rather than just add on lines like they had previously. I apologize for the confusion my post caused.
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ralph_on_me

Jan 17, 2005, 3:47 PM
The plans I've seen are different than what you mentioned, however they may very well be market specific. Verizon offers 500 minutes at $59.99 for the first TWO lines. Cingular compares with 450 Rollover minutes for $59.98 for two lines.

The big differences are Cingular's no roaming charges and Rollover minutes. Their prices are finally able to compete with Cingular, but their services aren't.

Again, these are the prices in the Dallas market. If there is an area where Verizon offers 900 daytime minutes for two phones, I would expect Cingular to make a market specific competitive adjustment.
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CingularRep01

Jan 17, 2005, 4:18 PM
πŸ˜‰ Nope... no different in my market either(Northeast). The verizon general slogan is "unlimited calls to other verizon customers within the america's choice coverage area"... Cingular's is unlimited calls to any Cingular OR AT&T wireless customer ANYWHERE(46 million of them... the most). As long as you can get a signal... you can make a call for free with absalutley no-roaming OR long-distance charges anywhere in the US, Virgin Islands, or Puerto Rico. But the advantage of Rollover is what no other company will ever even attempt.
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lordrevan05

Jan 17, 2005, 4:27 PM
Rollover is cool for some customers but if they can keep an extra $30.00 to $45.00 in their pockets for more minutes they'll jump at the chance. Now if we offered the AT&T plans with rollover (we are the same company right)who could argue against that? We are sellin 450R/UM2M/UN&W for $39.99? Are you kidding me?! Every one is practically giving away 800 to 1000+ mins for $39.99!! πŸ‘Ώ
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Vox Dei

Jan 17, 2005, 5:17 PM
WHO!!!??? Not Verizon, Not sprint, Not nextel...Who is giving that many minutes away? Sprint is the only one that is close and they are 1000 for $45.00 and thats only a local plan...
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Aleq

Jan 17, 2005, 5:27 PM
TMobile, that's who! 1000 Whenever minutes, unlimited nights and weekends, nationwide, 45.99 per month. 39.99/month if you don't want the unlimited nights. One year contract.
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ezekiel198

Jan 20, 2005, 2:19 PM
Yes, but when will people realize that it's not ALL ABOUT MINUTES. It's about COVERAGE. COVERAGE is the NUMBER 1 issue people would like to see in their phones. Not bluetooth, not 3d motion capabilities....COVERAGE. Cingular obliterates T-Mobile.

Why is this so hard for people to realize? WHO ARE YOU GOING TO TALK TO IF YOU HAVE NO SERVICE??

also, isnt t-mobile 1900 only?
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RUFF1415

Jan 17, 2005, 4:36 PM
Uh, where are you getting 900 minutes?

Everyone interested, go here, enter your zipcode (or use mine: 15601), and see for yourself.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller? ... »

It clearly states that the $59.99 plan includes 500 anytime minutes. And, roaming is still $.69 per minute. Not free.

You've basically restated what I said with the addition of a few very obvious errors.
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Mendel

Jan 17, 2005, 5:25 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Uh, where are you getting 900 minutes?

Everyone interested, go here, enter your zipcode (or use mine: 15601), and see for yourself.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller? ... »

It clearly states that the $59.99 plan includes 500 anytime minutes. And, roaming is still $.69 per minute. Not free.

You've basically restated what I said with the addition of a few very obvious errors.


that is for a family plan which includes 2 lines, (but a single line plan for $59.99 comes with 900 minutes...)
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Vox Dei

Jan 17, 2005, 6:05 PM
But we are talking about Family plans...The difference is only 50 minutes. Most people are not useign exacly their rait plan. If you only use 800 minutes on your first month then on your second month you have 900. If again you only use 800 then you have 1000. If on the odd chance you use 899 minutes on your first month then you are SOL πŸ˜›. You have to decide how you use the phone.
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coldsteel

Jan 17, 2005, 5:38 PM
Hm. Only plan they come close to Cingular is that 6000 minute plan, and their's is cheaper by only $10.
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Mendel

Jan 17, 2005, 5:22 PM
RUFF1415 said:
The new Verizon rate plans are nothing more than an advertising scam. They changed their rate plans to make a big hub-ub about them to get people's attention. Cingular's prices squash Verizon's.

Take for example a $59.99 plan.

Extra lines are $9.99 for both Cingular and Verizon, BUT Cingular's plan includes 850 minutes with rollover and free roaming. Verizon's plan only includes 500 minutes, and free roaming is not included. Everything else like unlimited N&W and unlimited M2M are the same on both plans.

So really Verizon just jacked up the prices of all their plans and lowered the prices of extra lines. Nothing special. Yesterday Verizon offered a $49.99 plan that included 500 minutes and no
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coldsteel

Jan 17, 2005, 5:39 PM
OK, so for $49, you get 500 minutes with Verizon, with roaming. Cingular has 600 minutes for that same price, and NO roaming.
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BigMacDoodle

Jan 18, 2005, 1:34 PM
Its not like you will roam (with charges) with Verizon in the middle of the city. You roam when you are way way out in the middle of nowhere. I have never seen a roaming charge on my bill. I also sell wireless and have NEVER had any Verizon customer come up to me and say they got slammed with roaming charges. My motto will always be, roaming is better than no coverage.
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woodelehop

Jan 18, 2005, 8:38 PM
it depends where you are i guess because i port at least 10 verizon per week to cingular for that reason. they roam everywhere except their store i think where i am. I DO agree that roaming is better than no coverage though.
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digitmasher

Jan 17, 2005, 7:06 PM
I would certainly like to see us come out with an unlimited MEdia package, Spirnt offers unlimited vision, text and multimedia for around $20. The customers I have dealt with can't really see shelling out an exta 19.99 to get unlimited data and then just 1500 text and 200 MMS. I for one burn through text and MMS like a mad man, and I know quite a few friends who do so as well.
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scapegoat

Jan 18, 2005, 11:12 AM
digitmasher said:
I would certainly like to see us come out with an unlimited MEdia package, Spirnt offers unlimited vision, text and multimedia for around $20. The customers I have dealt with can't really see shelling out an exta 19.99 to get unlimited data and then just 1500 text and 200 MMS. I for one burn through text and MMS like a mad man, and I know quite a few friends who do so as well.


I here ya man! i would love the same thhing
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jinx7676

Jan 17, 2005, 6:03 PM
mid-February is the tentative next major change..things are already in progress. one thing that is already out there is unlimited MMS for $4.99 for the rest of the year.
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Albie

Jan 18, 2005, 12:40 PM
Verizon's new plans, while better deals for existing Verizon customers are still not that great compared to Cingular's except on the low end plan where you get 50 more minutes for the same price. What Verizon has done is to create new minute/price point combinations that make it more difficult to compare plans. When you compare the cost per minute for the price of two lines you will find that Cingular is still a better bargain once you get above the lowest price plan. At the 79.99 price point you pay $10 for 150 extra minutes (79.99 for 1000 min vs 69.98 for 850 min)but for another $10 (89.9😎 Cingular gives you an extra 250 min (1250 min vs 1000). It then goes on with Cingular giving you more for each price increment until you get to the...
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zaakir

Jan 18, 2005, 2:17 PM
as i said b4 cingular doesnt want to compete.
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