so, a priest walks into our store...
hey it could be worse, the Church used to own whole estates!
ralph_on_me said:
The money you drop in the collection plate every Sunday just bought him an iPhone, that's what's wrong with it. It's also wrong that they can buy LUXURIES like that and not pay taxes on them.
The iPhone is hardly a "luxury" 🤣 🤣 🤣
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$40 a month and a free phone is not a luxury.
ralph_on_me said:
You're a perfect example of the state of society, and you make me want to vomit.
Such is my reaction to your "mullet"
ralph_on_me said:
The money you drop in the collection plate every Sunday just bought him an iPhone, that's what's wrong with it. It's also wrong that they can buy LUXURIES like that and not pay taxes on them.
Man, get a life! Priests work 24/7, unlike YOU who can go home at the end of your workday and not be bothered by customers, and enjoy yourself.
BTW, you are completely WRONG, as usual, about priests not paying taxes. The church pays their income taxes for them. For someone who supposedly spent two years in seminary, you know very little about religion.
People who devote their life to serving God should not be paid any less money than anyone else, nor should they be deprived of "luxuries" that ...
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keep telling yourself that Jr. Being a pastor is the cushiest job in the world. They're a salesman just like any other, except they DON'T pay income tax.
This really doesn't belong in this forum, but you should go to a budget meeting for your church and see just who is making what. You should also ask what allowances they're given so you can see what they actually have to pay for.
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keep telling yourself that Jr. Being a pastor is the cushiest job in the world. They're a salesman just like any other, except they DON'T pay income tax.
This really doesn't belong in this forum, but you should go to a budget meeting for your church and see just who is making what. You should also ask what allowances they're given so you can see what they actually have to pay for.
Ralph appears to be a very bitter person.
Get a real job Ralph you need far more then yout ATT job can deliver for you. Especially if you consider the cell phone a luxury item and clergy unworthy stewards of such.
ralph_on_me said:
Geeze Joe, thanks for the advice. I think you're right. I should stop working for att. Oh wait, I don't work for att. I guess I've got that done. I should consider a cell phone necessary. In fact, if I have to choose between rent and my cell phone bill, I'll pay my cell phone. It will keep me dry and well fed. I'll also do better to trust the church. It was right to persecute Africans. Killing people of other religions is okay too. Mmm, blind faith.
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Apparantly you did not make it as such.
I understand the bitterness now,
ralph_on_me said:
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You don't even know what an agent is??
Splitting (mullet) hairs are we. Your income comes from ATT through an independent source.
I don't see much difference between Cor stores and Agents representing the Cor.
If you're really gonna split hairs my income actually comes from a payroll provider that my company pays.
I'm not even allowed to wear an att shirt!
AvgJoe said:
I don't see much difference between Cor stores and Agents representing the Cor.
And further proving my point that you are a class 1 asshole.
ralph_on_me said:
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keep telling yourself that Jr. Being a pastor is the cushiest job in the world. They're a salesman just like any other, except they DON'T pay income tax.
This really doesn't belong in this forum, but you should go to a budget meeting for your church and see just who is making what. You should also ask what allowances they're given so you can see what they actually have to pay for.
Man, you gotta be kiddin', right? You have absolutely NO idea what a Pastor does in any given week, none whatsoever.
Aside from the fact they risk their health and well being exposing themselves repeatedly to people who are sick, their jobs are never done. How would you like to be sound asleep...
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WM6user said:
Not pointed at Ralph, but at others: Most non-Christians have the wrong view of Christianity.
Very true. Many people believe that ministers and even regular Christians should be poor and have nothing. Poverty is NOT ever the will of God for anyone, saint or sinner.
We will never be able to help the poor if we're all poor ourselves. Somebody has to have money in order to give to those who are less fortunate.
Christian organizations send money and relief worldwide. I get so sick and tired of hearing people say we don't ever help anyone, especially when most of the folks saying that don't help them, either. Where's their compassion? 🤨
ralph_on_me said:
Actually christians are typically more wealthy than their counterparts. Of course, Jews have even more money than them.
Really...LOL go down Forbes 400 and make that claim.
robtheman said:
Wow. I wonder how priests did their job in the 1700s.
How did ANYBODY do their jobs in the 1700s??? Why should any profession be excluded when it comes to the wonders of modern technology?
robtheman said:
Yeah! Why should sports players be banned from using performance enhancers? It's just using the available technology!
Congratulations! You win for poorest analogy of the year award! 😉
LilShorty said:robtheman said:
Wow. I wonder how priests did their job in the 1700s.
How did ANYBODY do their jobs in the 1700s??? Why should any profession be excluded when it comes to the wonders of modern technology?
What is so ridiculous about all of this is the fact these folks on here arguing against ministers having cellphones would gladly sell them one any day of the week. If they really believed that it was wrong for them to do that, they would refuse to do so. Just proves how hypocritical they are in what they're saying!
robtheman said:
You're making assumptions here, jr.
True, but my assumptions are based on the reality of human nature.
Don't we all make assumptions?
ralph_on_me said:
I can't refuse a customer, but I hate selling phones to churches and ministers. The tax exemption bugs the crap out of me, but I can't refuse to do my job and not process it for them. Aside from that, they're typically difficult customers because they want everything for free.
Sure you can. It's called "I'm refusing to sell this to you on moral grounds". Perfectly legal, and your employer MUST honor that, or get in trouble.
Tax exemptions are also perfectly legal. The fact that you dislike them just shows you have no concept of why such laws exist in the first place. Tax exemptions exist because the federal government shouldn't have the right to tax someone for a commodity that is be...
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Tax exemptions are legal, but as a Christin you should follow the teachings of Jesus and take a stand against them.
Our wealthy and powerful nation loses money every year. Our Dollar value keeps declining year by year. The choices we make are so retarded that CANADA has caught up in the value of their dollar. That hasn't happened in 40 years.
Also, I can refuse service, but my employer can also refuse to pay me. That's how that works, and you're wrong that my company can't fire me for it. This isn't a right to work state.
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I do like paying taxes. I like contributing to my community and knowing I'm helping improve it and also contributing to the welfare of disadvantaged individuals. You tithe, I pay taxes.
Tax exemptions are legal, but as a Christin you should follow the teachings of Jesus and take a stand against them.
Our wealthy and powerful nation loses money every year. Our Dollar value keeps declining year by year. The choices we make are so retarded that CANADA has caught up in the value of their dollar. That hasn't happened in 40 years.
Also, I can refuse service, but my employer can also refuse to pay me. That's how that works, and you're wrong that my company can't fire me for it. This isn't a righ
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Did you just say Canada has poor health care? Wowee...
You're right though, give the government what they require. However, churches were required to pay taxes until they whined and got exempted. It was a smart move just to change the laws so they could still claim a moral high ground.
ralph_on_me said:
Actually they are going to Canada now because we're kicking them out. You're not up on current events. Also, why would your first choice be Canada when Texas is a whooole lot closer?
Did you just say Canada has poor health care? Wowee...
You're right though, give the government what they require. However, churches were required to pay taxes until they whined and got exempted. It was a smart move just to change the laws so they could still claim a moral high ground.
Tax exemption for churches actually dates back to Revolutionary War times. The founding fathers really hated taxes, and most of the colonies at that time had tax-exempt status for religious institutions. It wasn't un...
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ralph_on_me said:...
I do like paying taxes. I like contributing to my community and knowing I'm helping improve it and also contributing to the welfare of disadvantaged individuals. You tithe, I pay taxes.
Tax exemptions are legal, but as a Christin you should follow the teachings of Jesus and take a stand against them.
Our wealthy and powerful nation loses money every year. Our Dollar value keeps declining year by year. The choices we make are so retarded that CANADA has caught up in the value of their dollar. That hasn't happened in 40 years.
Also, I can refuse service, but my employer can also refuse to pay me. That's how that works, and you're wrong that my company can't fire me for it. This isn't a righ
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ralph_on_me said:
Oh god, learn to read Joe. I said take a stand against tax exemptions.
Show me....
ralph_on_me said:
Tax exemptions are legal, but as a Christin you should follow the teachings of Jesus and take a stand against them.
I even left in my misspelling of the word Christian.
Take a stand against tax exemptions! Are you sure you're not below average?
ralph_on_me said:ralph_on_me said:
Tax exemptions are legal, but as a Christin you should follow the teachings of Jesus and take a stand against them.
I even left in my misspelling of the word Christian.
Take a stand against tax exemptions! Are you sure you're not below average?
Show me the verse.....
I personally don't mind tax exemptions. If Jesus did show me where He said so,
ralph_on_me said:
Jr already alluded to it.
Matthew 22:2.
Msatthew 22:2 "2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, "
Yeah I see it now..........LOL
Try Again.....on your own this time
ralph_on_me said:
You're right, I forgot a 1. 22:21 Read a few verses before that to see how it relates to taxes.
I thought you were referring to that passage...It has nothing to do with Jesus frowning on exemptions lol
Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; not, "Give it him’’ (as they expressed it, ), but, "Render it; Return,’’ or "Restore it; if Caesar fill the purses, let Caesar command them. Render to all their due, and particularly tribute to whom tribute is due.’’ Now by this answer He says only its the governments money. They print it. It belongs to them, Render to them what is ineed their Render to God what is His....Ie one's soul.
Sho...
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He's talking about paying taxes. He said pay your taxes. Tax exemptions are people not paying taxes.
ralph_on_me said:
omg below joe, you make me wanna bash my head into a pole.
He's talking about paying taxes. He said pay your taxes. Tax exemptions are people not paying taxes.
This what you said:
ralph_on_me said:
Tax exemptions are legal, but as a Christin you should follow the teachings of Jesus and take a stand against them.
Jesus never took a stand AGAINST paying taxes as you claimed.Nor did He take a stand against Exemptions.
Go find that pole.
AvgJoe said:ralph_on_me said:
omg below joe, you make me wanna bash my head into a pole.
He's talking about paying taxes. He said pay your taxes. Tax exemptions are people not paying taxes.
This what you said:
ralph_on_me said:
Tax exemptions are legal, but as a Christin you should follow the teachings of Jesus and take a stand against them.
Jesus never took a stand AGAINST paying taxes as you claimed.Nor did He take a stand against Exemptions.
Go find that pole.
WTH man?
AvgJoe said:
Go find that pole.
careful ralph, he may try and give you a dollar!
plmassey said:
PS God is into everythng we do. DUHH!
and he created you, so he obviously has a sense of humor :-)
Wireless Buddy said:
Who said anything about a smartphone? The iPhone isn't a smartphone.
Neither are those who paid $600 for it.
Wireless Buddy said:
So you're saying those people who paid $600 are not smartphones? I'd hope not! 🤣 I know I don't want to be a smartphone!
And you just proved my point. Go figure.
plmassey said:
Is a priest not sopposed to have a cell phne just because he is a priest? All of us have cell phones, why shouldn't he? Get a life. PS God is into everythng we do. DUHH!
Except the Iphone.
mmcnier said:
And here I was preparing for a funny priest joke!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
that's why i posted it like that... a play on how jokes start out and the irony of a priest having one of the most hyped pieces of electronic equipment to release in the past 5 years...