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Sprint's 1Q Results Are Here

SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 11:22 AM
http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060426/telecoms_sprint_earns ... »

Looks like they didn't do so well. I guess Cellenator is gonna have himself a cry. 😕
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brentgodwin

Apr 26, 2006, 11:30 AM
System,

Can you post the numbers for us that are behind firewalls???


Thanks!!
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SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 11:31 AM
brentgodwin said:
System,

Can you post the numbers for us that are behind firewalls???


Thanks!!

Reuters
Sprint quarterly profit falls on merger costs
Wednesday April 26, 11:47 am ET
By Sinead Carew


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Sprint Nextel Corp. (NYSE:S - News), the No. 3 U.S. wireless service, posted worse-than-expected quarterly results on Wednesday, hurt by merger expenses and disappointing subscriber growth.
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The company's shares fell 4 percent on investor disappointment with its profit margins and the high proportion of lower-paying customers it added, analysts said.

Sprint, which bought Nextel Communications in August, said net income fell 11 percent to $417 million, ...
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Cellenator

Apr 26, 2006, 11:31 AM
Damn Shock you're getting more pathetic by the day. Why on earth would you post this in the verizon forum? just to call me out very sad man.
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SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 11:37 AM
Haha, wave da meat an' the troll comes a' runnin'. You is too funny, Cell. 😁

Wow, 'superior' Sprint sure ain't doin' so well. Why is that, Cell? Shouldn't they be 'ownzoring' everyone? lol 😎
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Cellenator

Apr 26, 2006, 11:40 AM
You need to read the Terms of Use of this site you are not suppose to be attacking other forum members.
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SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 11:41 AM
Who's attacking? All I did was ask a simple question. Boo hoo. 🙂
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Cellenator

Apr 26, 2006, 11:45 AM
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Where is the question in there?, you are attacking me in hopes of getting a rise out of me. You need to grow the hell up Shock.
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SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 11:57 AM
On da contrary, I thought it a very accurate statement given your propensity to come on to the VZW forum 24-7 hollerin' how awesome and unbeatable Sprint is. Sounds like you should take your own advice re: maturity. 🙂

And again, the question is, if Sprint is so gol dang wonderful, how come they're not doing awesome? Simple Q, take your time, I'll check back later.
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 12:00 PM
well they are doing well system..

compare prepaid, wholesale, arpu and lifetime revenue per user.. you will see sprint destroys verizon.

plus they are having problems with the brands and billing is seperate so there will be some problems..

verizon dreams to have what sprint has especially with those metrics i mentioned.
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barryefau

Apr 26, 2006, 7:53 PM
oh yes. the 2.1 churn, vzw would KILL for that
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SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 8:03 PM
barryefau said:
oh yes. the 2.1% churn, vzw would KILL for that

And the sarcasm meter just hit 11. 🙂
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 9:20 PM
yea... but wont kill arpu both data and voice...

also on the ev-do end either.
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barryefau

Apr 27, 2006, 6:18 PM
their ARPU is good yes..

ahh what ev-do end are you talking about?
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nextel18

Apr 27, 2006, 8:32 PM
verizon's arpu (both data and voice) are nothing like sprints'.

huh?

i am comparing verizon's broadband connect to sprint's powervision.
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barryefau

Apr 28, 2006, 12:31 AM
is there a comparison? vzw's ev-do is larger and stronger than sprints.
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2006, 5:14 AM
actually sprint's is larger on both covered pops and subscribers.. (especially with the first 90 or so days of launch)

verizon is too ashamed to tell us what they have.

sprint has more than 250k users.
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texaswireless

Apr 28, 2006, 12:32 PM
No more ebonics? When did this stop?
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SystemShock

Apr 28, 2006, 1:17 PM
texaswireless said:
No more ebonics? When did this stop?

I'd tell ya, but I'm prevented by not caring very much. 😎
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2006, 1:20 PM
TX is uptight about something....

you and then me. lol.

TX must be boring..

🤣
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texaswireless

Apr 28, 2006, 1:32 PM
Cool. Just was a little "shocked" when I saw it changed.
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 11:52 AM
system, i already posted this on the sprint forum, but sprint is doing well.
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SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 11:58 AM
nextel18 said:
system, i already posted this on the sprint forum, but sprint is doing well.

No slight intended next, but the analysts don't seem to agree:

"I simply don't see much in the way of good news overall," said Stifel Nicolaus analyst Chris King. "They're clearly losing significant market share to both Cingular and Verizon for postpaid retail subscribers."

Sprint Chief Financial Officer Paul Saleh said earnings fell short of Wall Street estimates because analysts expected savings from the merger to kick in sooner than was the case.

Sprint said it added 1.3 million customers in the quarter, below an average estimate of 1.4 million among five analysts contacted by Reuters. The analysts' estima...
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 12:06 PM
a company truly doesnt care about analysts that much.. i havnt even heard of that analyst.

regardless, they are doing well for a company in the midst of buying their affiliates and merging operations.
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SystemShock

Apr 26, 2006, 12:16 PM
Yeah, but the stock fell too. Doesn't seem like peeps think its good news.
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 12:20 PM
well when a companies misses or gives a bad outlook the stock will usually go down. i really dont care too much, al though i do have shares, becuase i know long term (which is what it is about) this company will be extremly strong.

you have got to look at a company for its future and its assets and becuase of that they are a favorite in this sector.
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texaswireless

Apr 28, 2006, 12:37 PM
Another priceless backpedalling by the nextel18 manchild. Long term is what matters?

This is absolutely hilarious.
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RUFF1415

Apr 26, 2006, 2:26 PM
Heh, you didn't seem to think that when Cingular had a "bad" quarter.
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texaswireless

Apr 28, 2006, 12:43 PM
This guy is backing up so badly it is almost painful.
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texaswireless

Apr 28, 2006, 12:34 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG

You have got to be kidding me.

A company doesn't care about analyists?

I need to bookmark this thread so every time you spout off the crap you do about analyists and why Cingular isn't doing well we can throw your B.S. right back in your face.

You truly are two faced in your analysis.
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VzwRsR

Apr 26, 2006, 12:53 PM
Favorite in which sector?

Sprint currently has a higher Arpu than verizon but there prepaid market lack's in dollars per user. Combined with there market share of new users and Churn sprints Current outlook is not that great imho.

If they could build there customer base I would be inclined to agree that they are a favorite however even given the post-merger hiccup's they still continue to lack the draw of the larger carriers. Without a agressive PR/Advertiseing campaign I see a company that will continue to spin it's wheels while getting nowhere fast.
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 1:12 PM
in the wireless sector.. with their growth potential, assets, deals and managment they are easily the favorite in this sector. especially with the $14.5B+ in synergies and the spin off of $7B in debt off their books.

i wouldnt worry about this company, becuase it is very strong.. this merger hicup wont be a big deal after their affiliates buyouts are all closed and they combine billing and other systems.

see the thing is about the other carriers is that they only really care about postpaid and voice, while sprint only cares about prepaid and data.

in this market you need prepaid and data to carry you into the future becuase postpaid and voice are declining.
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brentgodwin

Apr 26, 2006, 1:20 PM
I agree with you nextel..Sprint is doing well with all the acquisitions they have made within the last few months...

the arpu for postpay customers is huge...

VZW, Cingular, T-mob could only hope to shout at that...

What do you think VZW's numbers will look like..I see that Cingular numbers were very close to Sprint's...
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 1:30 PM
there are so many things going on at sprint for them doing what they are doing now is quite good. imagine when they are only focused on wireless, how well they would do?

arpu for postpaid and prepaid are huge.. (highiest in industry)

yea, the other carriers are only good really for voice, but sprint is the best when it comes to data.

i think verizon will see in the 2 million range.
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brentgodwin

Apr 26, 2006, 1:40 PM
when you say best data...are you talking about arpu or just service in general..

I am not sure about that 2 million guess...I sell verizon and our numbers here are down compared to last year..but data sales are up...

I imagine it more being around that 1.7-1.8 mark...with 1.8-1.9 churn...
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 1:50 PM
best data in data arpu and service.. (their powervision, ev-do, is one of the fastest growing service out there right now for the timeframe it has been out)


well i think they could hit 2 million.. channel checks indicated a great first quarter.. so who knows.
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VzwRsR

Apr 26, 2006, 2:47 PM
While I agree the metrics look good the base problem is still there Churn and Customer basis. I think its great there 'focusing' on data or is that a byproduct of there free vision promo and lax price plan structure.

I will be the first to agree that voice is the future for profit's however there (sprint's) network still needs allot of help and without revenue (ie turning a profit) I personally see a company struggleing to tread water. If I had to pick a propect with the brightest future imho it would have to be TMobile outside of there network they seem to be hitting everything on the head.


My predictions for VZW
1.9 million
1.8 churn
higher arpu
lower than expected prepaid higher average dollar per user
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 2:58 PM
being 3rd in this industry isnt that bad and they were 2nd in total net adds for 2005, behind verizon.


" network still needs allot of help and without revenue (ie turning a profit) I personally see a company struggleing to tread water. "

voice isnt the future (well on the postpaid), becuase data is and that is what this company is focusing on...

lol what does that mean? not sure if you noticed but they did very well with revenue and they turn a profit each and every quarter.. (especially this latest one)

they lead the industry in many metrics..

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i think your churn is too high for vzw.
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VzwRsR

Apr 26, 2006, 4:22 PM
If metrics made a company Sprint would prolly be #1 or 2.. As far as turning a profit, I agree in the literal sense sprint turned a profit (Go Sprint) However from a stock holder point of view it was marginal at best. Sprint has allot against it, Poor CS, Poor execution in Advertising, Poor service outside of major metropolitan areas. I assume you have sprint/nextel so this should be nothing new. As stated before I agree whole completely voice is not the future of cell phone as far as turning a profit. Data and other "Extras" are the future for profitable business. And so far my own company tends to lack in that IMHO. That being said the core of any cell phone is the ability to talk having been a sprint customer before in the Massachusetts ...
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 9:16 PM
sprint may have a lot against it, however, it has tons of gains especially becuase of this merger..

1. managment
2. spectrum
3. towers
4. cable deals.
5. mvnos
6. industry leading metrics
7. i can keep on going but you get the drift


wait till the merger is 100% completed and they move over nextel's spectrum... things will change 🙂
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RUFF1415

Apr 26, 2006, 2:29 PM
That churn is way too high. Verizon should see 1.2%-1.3% churn.
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brentgodwin

Apr 26, 2006, 2:53 PM
you might be right...We in lovely middle of nowhere wyoming have only verizon and alltel providers..so I can only see minor...I have not seen that many leave us (vzw) vs alltel...they are jumping ship to the tune of 8-10 per month...
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VzwRsR

Apr 26, 2006, 2:56 PM
meant to say I will be the first to agree that voice is not the future for profitable buisness.

It is hard to type on this pda sometimes. Sorry.
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 9:13 PM
yea.

its ok...

everyone knows voice isnt the future lol.
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VzwRsR

Apr 26, 2006, 3:03 PM
Also meant to say 1.3 churn not 1.8 .. I expect a slightly higher churn as is common 1st and 4th quarters in my experiance.
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 9:13 PM
im confused.. lol.
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Hello Moto

Apr 26, 2006, 5:29 PM
1.5 million adds.
1.5% churn...
for Verizon 1Q...
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Animosity_Reigns

Apr 26, 2006, 9:16 PM
2.1 adds
1.1 churn



My prediction from the razr sales/music on demand and the contest to get churn below 1.0 thats going on right now
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MidnightDT

Apr 26, 2006, 4:27 PM
Due out next week. heres what I expect to see


NET Adds: 2.1 million
ARPU: 51.07 (almost a dollar increase)
Churn: 1.3%
Operating Revenue: 8.9 billion
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temp_name

Apr 27, 2006, 12:02 AM
arpu will probably go down, not that much though, data will offset voice.
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Green Jeep

Apr 26, 2006, 11:03 PM
I've read some real interesting stuf in this thread, the most surpruising of which is the call of data being the future. While I don't wholly disagree, if a company does not focus on what is the very core of the service, in this case the voice product, growth in other segments will be for naught.

You cannot abandon focus on the voice service. Data can be a nice addition to the array of products and does need development. I would submit that it will be a key to the futures of a successful wireless company. It cannot be to the detriment of the core service. You know it, voice.

The issue with Sprint is not that they haven't focused on data products and have been developing a nice portfolio of data services, they have. The have done so wit...
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SystemShock

Apr 27, 2006, 11:26 AM
Green Jeep said:
I've read some real interesting stuf in this thread, the most surpruising of which is the call of data being the future. While I don't wholly disagree, if a company does not focus on what is the very core of the service, in this case the voice product, growth in other segments will be for naught.

You cannot abandon focus on the voice service. Data can be a nice addition to the array of products and does need development. I would submit that it will be a key to the futures of a successful wireless company. It cannot be to the detriment of the core service. You know it, voice.

The issue with Sprint is not that they haven't focused on data products and have been developing a nice portfolio of data serv
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