yes the call to the other number would go to voice mail, which you could check from dialing the phone number, and within cell phones i am not sure it is possible to have to seperate rings tones, land line yes, but the only one number at a time can be attached to any ESN number, as to what to do regarding your situation, my ideas are limited, besides the two phone issues, though the idea of a famil share line may help.

How would the family share plan help? Would I be able to get different area codes?

No, having numbers from two different areas is not possible. The phone is programed out of a specific switch and it will not be possible to program a number from a different switch on it.

ok that is not exactly true with VZW service, they can program thier phone from any switch, and have service, with an America's CHoice plan, the whole network is your home area so you are not decicated to an exact switch.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Phone numbers reside in the carrier's and LEC's local switches. That's why number portability is "Local" only. Due to the limitations of LNP carriers are limited by the type of programming allowed on a phone.

then explain to me why exactly i can be in florida when i have a new york number and can update my phone with over the air programing, without messing it up?

For the same reason you can have a phone number in one state and check your voicemail in another. The phone is checking in with the network and receiving over-the-air programming. When you receive that programming it affects roaming updates, and another other info, for the entire network - not just your local area. Same reason I have a business customer with a billing address in Utah but has reps with numbers out of GA, PA and TX.

Could he keep it simple by using the call forwarding option and have one of his two numbers forwarded to the other? That would get him what he wanted, "both numbers ringing to the same phone." Right?

Dual Nam programing is possible and easy to do, but as long as everything is done right. I have lots of experence in this because we do suport it in West area telesales. Alot of people who run their own companies do this for alowing someone in one area to call them while they are in the other and visa versa.

1) 2 phone numbers must be established with their own plan. If you wish to do a family share plan with both lines, it posible under certain circumstances. A) both phones in the same area code local and national family shares are posible. B) Phone numbers in different areacodes in most (90% of them) cases only america choice plans are able to share and then only if they are in the same billing system. This person is going for New york ...
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I pulled up the m&p for dual nam today at work and this is what it said. Phone needs to have dual nam capability. NAM1 cell number has to be a national price plan and prl can be programmed over the air. NAM2 cell# has to be a regional or local price plan and the number has to be manually programmed and the prl has to be flashed to the phone

I know that the above is pretty simply explained, but could you "dumb it down" for me a bit. 😁

Also, I looked around and I can't seem to find anywhere that will tell if a phone has dual NAM capability. Where can I find out?

So, you will have 2 cell #'s. One of them has to be assigned as NAM1 and the other as NAM2. The cell # that is assigned as NAM1 needs to be on a national price plan, i.e., americas choice, it can be programmed over the air by dialing *228 send and option 1. NAM2 cell # needs to be on a local calling plan and it needs to be manually programmed into the phone. The prl(prefered roaming list) for NAM2 needs to be flashed to the phone; basically you take the phone to a direct VZW outlet, they hook the phone up to a computer and upload the prefered roaming list.

For the above to work, make sure that the serial # is entered into the system for both #'s. Also, in order for the *228 to dial through you need to be on the VZW network.

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Nextel has the ability for 2 lines active on one phone at the same time. They call it alternate line... An incoming call on line 1 or 2 is indicated on the screen that way "incoming call line 2".. Kinda cool. I think this is what the original thread was looking for.

It was what I was looking for, I think if I can find a phone with an auto NAM setting I'll be set. I was prepared to purchase a new phone anyway.

But, heres the thing...even with the Auto NAM, will two numbers from different parts of the US work?? That was/is the original problem I was facing.

So, from what I've been able to figure out so far... I can have two numbers going to one phone that has a dual NAM capability and the numbers are on the correct price plan (one America's choice, the other a local calling plan). But for that to work I have to switch to a Family Share Plan (correct?). Then I'll be able to have two numbers from different parts of the US (NJ & FL), on one account, going to the same phone.

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Cant be on a family share plan, because one # has to be a national plan and the other local. You can have 2 numbers(NJ & FL)

Your getting really close there, yes two numbers will work. Yes you need a dual nam phone. As for auto nam, I went through the phones we are currently offering and very few have auto nam even though almost all have dual nam. The best one I would recommend if your looking at a new phone is the LG-VX 4500 which does what your looking for. If you were looking at something else I'll tell you if it's dual name w/ auto nam.

No on the family share. Read my original posting on this topic. As for the whole thing with the local/national plans, well it reads that Nam1 (Your first phone number) is reserved for national plans and Nam2 (your 2nd number) is reserved for local or regional plans. I don't think you HAVE to do that way, but if you have one ...
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OK, I think I've got it.

As far as the phones go, is there some where on PhoneScoop.com that I can look at the phones specs to see if they are dual/auto nam or not?

The dual numbers don't have to happen right away, so if there's a better phone coming out in a month or two that has the dual nam capability I'm looking for I can wait.

I was looking at the Motorola V810 or the LG VX-8000.

Oh, I currently have the V60s, what NAM capability does that have?

Also, is there anyway one of you guys/girls that has explained this to me, if you're a VZW CS rep, can help me do this so I don't have to attempt to explain this to somebody from the start? 🙂

The moto v60s is dual NAM capable per moto's website. I couldn't find anything in the phone's user manual on how to get to the setting. If you have any questions about the phone, the best resource would be moto. 1-866-BUY-MOTO

This phone is indeed dual nam but it does not appear to do autonam according to our internal equipment guide.

Is there some where on PhoneScoop.com or other website that I can look at cell phones specs to see if they are dual/auto nam or not?

the phone finder, make multiple numbers per name a reqirement, then sift through the results

Dyingunman said:
the phone finder, make multiple numbers per name a reqirement, then sift through the results

wait stupitiy,

ignore what i just wrote

lol, I was about to say, thats for phone book entry. 😛 No, there is no way on phonescoop to check. I know how to check internally though on phones... Mr Rich Brome, perhaps this is a suggestion for additional info for phones to provide? 🙂

I know if you can find the last model of the startac released int he US, it was actually quad nam 😛

jester2ll2 said:
Does anybody have any ideas as to what I could do that would the easiest way to keep both numbers, short of carrying around two phones?

lol I carry 3 phones most of the times one from VZW, my everyday phone, one from Cingular (on this one I have unlimited txt mgs) I got this one from work, and one from T Mobile, now this one I leave home often It's useless. I use it only when I dont have any daytime mins left on the other ones {if I get a signal}

Dang 3!

I was thinking about if I did go the 2 phone route, possibly picking up a V8160 off eBay, that way it wouldn't be taking up to much room.

I once did a set up of a service only (he provided the equip, we just set up the line for him) for one of the VP's for Cingular who was a rather entertaining person to talk to. I think he said it best, if you want perfect coverage you got to have at least 5 cell phones, one from each major company (Which he told me he had). Then he just has what ever calls he gets forwarded to the cell he is using that works in the area that he is in.

Keep in mind that if you are going to forward one to the other that they are on the same acct and on a family share so you aren't billed for double mins of two separate plans. I have dealt with several dual nam customers and it can be tricky. For those of you who might be moving cross country and want to keep both numbers. Because the country is split into 2 billing systems with Verizon (East and West), i.e. if you have a CA # and a NY # you can used both on one phone however it will require to separate accts and that means 2 bills with 2 individual plans and that can be more costly than its worth.

NJ and FL cannot be on the same account and family share plan. They are in 2 different regions and 2 different billing systems.