I'd guess they're pretty much equal, at least in terms of POPs covered. How does the Cingular plan match up price-wise with the NSR? I'm just curious. I personally like the NSR plan, we sell a bunch of 'em to truckers & the like. Not so good on the airtime, but hey, at least it works where you need it to.

I was wondering if and when Verizon is gonna make their night & weekend start @ 7pm versus 9pm. I assume that once the Cingular acquisition of ATT wireless is complete in December, they will have no but to do some radical things like 7pm. This will be due to the fact they will NOT be #1 anymore. Cingular will supplant them as the biggest wireless provider in the USA.

pterok said:
I was wondering if and when Verizon is gonna make their night & weekend start @ 7pm versus 9pm. I assume that once the Cingular acquisition of ATT wireless is complete in December, they will have no but to do some radical things like 7pm. This will be due to the fact they will NOT be #1 anymore. Cingular will supplant them as the biggest wireless provider in the USA.

Not sure, we might. But right now, no. With other carriers it's $8 extra a month. You could just up your rate plan $5 and get more minutes to cover 7-9 and you wouldn't need to pay the $8 more with another carrier.

I am about as high as I can get w/o going broke. I am on the 1200 Family plan and the 7-9 time is eaten up for me due to I am on east coast and I call my friends and family back in the Midwest before I go to bed @ 9 :-(

you go to bed at 9?

HEY some people have to get up early 😁 helps you stay healthy and be alert for the entirety of the day.

There's nothing wrong with an early bedtime.

disturbed1 said:
HEY some people have to get up early 😁 helps you stay healthy and be alert for the entirety of the day.

There's nothing wrong with an early bedtime.

Hey I agree, I only wish I could go to bed so early.

Cingular Nation GSM example:

59.99 gives you:
850 minutes with rollover
unlimited nationwide nights and weekends across the entire network
unlimited mobile to mobile across the entire network
Wireless Internet Express pay per use and Text Messaging pay per use

No long distance or roaming charges even if on another GSM carrier.

As compared to SingleRate National:
100.00 gives you:
900 minutes
from the info on site it was unclear if unlimited nights and weekends or M2M were available. So I will err on Verizon;s side and assume it is.

Text messaging is included, as are no roaming and free LD.

phonepimp3376 said:
but not significantly more, and that changes very soon, my friend, very soon.

I guess very soon means in 2 years? It will take quite a while for your ATTWS merger to go through, while Verizon keeps adding more customers than the other carriers.

And as I've said before, you can't tell the future, if you could, you wouldn't be on here typing and looking at responses. You would know what everyone is going to say.

Cingular will make changes as Verizon makes changes accept one thing: We make changes to STAY #1, Cingular makes changes to BE #1...big difference. 😈

$36(2 year contract) activation fee--Cingular $15(2 year contract)activation fee--Verizon
Our 1 year ...
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Pimp... our BUYOUT of ATTWS will be completed sometime between October and years end 2004. Network integration is expected to take about 60 days.

I WAS a VZW rep... probably long before you ever entered wireless. Remember AirTouch? Bell Atlantic Mobile? Verizon Wireless? Worked for VZW in all those incarnations. You couldn't double my annual salary and commissions to go back. MY company doesn't need shady **** like 'we're most reliable because our techs who WORK for us and have NEVER driven any other network SAY we are'

We offer great phones, and great service to those phones, at a price you can't touch.

I would agree that Cingular has a good product. Their coverage is as good if not a little better than Verizon in Miami. HOWEVER, I can't stand GSM since I hear static and people tell me I sound hollow. I have had Verizon for 14 years(airtouch,etc). Since digital service, have NEVER gotten static. Not sure why GSM has statci and CDMA doesn't.(Maybe it is due to the CDMA technology.) I am not that techie, so an expert could clue me in ;-0

Doesn't make sense to me as both signals are pure digital. I would suspect the equipment myself. When I hear this from customers face to face, it is usally due to them having the volume too high... this causes the microphones on some phones to pick up background noise. What phone were you using when you had these complaints?

I have a samsung a610 w/verizon and tried a nokia 6600 on Cingular as well as a ericsson 226, moto 600, and t-637 on ATT wireless. Had the same trouble with all except my Verizon phone

Thats funny all this time I thought having the volume up all the way caused an echo not static...static is usually the network

phonepimp3376 said:
Pimp... our BUYOUT of ATTWS will be completed sometime between October and years end 2004. Network integration is expected to take about 60 days.

I WAS a VZW rep... probably long before you ever entered wireless. Remember AirTouch? Bell Atlantic Mobile? Verizon Wireless? Worked for VZW in all those incarnations. You couldn't double my annual salary and commissions to go back. MY company doesn't need shady **** like 'we're most reliable because our techs who WORK for us and have NEVER driven any other network SAY we are'

We offer great phones, and great service to those phones, at a price you can't touch.

It's ok there phonepimpy, don't cry.

Key word: "WAS" a verizon rep.

You...
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We will remain changing things to stay #1, Cingular will remain changing things to be #1.

The issue as I see it is that every time Verizon changes something its costs them a bundle. Imagine 45 million subscribers talkiing free to each other on a TRUE national Network. Ouch dats gotta hurt.

Cingular only has to keep doing what it's doing and has budgeted for all along.

If you honestly think that Cingular can stay exactly where they are not making ANY changes whatsoever, and will top VZW you deserve to be placed into a loony bin

Verizon is trying to catch up to Cingular in features, pricing and Value. Cingular already has the largest free M2M network. 7PM unlimited nights. Huge selection of fully featured phones. Roll Over minutes which you guys like to diminish but who does not like getting all they pay for and have a year to use it?

No no no. Cingular just has to stay the course and get the ATT netwok integrated and change nothing. It's Verizon that is NOW suddenly doing all the changing. You just got M2M! No roll over. Even rumours about three year contracts to buy time.

Even Sprint has the flex plan which is at least an attempt to keep lower minute users from bill shock if they should have a talkitive month.

kingfrog77 said:
Verizon is trying to catch up to Cingular in features, pricing and Value. Cingular already has the largest free M2M network. 7PM unlimited nights. Huge selection of fully featured phones. Roll Over minutes which you guys like to diminish but who does not like getting all they pay for and have a year to use it?

No no no. Cingular just has to stay the course and get the ATT netwok integrated and change nothing. It's Verizon that is NOW suddenly doing all the changing. You just got M2M! No roll over. Even rumours about three year contracts to buy time.

Even Sprint has the flex plan which is at least an attempt to keep lower minute users from bill shock if they should have a talkitive month.

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I apologize. "unlimited" was what I ment. Although as far as personal use goes 1000 minutes may as well be unlimited!

Enjoy.

Pimp -

Spoken like someone who values their paycheck over their customer's needs. Why doesn't that surprise me?

Has it occured to you that we weren't even fully GSM until about a month ago? Granted, we finished the overlay faster than even WE expected... was supposed to take another 6 months or so.

You nationwide coverage and ours are pretty damn close to identical, actually. We are within 2% of your coverage as of June 04. Once the AWE buyout is complete, it will exceed yours, as will our spectrum allocations.

Even though our network was not fully GSM, we managed to become the number 1 GSM carrier in the US. ANd soon we will hold the title of number 1 on any technology. We will emerge from the buyout uniquely positioned to do ...
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You wanna take this outside PP hehehe

Sure... if I'm not there in 5 minutes, start without me...😁

Okay I've already beat the crap out of myself now when do I get a round with you...hehehe

lol

phonepimp3376 said:
Pimp -

Spoken like someone who values their paycheck over their customer's needs. Why doesn't that surprise me?

Has it occured to you that we weren't even fully GSM until about a month ago? Granted, we finished the overlay faster than even WE expected... was supposed to take another 6 months or so.

You nationwide coverage and ours are pretty damn close to identical, actually. We are within 2% of your coverage as of June 04. Once the AWE buyout is complete, it will exceed yours, as will our spectrum allocations.

Even though our network was not fully GSM, we managed to become the number 1 GSM carrier in the US. ANd soon we will hold the title of number 1 on any technology. We will emerge fr

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Not really, CDMA has about an equal share in the US. Figure nationally, theres VZW SPCS... combined subscribers about 56 million. ATTWS Cingular T-Mobile about the same.

Yes we are within 2% of coverage, but you miss the big picture: We dominate your M2M coverage, we are 2/3 finished with EDGE while you have 2 or three markets deployed with EV-DO, we have better phones, more options people want, more minutes for less money.... we own you just about everywhere BUT coverage, and our networks are so close there its a nonissue.

No one here has stepped forward with third party data showing VZW's more reliable network, so we can toss that little bit of hype out the window.