A Tale of Two Companies
I am a pretty satisfied with my Verizon Wireless service and I happened to stumble upon this little bit of information.
http://www.taleof2companies.com/ »
I am curious if Verizon Wireless employees are really mistreated when it comes to unionizing or if this is just Cingular propaganda.
http://www.taleof2companies.com/ »
I am curious if Verizon Wireless employees are really mistreated when it comes to unionizing or if this is just Cingular propaganda.
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excuse me? I dont know if one single person in my call center that wants a union. Verizon Wireless treats their employees far better then Cingular does.
Verizon Wireless has the best benefits in the industry paying over 90% of all the costs for medical, dental, vision, and perscription drugs. they also have tuition reinbursement, 401k, life insurance, spending accounts and everything else it is extremely affordable and available to all employees part time or full (altho 95% or more of vzw employees are full time). They also have great programs for working parents including great discounts on child care/daycare and even a program for emergency situations where you can get a liscensed child care professional to come to your house and watch...
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Verizon Wireless has the best benefits in the industry paying over 90% of all the costs for medical, dental, vision, and perscription drugs. they also have tuition reinbursement, 401k, life insurance, spending accounts and everything else it is extremely affordable and available to all employees part time or full (altho 95% or more of vzw employees are full time). They also have great programs for working parents including great discounts on child care/daycare and even a program for emergency situations where you can get a liscensed child care professional to come to your house and watch...
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oh btw i just realized this stuff is on the CWA's website, ofcourse they are trying to stir up **** they want to get in with vzw so bad. VZW has like 55,000+ employees know how much money they would make if they were able to unionize VZW? a ton.
whats stopping them from doing it? its not VZW its the employees of VZW being happy where they are.
whats stopping them from doing it? its not VZW its the employees of VZW being happy where they are.
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I'd like to tell it to the one lady they have on there from one of Verizon's southern call centers...I beleive it's the one in Georgia.
(Recognised the voice from his converstaions with her, even with the electronic filters.)
(Recognised the voice from his converstaions with her, even with the electronic filters.)
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Maybe I'm just new and naive, but I absolutely LOVE working for Verizon. Best company I've ever worked for. Best management, best co-workers, best benefits, best pay.
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I would have to say it is possible..since apparently they ended retirements for some employees. (Heard that from an old gentleman who stopped using Verizon due to it.)
Also...my roomate who works at a third party company is treated fairly porrly.
Also...my roomate who works at a third party company is treated fairly porrly.
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your roomate doesnt work for verizon wireless, so what is your point? also verizon communications is NOT verizon wireless.
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I already get enough money cut for taxes, I can't imagine paying more "dues" ... eck.
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I personally *** 👀 looks around the room and wonders if this will be the thread that will get him FIRED! 👀 *** Don't like nor belong to the union!
I've never like to belong to any type of organizations like this. Shoe! even in high school I refused everything that will make me stay after school. lol. Anyway, I've seen so many plp get fired that is not even funny! and the UNION didn't do &%#@! F*** the Union!
guys, if I get fired; will you let me IN? 🤣 j/k
I've never like to belong to any type of organizations like this. Shoe! even in high school I refused everything that will make me stay after school. lol. Anyway, I've seen so many plp get fired that is not even funny! and the UNION didn't do &%#@! F*** the Union!
guys, if I get fired; will you let me IN? 🤣 j/k
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if you get fired ill get you a tech job with vzw anx 😛 down with unions!
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All I am gonna say is that is total BS propoganda from the CWA. Makes me think that is what the Nazi's used to do in Germany befroe WWII to get everyone to follow Hitler.
I love my job with VZW and would not even consider joining any union, ever, with any company.
I love my job with VZW and would not even consider joining any union, ever, with any company.
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It's amusing to me how all the Wireless co reps bash the union and are SO opposed to it. As a Verizon Communications worker & union menber I must ask you - where do you think your oh so fabulous benefits stem from? The core company of course whose wages & benefits were so strongly fought for by the union.
1% of my pay is well worth the return - 13 dollars and change to be exact - big whoop. That's less I am sure than the 10% you have to contribute to health insurance. Trust me - if the core employees were not unionized - your benefits & pay would NOT be what they are today. The wireless division has to be in line with the rest of the company - it can't be the welfare division of Verizon - how would that look?
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1% of my pay is well worth the return - 13 dollars and change to be exact - big whoop. That's less I am sure than the 10% you have to contribute to health insurance. Trust me - if the core employees were not unionized - your benefits & pay would NOT be what they are today. The wireless division has to be in line with the rest of the company - it can't be the welfare division of Verizon - how would that look?
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I thought Verizon Communication and Verizon Wireless were two seperate companys.
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Think of it as 2 companies under the same umbrella - which is what they are. Kind of similar to The General Motors umbrella under which Chevrolet, GMC and others fall under.
To pay a mechanic at Chevy $35 an hour and try to pay the same job at GMC $15 an hr would not fly. Hence Verizon Wireless employees reaping the benefits of it's predecessors - Verizon Communications (or New England or NY tel, NYNEX, Bell Atlantic if you will) Whatever you want to call it. I mean - if the core Verizon employees only made a max of $20/hr and had to pay for health insurance, had no pension or 401K - do you really think you'd have it as good as you do??? Do you really think the corporate giants give this out of the goodness of their hearts? Plllleas...
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To pay a mechanic at Chevy $35 an hour and try to pay the same job at GMC $15 an hr would not fly. Hence Verizon Wireless employees reaping the benefits of it's predecessors - Verizon Communications (or New England or NY tel, NYNEX, Bell Atlantic if you will) Whatever you want to call it. I mean - if the core Verizon employees only made a max of $20/hr and had to pay for health insurance, had no pension or 401K - do you really think you'd have it as good as you do??? Do you really think the corporate giants give this out of the goodness of their hearts? Plllleas...
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yeah but Chevrolet and GM do the same things. Make Cars. Our companies are totally different. And pay scales depend on where you live. I'm sure techs in NY get paid more than I do to start out.
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Your question was "Where does VZW's wonderful benefits and come from?"
A: They come the fact that Vzw is the best wireless provider in the US and the fact that they are not only the most profitable wireless provider, but also the most profitable part of Verizon Communications.
So you pay 1% of you salary to the union and it comes to $13.00. Man that means you only make $1300 per year. Or did you mean that was a 13.00 per week which equates to being almost $700.00 per year, just to say I am a union member. I have better uses for $700.00 per year than to pay it to a union.
If you like your union that is great for you, do not try to pressure others to want to be union. The numbers do not lie, Cingular employees are union and ac...
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A: They come the fact that Vzw is the best wireless provider in the US and the fact that they are not only the most profitable wireless provider, but also the most profitable part of Verizon Communications.
So you pay 1% of you salary to the union and it comes to $13.00. Man that means you only make $1300 per year. Or did you mean that was a 13.00 per week which equates to being almost $700.00 per year, just to say I am a union member. I have better uses for $700.00 per year than to pay it to a union.
If you like your union that is great for you, do not try to pressure others to want to be union. The numbers do not lie, Cingular employees are union and ac...
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thats good that verizon communications is happy with its union. As americans we have a democratic right to form and join unions, VZW cannot legally stop us from doing so if they did they could be sued hard.
VZW doesnt stop us what stops us from joining the CWA is the fact that we have it far better without them then we would with them, see my first reply for more details.
VZW doesnt stop us what stops us from joining the CWA is the fact that we have it far better without them then we would with them, see my first reply for more details.
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I don't know why you think you're better off without them, not even saying you're 100% wrong because I don't work where you do, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion...
I have all the benefits you do plus more. I am also not a member of CWA - I belong to IBEW. I guess I don't see the logic in how I'd be better off with out them....It has its pros & cons & I think the pros win out by far.
Without them I would be paying
for health insurance, have my pension yanked like our poor managers just did, have to work crazy hours if demanded, probably wouldn't be making as much, would probably be more stressed out in general, complaints would fall on deaf ears & heaven help you if your manager didn't like you.
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I have all the benefits you do plus more. I am also not a member of CWA - I belong to IBEW. I guess I don't see the logic in how I'd be better off with out them....It has its pros & cons & I think the pros win out by far.
Without them I would be paying
for health insurance, have my pension yanked like our poor managers just did, have to work crazy hours if demanded, probably wouldn't be making as much, would probably be more stressed out in general, complaints would fall on deaf ears & heaven help you if your manager didn't like you.
As far as wages va...
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Im not against unions. However, thanks, but no thanks. I am very happy without them. 😎
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if i worked in a steel mill maybe i would need a union. I dont work in a steel mill tho. you are pro-union, nothing against that. I am not against unions but I do not want one, and I do not know of one person I work with that wants to have a union come in.
re-read my first post at the top of this thread and you will see why that is if you are confused for some reason.
re-read my first post at the top of this thread and you will see why that is if you are confused for some reason.
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I don't agree with your logic on this one, but let's assume you are correct and VZW employees derive their pay and benefits from Verizon Comm.'s workers and union. If that was the case, VZW's employees would be getting the benefits of a union without having to join one or pay for one... so why would they need or want a union?
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I think this article is propaganda. First things first. For those who keep bringing up pensions being whisked away from retired management should use some smelling salt. That particular thing happened with Verizon Communications not Verizon Wireless. Meaning the company who does have a union got the shaft not vzw. Verizon Wireless is independent of Verizon Communications. They may share a name but they are ran separately. Hence verizon communications is publicly traded and vzw is privately owned.
Second, a union is only necessary in an environment where unfair treatment exist. This could mean wages, benefits, discrimination and so on and so forth. At vzw the employees are treated excellently. We make good pay with great benefit...
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Second, a union is only necessary in an environment where unfair treatment exist. This could mean wages, benefits, discrimination and so on and so forth. At vzw the employees are treated excellently. We make good pay with great benefit...
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I think it's pretty clear how the VZW employees feel. The majority of us like things the way they are. And for union-lovers who feel all anti-union Verizon Wireless employees have been brainwashed, I am friends with some of the cell-site technicians who are part of a union (yes, that's right, there are small groups of union employees throughout Verizon Wireless) and they hate it. They make less every year then their non-union counterparts because Verizon Wireless legally can't give them the year end bonus that everyone else recieves with the exception of sales, because it's not part of the contract. They can't wait for their contract to be up. Just some food for thought.
To all Verizon Wireless employees posting on here, I'm glad to see ...
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I would also like to point out two things a) the person starting this thread all but vanished after the post b) they just started that profile yesterday. Hmm........
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I'm still here dude. I was just wanted to get a VZW perpective on this issue that's all. I don't work for Cingular if that's what you're thinking.
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I used to be in sales for Verizon Wireless a couple years ago when the CWA was really targeting the company. My perspective at the time:
I made great money for what the job was, had great benefits, and was generally treated well and fairly by the company. I didn't see how a union could improve my situation at all.
Realistically, the only way a union will ever gain a foothold in the company is if pay or benefits get continually slashed. I know reps know get paid less than I did, but their pay still seems competitive, and I don't think the benefits have changed much, so I don't think the CWA will make much progress.
I made great money for what the job was, had great benefits, and was generally treated well and fairly by the company. I didn't see how a union could improve my situation at all.
Realistically, the only way a union will ever gain a foothold in the company is if pay or benefits get continually slashed. I know reps know get paid less than I did, but their pay still seems competitive, and I don't think the benefits have changed much, so I don't think the CWA will make much progress.
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Proof - you are absolutely right in what you say. Truly I didn't appreciate the union until the telecom industry took a turn for the worst. I know for a fact the only reason reason I still have my job is because of protection in our contract. More and more jobs are going overseas and to the cheaper labor states...
Currently the Wireless industry as whole is doing quite well - which is why everyone is happy & probably doesn't need a union. I sincerely hope it stays that way for you all - it's when things go bad that you learn to appreciate labor unions.
To the person who says they were unjustly fired and their union did nothing - that is truly a shame. In my experience people who have been fired here have deserved it & then some....
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Currently the Wireless industry as whole is doing quite well - which is why everyone is happy & probably doesn't need a union. I sincerely hope it stays that way for you all - it's when things go bad that you learn to appreciate labor unions.
To the person who says they were unjustly fired and their union did nothing - that is truly a shame. In my experience people who have been fired here have deserved it & then some....
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