Ok now ask yourself these questions! If I was a customer and asked you WHY is Vzw better than Cingular. (I'm standing in your store with a cingular brochure in my hand)
What would you tell me.
I have the best service....WHY?
Best CS..... WHY???
What about reception, call clarity, dropped calls, network reliability. And as a customer why do I care Tmobile will give me 1500 mins for 39.99(I think this is current pricing). Just break it down also in eroes infocenter do some of the trainings.
seriously though what is your sales pitch? Think about how you position Vzw above other carriers

I have always been impressed by salespeople who are giving more than just a pitch why I should choose one product over another. Have passion, have a testimony, you need to truly believe in the product you're selling. Excitement over the superiority of one thing over another is contagious. For many customers what you say isn't as important as how you say it.

For those who pride themselves on their intelligence and education, the numbers work in your favor. Forget the products, you can sell the company based on quarterly reports. Look at how many customers Verizon picks up, and more important, how few they lose.

Anyone can be taken by a good salesman and sign up for a service they'll later regret, the point is they're not regretti...
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Also, there's a lot of plp who are waiting for Cingular's network integration to be complete in their areas in order to switch to Cingy in order to get better/nicer phones.
Army are you out there? Tell him... 🤣 🤣 🤣

Anxiovert said:
Also, there's a lot of plp who are waiting for Cingular's network integration to be complete in their areas in order to switch to Cingy in order to get better/nicer phones.
Army are you out there? Tell him... 🤣 🤣 🤣

Anybody that has used both VZW and Cigular know your full of it. There is a reason why VZW's churn is so low and Cingular's is much higher - because Cingular consistently sucks in ALL areas. Save the better phone arguments, because that don't fly with me or anyone else I know. I pay a lot of money for my wireless services and I get what I pay for with VZW. Cingular is an absolute joke of a company.

Also, save the ArmySF argument. He's a total tool. He left VZ...
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Apparently someone didnt see cingular's Q1 churn... 🙄
Cingular = 1.8
Vzw = 1.2. (not THAT much higher)

(and it keeps getting LOWER AND LOWER, and lower, and lower.............)

vzw postpay churn 0.92 unmatched in the industry.

thats with "nazi red bars", "terrible phone selection" and "crippled bluetooth"

why is that?

Cingular's postpaid churn was 1.6 percent. Still not as low as Verizon's...but again, not far off. And it's dropping fast.

thanks for the update ruff.

Anxiovert said:
Apparently someone didnt see cingular's Q1 churn... 🙄
Cingular = 1.8
Vzw = 1.2. (not THAT much higher)

(and it keeps getting LOWER AND LOWER, and lower, and lower.............)

you're gay and suck at math. that's a big difference when dealing with over 50 million customers.

chaos987123 said:
that's a big difference when dealing with over 50 million customers.

Not really, when you're dealing with similar customer bases.

Similar customer base numbers and similar churn mean similar results. That's why churn is a percentage.

Now if we were comparing 50 million to 20 million...

I have used both Verizon and Cingular, and I don't "know" he's full of it.

I'm very pleased with Cingular service. From actual network reliability to customer service. I can't say that much for Verizon. And the nice phones are just an added perk.

Cingular must be a pretty good "joke" for being where they're at and being able to stay there.

Come to western Pennsylvania and give your phones a try, then you can tell me Cingular sucks in all areas and Verizon is better...and I'll know that you're full of it.

hes just unsatisfied ruff dont take it personal, people trash VZW all the time becuase they didnt get their free phone or the bluetooth is crippled whatever.

Ofcourse cingular is the industry leader (size wise) they are increasing coverage and lowering churn every quarter. what he says shouldnt really bother you.

VZW has the better network, tho 🙂

I'm not taking what he says personally. It just amazes me that people can be so brainwashed and ignorant to make a statement about "all" of anything.

It's just the same as Hello Moto trying to tell me that "everybody (in America)" recognizes the Cingular brand. They don't.

Nobody can speak for everybody.

And I agree. Verizon is a very good network in a lot of places, and it works for a lot of people...but not for everybody. I'm a prime example.

RUFF1415 said:
Come to western Pennsylvania and give your phones a try, then you can tell me Cingular sucks in all areas and Verizon is better...and I'll know that you're full of it.

Uh no, and you're full of it too.

What does it feel like to be in a fantasy world 24/7?

You're right...I'm full of it. I actually have no idea how sucky my Cingular phone is. I only use it all the time! 🙄

I wouldn't say you are full of it...just confused!

Why do people actually think that Verizon is better than Alltel? I work for Alltel and I am just wondering if there is something I am missing out on or what?!

Why do you think they are not???

Because Alltel gives you more for your money and the coverage is awesome.

Typically they are roaming on Vzw network. Also, we just purchased alot of their prepay

megan1 said:
Why do people actually think that Verizon is better than Alltel? !

I would like to try Alltel but they don't offer service in the little city of Seattle.

What carrier do they off there?

cingular, verizon, tmobile, and sprint. us cellular but only in Yakima WA

Who do you currently have?

verizon 😕

you cant compare alltel to verizon now...

alltel is too small.

Okay. Now what is it that I'm confused about?

RUFF1415 said:
What does it feel like to be in a fantasy world 24/7?

You're right...I'm full of it. I actually have no idea how sucky my Cingular phone is. I only use it all the time! 🙄

It feels damn good!

That's odd I live in Western PA and Vzw seems to dominate here for the majority of people I port from Cingy, Tmo, Sprint and Nextel everyday!

I'm not saying Verizon is bad, but I definitely would not say it dominates in Western PA. Everywhere I go with my Cingular phone I always seem to have sufficient service. And surprisingly, Cingular gives me service in buildings much better than I ever had with Verizon. The building penetration just isn't Verizon's strong point, especially in my home.

I've experienced far more dropped calls and garbled/static sounding audio with Verizon than I ever have with Cingular.

I live in Pittsburgh, just for reference.

That is outstanding!!, but can you eat 27 white castle burgers 😲 yea buddy 🤣

😎 i can 😲 yea buddy 🤣

Meet me there at 420 we will see 🤣
Hi sowhat 🙂

No, haha, we don't have any White Castles in western PA.

searching-for-service said:
Just because you work with the company you cannot tell me that Verizon has the best service every where you go. .

what 😕

so you left verizon and went with Sprint to save five bucks, and now have sub-par coverage and horrid CS.

Actually I went with Sprint because it works just as good as Verion in my area. I also save anywhere from 10-20 dollars a month.

hows that? sprint has the same prices we do pretty much and in most cases less minutes

Maybe Sprints billing is like a roulette wheel sometimes he saves ten another time twenty.

It has to do with there fair and flexible plan. I am sure that you have heard of it. 5 dollars for 50 minutes of overages. How does Verizon charge for their overages?

I never have any overage I have 'in' minutes which I don't have to pay 'Extra' to have 🙂
We are thrilled to death that you like Sprint and it's working well in your area. Let's talk about sprint and their no roaming charges 🙄 , sub-par coverage, awful customer service, and their pathetic (1900 MHz) network. Would you like to discuss all these shortcomings? 🙂

Your user name is exactly wtf my phone would say when I tried Sprint, is that where you got the idea 😛

There is know comparing sprint to verizon, and trying to do so will really show your lack of knowledge of the industry.

I have never been charged for roaming. Nor have i been charged for overages. As for Verizon it seems to me overage charges would range anywhere from .20 cents a minute up to .45 cents. That is where a lot of my savings come from.

🤣 🤣 well thats thats Phenomenal

I guess a real debate is to much you, but way to save five bucks 😛

Enjoy your day peace out 😎

I could be wrong... but aren't you paying $5 if you go over? 😕

yes i am paying 5 dollars for 50 minutes. with verizon i would pay anywhere from 10 dollars to 22 dollars if i was to go 50 minutes over

heres an idea, dont go over your minutes.

Verizon wireless gives you TWO free tools to track your minutes, one being #min from the handset airtime free it lets you know your minutes.

also go to verizonwireless.com and click on my account sign in and it shows your minutes. if you are going over your minutes you are not on the right plan.

FURTHERMORE you can call customer care airtime free anytime and increase your minutes to the next plan up, that plan can be backdated to the start of the bill cycle to give you the benefit of this minutes the whole month thus avoiding any overage charges.

also you said 45c a min overage which leads me to believe you are on the 39.99 plan, the fair and flexable plan from sprint is 39.99 only includ...
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If you go over exactly 50 minutes you get charged $5. 10c/min. that sounds good. But what if you go over 2 minutes. $2.50 / min overage. I would pay a Early Term FEE to get out of that contract. It makes 45c a min sound like heaven to me.

heres a graph for you mathmatically challenged sprint customers

MIN CHARGE
OVER - PER MIN
(SP) (VZW)
1 - $5 - 20-45c
2 - $2.50 - 20-45c
3 - $1.67 - 20-45c
4 - $1.25 - 20-45c
5 - $1.00 - 20-45c
6 - 83c - 20-45c
7 - 71c - 20-45c
8 - 63c - 20-45c
9 - 56c - 20-45c
10 - 50c - 20-45c
11 - 45c - 20-45c
CONGRATS IF YOU COMPARE TO VZW 39.99 PLAN YOU FINALLY BEGIN TO SAVE MONEY
12 - 42c - 20-45c
13 - 38c - 20-45c
14 - 36c - 20-45c
OK ...
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you would be correct. i actually get charged for what i use instead of huge overages

searching-for-service said:
you would be correct gunny damn you're a pimp

Thanks Bro 😁

You are right on target. Verizon in the Chicago area is very spotty a lot of dropped calls, very bad building penetration, and some static. I had Verizon for about 3 years and had nothing but problems. Their phones are not that great and their new UI really is not good either. My brother is still with them and every time he talks to me he sounds like he is in a tin can.

I too have switched to sprint and have had better results and cheaper prices, I switched my wife too and it is great that when she goes shopping her phone actually works inside the malls she goes to.

welll its true 🙂

you trip me out cuz your response always includes. metrics........qt stats, arpu,etc.... 🤣

Do you just read a post and interpret it anyway you see fit? The facts are verizon doesn't offer a bucket of minutes for cheap, early nights, etc. What 85percent does is explains to the potential customer the benefits of verizon. He can't sell them what they don't offer.


So before you go telling someone to do their job, think and pull your head out your a$s.