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INTERESTING!!!!

Macdawgg

Jul 9, 2004, 9:25 PM
Well there was a 20/20 report tonight(Fri) on cellphones-Network quality and customer satisfaction. The test was done in N.Y. city and they used the same phone (Nokia) for Sprint,Att,Verizon,Cingular. And guess who won the test overall-CINGULAR, Verizon was second,AT&T third and Sprint was dead last. If you go to-http://abcnews.go.com/-click on the 20/20 link and you can read it for yourselfs. I found this quite interesting πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ -They never specified the actual Nokia model but overalll quite interesting.
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johnrmcc

Jul 9, 2004, 10:19 PM
yea, but tests in a dense area like nyc are so misleading. i guess its fine if you never leave the city, but if you get outside of nyc...thru westchester and further up, cingular falls apart. no one has the network penetration in the ny area that vz has.
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Big Daddy

Jul 9, 2004, 10:40 PM
you said penetration 🀣
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phonepimp3376

Jul 9, 2004, 10:42 PM
About as misleading as testing a network in 12 of the top 100 markets and claiming its the best nationwide, huh?
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Big Daddy

Jul 9, 2004, 10:57 PM
VZW BLOWS DONKEY 😲
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TheVZWMan

Jul 9, 2004, 11:22 PM
Why is it that someone always has to ruin the intellectual talks by bring farm animals into the picture???
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Big Daddy

Jul 9, 2004, 11:25 PM
dont blame me, it was your mothers idea
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TheVZWMan

Jul 9, 2004, 11:28 PM
then will you just tell her to let the damn donkey go then...jeez, I hate it when she does that
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Big Daddy

Jul 9, 2004, 11:32 PM
aha a man with a sense of humor, thats rare in these parts, almost as rare as a man who cares about the company he works for enough to put their name in his user name
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TheVZWMan

Jul 9, 2004, 11:36 PM
Thank you, I aim to please!!! 😁
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Big Daddy

Jul 9, 2004, 11:39 PM
dont aim 2 high
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TheVZWMan

Jul 9, 2004, 11:42 PM
Why not? That's my job, to aim as high as I possibly can
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Big Daddy

Jul 10, 2004, 12:21 AM
can you read the writing on the wall
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TheVZWMan

Jul 10, 2004, 12:49 AM
no I can't...what does it say???
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NB3567

Jul 11, 2004, 6:47 PM
IMHO -- Ive had every carrier imaginable and there is none better than Verizon with coverage. I have great reception and no dropped calls. πŸ˜›
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muchdrama

Jul 9, 2004, 11:51 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
About as misleading as testing a network in 12 of the top 100 markets and claiming its the best nationwide, huh?
Pimp, instead of bashing the Consumer Reports article...tell us EXACTLY why it's so misleading. And then tell us why we should take your opinion over professional surveyors/researchers that perform this kind of work every day.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 10, 2004, 12:03 AM
In that particular area I would have to back up phonepimp...how can one advise that a company has the best NATIONWIDE network from testing 12 cities? For that I would think someone should do some major travelling...I'm talkin cross country, pack up the RV, hit the road, see the sites, travelling
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Big Daddy

Jul 10, 2004, 12:21 AM
I would do that, better than talking to morons about their moto
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 9:57 AM
Exactly my point. 12 markets is such a small part of the coverage map of VZW that it doesn't give even a hint of the picture nationwide.
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 1:23 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Exactly my point. 12 markets is such a small part of the coverage map of VZW that it doesn't give even a hint of the picture nationwide.
Perhaps they used sampling? 😁
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 1:25 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Exactly my point. 12 markets is such a small part of the coverage map of VZW that it doesn't give even a hint of the picture nationwide.
That's it! I'm pinning down my Verizon regional rep today and making him explain how this stupid survey can make any sense after "quizzing" only 31,000 people.
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VZWCustServ

Jul 10, 2004, 8:35 PM
TheVZWMan said:
In that particular area I would have to back up phonepimp...how can one advise that a company has the best NATIONWIDE network from testing 12 cities? For that I would think someone should do some major travelling...I'm talkin cross country, pack up the RV, hit the road, see the sites, travelling


Really you need to just pay a guy to walk cross country with a cell-phone saying "Can you hear me now?" after every step. 😁
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 10:11 PM
lmao...and then pay some little orange splat guy to follow him around marking the times he has to ask twice...LOL
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Aleq

Jul 12, 2004, 11:54 AM
And then Catherine Zeta-Jones comes by in a bikini and everybody forgets what they were talking about! Ya gotta admit, as corporate shills go, TMobile has the cutest one... 🀣
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phonepimp3376

Jul 12, 2004, 12:19 PM
Hey, I don't know... Jack Splat has STYLE!!! And he wears Speedos, but they're orange, so you can't tell. Think it's because he got cut in the final call for BAYWATCH...lol
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Aleq

Jul 12, 2004, 2:45 PM
So I guess it's true about the tangerine speedo's, then... just like the song! 🀣
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muchdrama

Jul 12, 2004, 3:37 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Hey, I don't know... Jack Splat has STYLE!!! And he wears Speedos, but they're orange, so you can't tell. Think it's because he got cut in the final call for BAYWATCH...lol
Buddy, he's not wearing any speedo...he's buck naked and you know it.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 12, 2004, 3:43 PM
Man, now that's CONFIDENCE!
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muchdrama

Jul 12, 2004, 3:54 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Man, now that's CONFIDENCE!

If you could get away with running about buck naked every day, wouldn't you take advantage of it? I certainly would.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 12, 2004, 3:55 PM
I second that....I mean...
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phonepimp3376

Jul 12, 2004, 4:00 PM
: considers painting VZWMan and muchdrama orange so they can skip and go naked and have an excuse when they get arrested :
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TheVZWMan

Jul 12, 2004, 4:03 PM
I could probably get off by pleading insanity...hehehe
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muchdrama

Jul 12, 2004, 4:13 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
: considers painting VZWMan and muchdrama orange so they can skip and go naked and have an excuse when they get arrested :
Here's my excuse: "Officer...I was hot.".
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TheVZWMan

Jul 12, 2004, 4:14 PM
lol...My AC is broke...
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Aleq

Jul 12, 2004, 4:18 PM
muchdrama said:
phonepimp3376 said:
: considers painting VZWMan and muchdrama orange so they can skip and go naked and have an excuse when they get arrested :
Here's my excuse: "Officer...I was hot.".


To which the officer would reply "Well you were up until the time you painted yourself orange, ya mooley!" and then he would arrest you and put ya in the pokey... 😁
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muchdrama

Jul 12, 2004, 4:33 PM
Aleq said:
muchdrama said:
phonepimp3376 said:
: considers painting VZWMan and muchdrama orange so they can skip and go naked and have an excuse when they get arrested :
Here's my excuse: "Officer...I was hot.".


To which the officer would reply "Well you were up until the time you painted yourself orange, ya mooley!" and then he would arrest you and put ya in the pokey... 😁
I'd rather not be in the pokey while buck naked, thanks.
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85percent

Jul 10, 2004, 8:47 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
About as misleading as testing a network in 12 of the top 100 markets and claiming its the best nationwide, huh?


12 markets being tested year after year

VS

one market being tested once

hmmmm I wonder which statistic would give a more accurate conclusion..

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-Verizon Wireless Sales

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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 8:59 PM
85percent said:
phonepimp3376 said:
About as misleading as testing a network in 12 of the top 100 markets and claiming its the best nationwide, huh?


12 markets being tested year after year

VS

one market being tested once

hmmmm I wonder which statistic would give a more accurate conclusion..

πŸ™„

-Verizon Wireless Sales

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Pimp's got a point, though. Polling 31,000 people? They've gotta be using sampling or something. I'm actually being turned to the dark side by Pimp. Do you see it? Ah!
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85percent

Jul 10, 2004, 9:30 PM
well yea Pimp makes good points and admits there are faults with every carrier, unlike Cain who thinks Cingular is jesus...


-Verizon Wireless Sales

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chris_lt1

Jul 10, 2004, 9:34 PM
85percent said:
well yea Pimp makes good points and admits there are faults with every carrier, unlike Cain who thinks Cingular is jesus...


-Verizon Wireless Sales



all this bickering between carriers (and boy do I love contributing), here's a thought....why dont we just have Tommy Lee Jones and James Earl Jones fight it out for us???
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 9:40 PM
chris_lt1 said:
85percent said:
well yea Pimp makes good points and admits there are faults with every carrier, unlike Cain who thinks Cingular is jesus...


-Verizon Wireless Sales



all this bickering between carriers (and boy do I love contributing), here's a thought....why dont we just have Tommy Lee Jones and James Earl Jones fight it out for us???
Pft...James Earl would SO kick Tommy Lee's ass.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 10:14 PM
Ya gotta watch out for both of those guys...JEJ packs a light saber, and TLJ got that lil noisy cricket...😁
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chris_lt1

Jul 10, 2004, 10:16 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Ya gotta watch out for both of those guys...JEJ packs a light saber, and TLJ got that lil noisy cricket...😁


what good is the gun when you have the force with you though....cmon now
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 10:21 PM
chris_lt1 said:
phonepimp3376 said:
Ya gotta watch out for both of those guys...JEJ packs a light saber, and TLJ got that lil noisy cricket...😁


what good is the gun when you have the force with you though....cmon now
See?! Chris knows! Cricket my ass.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 10:45 PM
Ahhh...but its the DARK SIDE of the force... TLJ is a good guy, and good always triumphs... well, unless you live in Bed-Stuy...lol
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 10:49 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Ahhh...but its the DARK SIDE of the force... TLJ is a good guy, and good always triumphs... well, unless you live in Bed-Stuy...lol
Okay...first it was "Cricket" and now it's "Bed-Stuy". I suddenly feel stupid.
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 10:56 PM
cricket - the little tiny gun that slammed Will Smith in 'Men In Black'

Bed-Stuy - the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of NYC...one bad ass neighborhood
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chris_lt1

Jul 10, 2004, 10:58 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
cricket - the little tiny gun that slammed Will Smith in 'Men In Black'

Bed-Stuy - the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of NYC...one bad ass neighborhood


I didnt get that one either, over here we have Compton and Watts
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 11:04 PM
chris_lt1 said:
phonepimp3376 said:
cricket - the little tiny gun that slammed Will Smith in 'Men In Black'

Bed-Stuy - the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of NYC...one bad ass neighborhood


I didnt get that one either, over here we have Compton and Watts
And down here in South Florida we have a little neighborhood called Liberty City. Can you all say "I survived the 1980 riots!". I can.
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 11:03 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
cricket - the little tiny gun that slammed Will Smith in 'Men In Black'

Bed-Stuy - the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of NYC...one bad ass neighborhood
Ah, I remember the Cricket. As for Bed-Stuy...I think I shall stay out of that neighborhood being a very white pasty Irishman.
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chris_lt1

Jul 10, 2004, 10:50 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Ahhh...but its the DARK SIDE of the force... TLJ is a good guy, and good always triumphs... well, unless you live in Bed-Stuy...lol


everyone knows that the darkside of the force is stronger though.....I didnt see Luke Skywalker shooting lightening from his fingers

and TLJ wasnt always a good guy....Batman, and that one where he was a pyscho IRA bomb specialist
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 10:51 PM
chris_lt1 said:
phonepimp3376 said:
Ahhh...but its the DARK SIDE of the force... TLJ is a good guy, and good always triumphs... well, unless you live in Bed-Stuy...lol


everyone knows that the darkside of the force is stronger though.....I didnt see Luke Skywalker shooting lightening from his fingers

and TLJ wasnt always a good guy....Batman, and that one where he was a pyscho IRA bomb specialist
Blown Away! Great flick.
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TheVZWMan

Jul 10, 2004, 10:17 PM
Not too mention, Tommy has dealt with Volcanoes and has been in every government position known to man...hehehe
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 10:22 PM
TheVZWMan said:
Not too mention, Tommy has dealt with Volcanoes and has been in every government position known to man...hehehe
The Force, man! The Force!
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 10:20 PM
phonepimp3376 said:
Ya gotta watch out for both of those guys...JEJ packs a light saber, and TLJ got that lil noisy cricket...😁
Ahahahahaha...wait, cricket?
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muchdrama

Jul 10, 2004, 9:39 PM
85percent said:
well yea Pimp makes good points and admits there are faults with every carrier, unlike Cain who thinks Cingular is jesus...


-Verizon Wireless Sales

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Well, Cain is...special.
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VZWCustServ

Jul 11, 2004, 2:45 PM
85percent said:
Cain who thinks Cingular is jesus...


And your reply is always VZW is God...
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phonepimp3376

Jul 11, 2004, 2:54 PM
Darn, where is my 85percent doll and my pins? CustServ, give em back! lol
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CainMarko

Jul 11, 2004, 7:28 PM
As usual, you keep distorting everything I've ever said on this forum, you asswipe. I think you are just jealous, because the amount of tech knowledge you have wouldn't fill a thimble. And I just happen to be the one that put you in your place. You think phonepimp is cool, but you don't like me? He told you the same thing as I did, and he thinks you're and ass clown, too. Hell, some of the VZW guys think you're a joke, too. Do us all a favor and stick to something more in your league... like Toy Cell Phones filled with candy.
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muchdrama

Jul 11, 2004, 9:38 PM
CainMarko said:
As usual, you keep distorting everything I've ever said on this forum, you asswipe. I think you are just jealous, because the amount of tech knowledge you have wouldn't fill a thimble. And I just happen to be the one that put you in your place. You think phonepimp is cool, but you don't like me? He told you the same thing as I did, and he thinks you're and ass clown, too. Hell, some of the VZW guys think you're a joke, too. Do us all a favor and stick to something more in your league... like Toy Cell Phones filled with candy.
They make toy cell phones filled with candy? I didn't get one?! 😒
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CRCinOklnd

Jul 10, 2004, 3:32 AM
Yes...I saw the same thing on 20/20 and also found it very interesting, and was happy for Cingular and Verizon. But on the other side of the coin...there was the gentleman that was very upset who had a Cingular phone that was constantly dropping calls on him, though they did not say where the man lived exactly. Which just goes to show in a matter of fair-ness, not all services work perfectly everywhere, Cingular or Verizon.
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Aleq

Jul 10, 2004, 11:48 AM
Hmmm, I don't see TMobile on the list, and since Cingular uses our towers in NYC... WHO's on top here??!! 🀣
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 12:07 PM
You don't see T-Mobile on the list because they don't use 850 AND 1900... the other GSM carriers do.
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Aleq

Jul 10, 2004, 1:32 PM
Well that explains why they didn't test us--but still, that's TMobile coverage that got Cingular the kudos in NYC... πŸ˜‰
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 2:11 PM
And Cingulars coverage that gets T-Mo such great coverage in CA and NV... so we're even...lol
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Aleq

Jul 10, 2004, 2:41 PM
Yeah, but we're buying it off you--then it will be OURS! ALL OURS, BWAHAHAHAHA!!! 🀣
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 3:04 PM
And we're buying the NY coverage off you, so nyahhhhh πŸ˜›
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Aleq

Jul 10, 2004, 3:08 PM
Nope, you bought AT&T to get the NY market, we're keeping ours, so neener neener, chili beaner! 😁 πŸ˜›
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 3:35 PM
Actually, you are giving up spectrum to Cingular in NY.

Cingular Wireless today announced it would end its network infrastructure joint venture with T-Mobile USA in New York, California and Nevada. Cingular will sell the California and Nevada network and certain accompanying spectrum to T-Mobile USA for approximately $2.5 billion. Cingular will also receive 10MHz of spectrum from T-Mobile in the New York area. The transaction is contingent on Cingular’s acquisition of AT&T Wireless, and federal approvals. Both Cingular and T-Mobile customers will be unaffected by the deal.
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Aleq

Jul 10, 2004, 3:42 PM
Just a leetle bit... 😁
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 3:44 PM
Yup, if the VZW buy is any indication, about 930 million dollars worth...lol chump change!
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Aleq

Jul 10, 2004, 3:48 PM
A mere bagatelle! Less than the dust beneath the chariot wheels, corporationally speaking... and wouldn't I just LOVE to have a small fraction of that!!! 😳
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phonepimp3376

Jul 10, 2004, 3:57 PM
you and me both... I'm still waiting for UPS to drop off that 20 pounds of hundreds they assure me is on the way...
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Aleq

Jul 10, 2004, 4:03 PM
Those lying bastiches! They told me MINE was next to be delivered! Schmucks... πŸ™„
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