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Add a line for $9.99 will cost you $19+ with Insurance or $14+ w/o in NYC

DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 1:53 AM
Real NYC Prices
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Add a line for $9.99 will cost you $20-/+ with Insurance or $14-$15 +/- w/o in NYC. Thats about 34% more than advertized.

Early term will cost you about $210 and change in NYC (not $175).

Whatever price plan you're on, you're paying about 20% more in fees in NYC.

So if you're on a $99.99 Plan You'll pay about 116.00 to 120.00.

If you have a two year contract thats $384(low estimate) $480/high estimate in Surcharges and Taxes.
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crazyeaglefan236

Jan 16, 2006, 10:17 AM
And if I buy a computer for 999.99 it will really cost me 1059.98 because of taxes. What's your point?
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 11:26 AM
If you did it under these rules it would cost you 1200.00 to 1500.00. %8.75 in sales tax is nothing, and if you buy online you can by from a vendor not licensed to do business in your state, thereby ommiting it alltogether and shipping is cheaper than taxes.

These taxes/levies/surcharges you and others en-masse pay every month.

Cincular collects 100,000,000 USD in USF
VZW collects about 90,000,000 USD in USF

Per Month. Per Account(avg.).

This money goes to the USF - This is not some benificent organization.

Its called the Universal Services Administrative Company.

http://www.universalservice.org/default.aspx »

Here is there One Hundreed Millon Dollar Per Month Success Story about Cingular Wirless.

http://www.univer »...
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texaswireless

Jan 16, 2006, 2:18 PM
You really are desperate aren't you?

Now you want to complain about federal, state and local taxes/fees?

These amounts are REGULATED. Talk to your congressman about it, stop wasting our time here. If you live in NYC and want a phone YOU HAVE TO PAY THIS AMOUNT regardless of the carrier.

Talk to those who matter. You time is wasted here.
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 2:46 PM
Universal Access is not Set by Pataki nor Bloomberg, Nor Bush.

When under unversal access/universal service, you can choose to pay it or pass it on to the consumer.

What is a Gross Receipts Charge?

(The Taxes and E911 stuff I've got figured out).
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texaswireless

Jan 16, 2006, 3:47 PM
But the taxes and fees are set by the government, hence the analogy.
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 4:05 PM
I get the analogy, however Verzion Wirless user agrement Clearly states:

"Charges and Fees We Set
* You agree to pay all access, usage, and other charges and fees we bill you or that the user of your wireless phone accepted, even if you weren't the user of your wireless phone and didn't authorize its use. These include Federal Universal Service Charges and Regulatory Charges, and may include other charges also related to our governmental costs. We set these charges. They aren't taxes, aren't required by law, are kept by us in whole or in part, and are subject to change."

[Last Edit 07-10-2005]

Not to be BIASED Here, this is what the cingular website told me based on my zipcode.
(alot more than VZW may I add.)

"About Thes...
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texaswireless

Jan 16, 2006, 6:16 PM
The only thing Cingular charges that IS NOT required is the $1.25 (up to). Verizon is the same (although the amount may be different).
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Celling_it

Jan 16, 2006, 10:19 AM
Twenty percent of 9.99 is $2.00, making the total 11.99, not 14-15 dollars. And to even add insurqance into the price is totally ridiculous. Insurance is a feature that you can add or not add. If ou are going to be that way we might as well assume that the cust wants v cast, text messaging, pix messageing, road side assistance, damn. Now that 9.99 is 35-40, but at the request of the customer. Man you are ridiculous.
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 10:28 AM
When you add a line for 9.99 you're usually buying it for someone, not yourself, you'll typically opt for insurance.

You obviously failed to READ

Its 14 to 15 dollars yes sir! Not 9.99
There are certain Per Line fees, vs. Percent Fees.
I've gotten these numbers from a REAL BILL.

I did not make them up, or are you so brazenly ignorant as to just tell people to shut up without even reading what they have said, just because you fail to see what it is that is being said.

The service is advertized as 9.99 + fees and taxes. Yes sir! Sooooooooooooooooooooooo.

It even looks nicer, how bout we add a penny.
Ok so its $10/mo for an additional line in NYC, hell no try $15/mo - typically $20 if you are getting it for someone, even if...
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Something Tough

Jan 16, 2006, 11:33 AM
Wrong again.

Tolls, taxes and surcharges and other monthly fees vary by market and will add between 6% and 34% to the monthly bill.

In other words, nowhere in the USA would a $9.99 line reach $14-15. At the very most $13.39. At the least $10.59.

The bulk of this is taxes. Problem with it? See your department of revenue.

The rest are the surcharges, and they're less than any other national carrier.
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 12:00 PM
Dear Voice of Logic

What are surcharges (89% of customers don't know)?
Where does this money go?

Why are they being taxed?

Why were these surcharges up untill march 2005 billed as (Required by the Federal Government) by many carriers?

On MY Verizon Wireless Bill it CLEARLY SPELLS
$3 in Taxes and $1.90 in VZW Sur-Charges.

I have 2 lines like this. Thats 4.90 a line...
From moth to month it varies as I've looked
thats why I posted 14 to 15.

I am guessing its calculated per-day not per month.
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Something Tough

Jan 16, 2006, 12:29 PM
We've already gone over your little "problem" with honesty.

Those 89% of customers should read their bills since it's printed on all of them.

If you're going to bash a company (which is fine) at least get your facts right.

I will now be going to spend some time outside.

What? You've never heard of "outside?" It's all that stuff outside of your front door. I suggest you explore.
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 12:38 PM
I'm not BASHING a company, I've resolved most issues. I have found CITA and SunCom and USCA this impacts all carriers. Not just VZW. Yes I have heard of the "outside".

Something Tough: I'm hopeing that we've walked away from our little thing that me and you have had with just minor scratches. Since you don't have a Contact me Option Open I cannot say more. And as grownups we'll learn to play nice (yes?)

I have defended VZW Employees rights right here in this forum, Since I am against any corporate sensorship of free speech.

So I am just being fair, maybee I am pro consumer, since I've not been on your side of the fence, nor the sales side of the fence like crazyeaglefan there. But I am certainly not being 100% un-resonable, its j...
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Something Tough

Jan 16, 2006, 9:03 PM
Here's my beef with you.
You come on this site with a simple question, "where can I find documented information on security deposits?" but rather than make it a simple post, you post over and over and over (and over and over and over) about how VZW is wrong and basically bashing them. You post your phone number which I look up and find out you had a declined payment in November which you never stated (now I understand you don't believe this for whatever reason, but obviously I have no way to prove this without getting myself fired, so whatever...) Then after posting your phone number twice, you act like some huge security breach has happened and you play the whole victim card (which was outrageous, you practically begged for me to "prove"...
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DKVZW

Jan 17, 2006, 2:18 AM
Dear Something Tough,

I believe you yet again missed something that got removed, a thread that I did not start, where I clearly stated this is my final post, and if you wish to contact me, just PM.

Cisco Unitiy is a Nice System (expensive but nice), please contact me outside the forum if you want to resolve any issues with me. I'm easy to find.

Thanks.


You post your phone number which I look up and find out you had a declined payment in November which you never stated (now I understand you don't believe this for whatever reason, but obviously I have no way to prove this without getting myself fired, so whatever...)


Why did you have to go and do that again?
I said, I hope we've walked away from ou...
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texaswireless

Jan 16, 2006, 2:21 PM
You are reaching...

Talk to these three guys.

Pataki
Bloomburg
Bush.

It has nothing to do with Verizon, or Cingular or whatever carrier. They didn't ask for these fees. They would be very happy to only collect sales tax.

And you lost any credibility (not that you had much anyways here) with that insurance line. That is an option, pure and simple.
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DKVZW

Jan 16, 2006, 2:51 PM

And you lost any credibility (not that you had much anyways here) with that insurance line. That is an option, pure and simple.


These numbers are from my bill, with and without insurance.

Typically you're adding a line for another person, I hardly see people carrying two phones, when you're doing that - you typically opt for insurance since that person is more likely to break the phone than you are.

Why don't they just do it like they do with VAT, post the complete price of the PLAN, Service with all charges included (they can do that you know) No Extras / No Pluses / No Stars near the pricetag / no small print? Why not?

I think it would bring them more busines than not. And If one Carrier does this ...
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kvazzz

Jan 16, 2006, 4:00 PM
Wow. Get a dog, a TV, a girlfriend (maybe you like guys?). But stop posting ABSOLUTELY USELESS CRAP here. I mean if you're so lonely, talk to the wall...

Seriously, I believe the KINGFROG77 is back!
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xIsamuTM

Jan 16, 2006, 8:38 PM
now I'm not trying to dis or anything. I'm just wondering your reasons for the post. so there's taxes, surcharges and whatnot on the bill. does not the same exist with all cell phone and land line providers (take a look at your quest bill) heck, cable does the same thing. Are you upset over the surcharges? would you rather it be obsorbed in the monthly rate itself? Showing off your ability to research a topic.

Please, explain to me your greavance with the 9.99. Is this directed at NYC specificly? The "system" in general? [i dont understand] [please] [help me out] [thank you]
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DKVZW

Jan 17, 2006, 12:27 PM
It's misleading advertising. Esp. in a market like NYC.
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Vatothe0

Jan 17, 2006, 4:09 PM
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So Verizon is supposed to advertise a different rate plan for every zip code? Get real
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leah-3470

Jan 16, 2006, 9:45 PM
here you go again. here is a industry issue and you bring it to the verizon forum to complain - any you claim you don't just bash vzw. out of those taxes and surcharges there is a .40 regulatory charge and a .05 admin fee that are imposed by VZW - which is the lowest carrier imposed fee out off all others. yet you only post this complaint here? why is that?
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