NotEnoughFood said:

rambofone said:

wfine81 said:
Just curious as to what everybody thought? Good Idea? Bad idea?

I personally think it is great idea, customers will not have to learn a new phone over when they get a new one.

It's totally bull****

I hate that verizon is doing yet another thing that seems very controlling to me. I understand that it will be easy for all the tards that will never have to learn another UI again....hip hip hooray for the tards. So not only do I have to wait friggin two years for the big V to put out the Razr it has to be 1mm thicker, an ugly color,and now a standard UI...and of course the BIG red V all over it.

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I think we will just have to see how it plays out, for the small percentage of us who are cell phone nerds this is a bad idea, but the vast majority of people are only interested in how a phone looks and really don't know much about them other than that.

I cant tell you how many people I have sold phones to that say "I need a basic phone to make and receive calls on that is easy to use"

VERY few people who come into the stores even know what Bluetooth, SD cards, and Enhanced messaging even are.

Who knows, it might sink like a rock or it might take off so good that other carriers follow.

wfine81 said:
I think we will just have to see how it plays out, for the small percentage of us who are cell phone nerds this is a bad idea, but the vast majority of people are only interested in how a phone looks and really don't know much about them other than that.

I cant tell you how many people I have sold phones to that say "I need a basic phone to make and receive calls on that is easy to use"

VERY few people who come into the stores even know what Bluetooth, SD cards, and Enhanced messaging even are.

Who knows, it might sink like a rock or it might take off so good that other carriers follow.

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Why does everyone have such a problem with it? I personally like it. It takes a little getting used to but I like some of the changes. Once you learn one you know how to work the rest. I have it on my new phone and think it's great. It's got a cool look too.

I'm a big LG fan and pretty much all LG's have the same menu, what's the difference? Instead of the LG, Samsung, or whatever menu, you've got the Verizon menu. Not a lot of difference.

I hate it because so far from what I have seen messing around with them in the stores it ruins any specialty features you may have enjoyed on any of those brands previously. Specifically for me calendar functions - while these differ greatly through each brand (nokia still having the best imo), your now forced to only the features of their standard as opposed to options you previously had. This is only the tip of the ice berg. I had more freezes when trying to get through menus quickly in store with the razr then I do on my V710, and that is pretty bad. The V710 is horrible... This menu system, and verizon in general have me so frustrated I am ready to switch to cingular, but damn vzw...their reliability is just to good to leave.

I have yet to get a new phone with the UI (whatever that stands for), but I know for switching carriers for better features and network, only Cingular closely matches where I travel with the least amount of roaming. While I don't roam in Starke County in Indiana with VZW, I would with Cingular and would roam in Centennial Wireless. I however would be on Cingular's network in Michigan going up to Saugatuck, where with VZW, I would roam on Alltel (crap up there with a partial analog network and spotty digital coverage, not to mention static). I already don't like the crippled bluetooth and OBEX disabled on their phones, which bluetooth was something I want on my next phone, and wanted to try some personalized wallpaper with my next phone. ...
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Yeah I can get around the obex with a data cable on my V710 with a few seems changed to allow mp3 ringers and such again, but what the hell did i buy a BT phone for then! Needing a cable to do all that defeats the purpose of BT. And you may want to check on the OBEX details of the a650, for me it was out of the question since I use a mac. I only consider cingular due to the lack of restriction, and vzw trying to make money off of everything. If they could charge per use of speakerphone I'm sure they would!

I would consider Cingular, only they haven't worked out their customer service problems. They've had customer service problems for years, and I had 3 family members on Cingular before the merger ever took place, and all 3 had problems with billing, but never with the network though. I have a friend who was on AT&T's TDMA netowrk and when he learned that he was acquired by Cingular, he immediately paid the early termination fee, just so he wouldn't have to deal with Cingular. I tried to talk him into Verizon, but I don't know why he hates Verizon, and he refused to sign with them even when he first heard of them, and instead, he's with Sprint PCS.

dave73 said:
I have yet to get a new phone with the UI (whatever that stands for), but I know for switching carriers for better features and network, only Cingular closely matches where I travel with the least amount of roaming. While I don't roam in Starke County in Indiana with VZW, I would with Cingular and would roam in Centennial Wireless. I however would be on Cingular's network in Michigan going up to Saugatuck, where with VZW, I would roam on Alltel (crap up there with a partial analog network and spotty digital coverage, not to mention static). I already don't like the crippled bluetooth and OBEX disabled on their phones, which bluetooth was something I want on my next phone, and wanted to try some personalize

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It's basically a good idea. Its like with computers... once you know the operating system, you know how to use any computer thats running that OS, regardless of who made it. Why shouldn't phones be the same way? They're basically tiny computer these days anyway.

The only downside would be if the standard UI was very unintuitive and/or had little to no user customization capability. For those that are using the Verizon UI, what is your verdict on those aspects of it?

it's a great idea and is very smart for business. You buy a phone for the looks of the phone since when is anyone comparing ui's? anyways the ui is the easiest and best I've seen for that matter, remember it's reliability and service that count the most. Phones are only cool if they work!!!!

exactly...there is nothing wrong with a standard UI on phones. people will still be able to customize their ringtones and background, etc. all the standard UI will do is make the menu system the same across the board. most cell customers want a phone to make and receive calls. a large part want camera phones, test messaging, and ringtone downloads. changing to a standard UI will not affect that. this way when a customer, especially one that isn't so tech savy, upgrades or changes phones, they dont have to learn a new phone. one phones menu system will be just like the others. personalization will still be there. besides many manufacturers have very similar or the same setups in their own phones, this just takes it a step further.

I LOVE THE NEW UI i was one of the first to have it on a blue 7000... i thought it was the new lg Ui then the 8000,8100,5200, haven't seen it in any other phone manufacture yet. and i'm not one of those phone retards. give me any phone and i can use it fine, but this one is just convienient.

I agree totally that UI is awesome. The best I have ever seen from any carrier and/or mnaufacturer.

I have seen it on an Audiovox phone. No idea what model it was as it was still in testing, but it was an interesting phone none the less.

Um, last time I checked, you have to go through their version of Get It Now and you also use airtime for things other than minutes. Verizon isn't the only company that does this. Look at Nextel - unlike Verizon, it's hard as he** to try and find a way to get ringtones to your phone most of the time unless you go through their Iden service. Don't be saying that Verizon's the only company out there out to make a profit, they all are.

well first of all I said they charge airtime for EVERYTHING u do it seems.......anbd youu are ACTUALLY wrong. u dont have to uise Get It Now, there are ways around it. And now that sprint owns Nextel, thats goin to change a lot cuz Sprint keeps talkin about the changes in press releases. And i didnt say that verizon is the only company making a profit. HELLO its a cellular company....thats what they do. I was just makin the point that Verizopn seems to go out of there way to make sure all cuztomers pay one way or another. Ive been with most of the other companies. Anyways, I was just stating my opinion on it. No big deal. 😁

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well first of all I said they charge airtime for EVERYTHING u do it seems.......anbd youu are ACTUALLY wrong. u dont have to uise Get It Now, there are ways around it. And now that sprint owns Nextel, thats goin to change a lot cuz Sprint keeps talkin about the changes in press releases. And i didnt say that verizon is the only company making a profit. HELLO its a cellular company....thats what they do. I was just makin the point that Verizopn seems to go out of there way to make sure all cuztomers pay one way or another. Ive been with most of the other companies. Anyways, I was just stating my opinion on it. No big deal. 😁

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It is on the 8100? That tabbed kinda-like-firefox-browser type of system?

It's ok. I personally don't find it as nice as my vx4650 old school LG menu (in text and words not pictures of course!)

I will admit though. Having the same standardized UI does make it easier when I have customers come in.

Are you sure that is a VZW standard UI and not a "LG standard UI FOR Verizon Wireless?"

Yes the 8100 has the new UI

Yes I am sure it is the standard UI, it jsut seems LG was the first one to adopt it. THere are 2 new samsungs in infocenter right now that have the same UI and the Razor coming out will have it also.

I agree I like the UI on the oldschool 4500 and 4650 but all the new phones will have the new UI in the future.

i did the same!!!

Me to, had it for a day, and I couldnt deal with it

chris

That's just sad. I usually like a phone because of features and reception. It is really sad that you waste your own time and ours just becuase you refuse to make a change. If you can get a good enough signal go ahead and use your cingular phone to call the WAAAAAAH-mbulance. Who cares about the UI? The phone works, it is a nice phone, it is on the best network and it has all of the features of the cingular RAZR. Oh i take that back it has more memory and a better camera and VCAST which the cingy RAZR does not. The UI is not a feature. It is how you use the features, its not a big deal, just take the 60 seconds to learn the new UI and you can do anyhting you want with it.

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How hard is it to learn a UI? I mean honestly. I had the new VZN UI on my 8000 and I learned how to use it in about a day, then I tried the razr and yes the UI is about the same (some minor differences) but when the menu lags 1-2 seconds and the predictive text input is changed that was enough. I guess I dont really have a problem with VZN implementing a standard UI, it is a good idea and should help both consumers and employees deal with problems...HOWEVER...if you are going to implement a standard UI it needs to be efficient and effective on EVERY PHONE (which this UI is certainly not)

The UI also needs to be customizable. I just got the e815 two weeks ago and I love the customizing options on it, its wonderful to be able to choose ...
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