Block service in car ??
My daughter is getting her drivers license this year and I want to be able to block her phone while the car is turned on.
Any suggestions?
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Any suggestions?
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I have no idea if it works or not.
I have no idea if it works or not.
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don't mean this in a bad way but I don't think it will come out any good way. But what your asking is like saying I want to install a breathalyzer on the car so it won't start until she breathes into it. I totally understand your dilemma but kids can find a way around any tech. The best thing is talk and trust them as you have to about drinking drugs and many other things that comes with teenagers.
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...or you would never dream of saying something so ignorant. I have a 5 year old and if I could make the wheels on his tricycle lock up unless he was wearing his helmet, I'd do it. Kids are way too much work to just let them kill themselves.
Teens don't understand distracted driving, and they won't until they've actually been on the road for a few year and watched some other idiot swerve out of their lane and almost kill someone. Why wait for that to be MY kid swerving off the road? I've seen reaching over to grab another French Fry cause thousands of dollars in property damage.
What the hell is $500 for a safe phone system compared to losing the life of a child- or some other innocent bystander? $500 is NOTHING when those are the s...
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Teens don't understand distracted driving, and they won't until they've actually been on the road for a few year and watched some other idiot swerve out of their lane and almost kill someone. Why wait for that to be MY kid swerving off the road? I've seen reaching over to grab another French Fry cause thousands of dollars in property damage.
What the hell is $500 for a safe phone system compared to losing the life of a child- or some other innocent bystander? $500 is NOTHING when those are the s...
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I do have kids 5 of them and I know that there is nothing you can do to stop them doing things but how you parent. Like I said why not keep them locked in the house so they don't have sex do drugs drink or whatever. You can't stop kids. Do we remember when we were kids? It is amazing how we forget things when we grow up like it never happened. Teach them talk to them but don't treat them like they are stupid and monitor or use tech to try and stop them and I do say try as they are smarter mostly then us when it comes to tech. Anyone ever live by a catholic school? I did and they were the worse when it comes to bad stuff because they were rebelling!
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Key2safe driving is on the right track, but it really only works on WinMo and Blackberry smartphones right now, so you'll have to pony up for a nicer handset for the kid.
They've got the right idea, that's for sure. They just need a better method for enabling passenger usage in equipped vehicles and some sort of method to prevent an unplug of the device from defeating the contraption.
They're getting close.
They've got the right idea, that's for sure. They just need a better method for enabling passenger usage in equipped vehicles and some sort of method to prevent an unplug of the device from defeating the contraption.
They're getting close.
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I have to say something along the same lines that someone else said. I'm really not sure this is the way to handle the situation. You should be able to talk to you daughter and make her understand the dangers and how you feel. If you can't even get that across to her then how is she responsible enough to drive?
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BWAAAHAHA!!! I have a 17yr old son who is a very responsible guy. He's a good driver and he knows (VERY clearly) our policy on using a phone while driving. With that being said, I'm not so naive as to believe he will never do it. Hell, adults know it's dangerous and stupid, yet I see MANY adults texting while driving. Everyone thinks the same way: "I know it's a dumb thing to do, but I'm a better driver than the average person." It's simply too big of a temptation for many people. I think those systems are a great idea. Anything that helps keep 'em alive and keeps them from killing someone else is a great thing. So yes...talk to your teens. Tell them over and over again how dangerous it is. But please don't be dumb enough to think t...
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Matt_a said: Everyone thinks the same way: "I know it's a dumb thing to do, but I'm a better driver than the average person." It's simply too big of a temptation for many people. I think those systems are a great idea. Anything that helps keep 'em alive and keeps them from killing someone else is a great thing. So yes...talk to your teens. Tell them over and over again how dangerous it is. But please don't be dumb enough to think that that's all you will need to do and they will always obey.
Great advice here Matt_a.
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Wait...I am very adept at texting and driving. I never take my eye off the road. I can't understand why everyone cannot do it. Sure every now and again you will get 'in' instead of 'go' but your friends get used to it.
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Azeron said:
Wait...I am very adept at texting and driving. I never take my eye off the road. I can't understand why everyone cannot do it. Sure every now and again you will get 'in' instead of 'go' but your friends get used to it.
Thanks for proving my point. Unless you're being sarcastic, you are a perfect example of someone who honestly thinks he can do it safely. That's why people die.
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ok so lets just install it on all phones! Why not install breathalyzers on all cars (they kill more then texting and talking) Lets come up with a microchip or something that monitors everything you do so it can prevent us all from being stupid. And why we are at it lets disband the country as we know it all on the basis of what we are getting at here. Do whatever it takes to stop people from doing things that they shouldn't. lets put a chip in all cars and when you exceed the speed limit it mails us a ticket or shuts off as speed kills too. Come on. I see your point but you can not CONTROL everything and it amazes me we still try. Its that false sense of security I guess!
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I'm not talking about ALL CARS. I'm talking about the cars driven by teens. They are (by far) the most dangerous group of drivers. They are easily distracted, they frequently make poor decisions, and they have a sense of invincibility. I worked full-time as an EMT on an ambulance for 6 years. I've seen it. I've pulled the bodies of 16 yr olds from tangled wreckage because they never thought it would happen to them. You talk as if these devices are taking away some personal freedom. Well guess what...my family should have the freedom to be out in public without getting killed by a kid who's texting his friends from behind the wheel. Once they become independent adults we can only hope that they will have enough common sense to make wi...
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look what I am saying is there are so many distractions for teens. Other people in the car, music. speed, weather, and phones and other idiots. But what you want to do is stop one aspect and leave others? You can't control everything and trying is futile. All tech can be worked around. Even companies like Microsoft can not stop people from stealing their software. They come up with something and someone comes up with a way around it. You can stop their one phone but what is to stop them from working around it or getting a cheap pre paid for text.
So what your saying it would just be easier to make the driving age 18. That would make you safe from these non adult drivers huh.
So what your saying it would just be easier to make the driving age 18. That would make you safe from these non adult drivers huh.
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So do you think it was silly or futile to put antilock brakes on cars? How about airbags? Seatbelts? After all, you can still get killed in a car crash, so that stuff was all useless...right? You said it yourself...teens have a million distractions. If there is a way to eliminate a few BIG ones, I think it's a good thing.
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your comparing safety features to control of your kids or people? Come on. Please really? More people die from drinking and driving then not having anti lock brakes but do we do anything about it? Nope not a thing. What about the idiots that have a dog on their lap and no law on that. Safety features that do not control a person are separate from things that physically stop people from doing things.
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I totally agree about the dog in the lap thing. And I also agree that drinking and driving is the biggest problem we have. Here is where you and I see things differently: I say a safety device is a safety device. Whether it's an airbag or a built-in Breathalyzer, the idea is to keep you safe. The devices we've been talking about go a step further in that they will also protect other people on the road. And as we all know, it's usually the innocent family that gets killed by the drunk or the texter.
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I agree with you on most all. my point is we just cant control everything and people that are hooked on say drinking to texting will find a way around those things. Its like a drug to them and they have to have it. So many people get caught up in the false sense of security. Most states already have laws about texting and they don't help. Just like speeding and drinking they won't stop until we as people start demanding heavy sentences. most get a slap on the wrist even if they kill someone. I just don't agree with trying to control people at all. If you start in the name of safety it grows and grows and then you ask how the hell did I get this chip in my arm with a gps and who knows what. We all know were we went in the name of national...
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wombough said:
my point is we just cant control everything
I must have missed the point where someone (other then you) started about even caring about trying to control everything.
You don't stop making cars because sometimes the brakes fail.
You don't stop making airplanes because sometimes the pilots are too busy playing on their laptops to remember to land.
You don't lift the embargoes on Iran just because you can't talk them into stopping uranium enrichment.
Your premise is one of foolishness and inaction in which only things which can be completely controlled should be even mildly regulated.
That's lunacy.
Do what you can with what you have. Take all reasonable precautions, and ma...
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by all means control things not people. sorry but we still live in a free world. We are talking about kids if you can't trust them in a car not to text don't give them a damn car in the first place. Only because if they can't not text then I am sure they can't not talk to others in the car and not pay attention. Blast music or just disregard traffic laws or drink and drive. And as I say why stop at one issue? Its called false sense of security!!
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wombough said:
And as I say why stop at one issue? Its called false sense of security!!
No. It's not called a false sense of security.
It's called "reducing risk" and it should be done at every possible juncture.
P.S. Master Shifu was right about the peaches.
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every possible juncture? then raise the driving age to 21 like drinking. That would reduce it as much as possible!
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wombough said:
every possible juncture? then raise the driving age to 21 like drinking. That would reduce it as much as possible!
No, that's not a solution. Humans develop wisdom from experience. Raising the driving age wouldn't help very much and there ARE considerations that need to be taken alongside safety concerns. How is an 18 yr old high school graduate supposed to find an job someplace if he can't buy a car to get there?
I'd wager that a 21 year old who's never been behind the wheel is just as dangerous as a 16 year old, 35 year old or 78 year old who has never driven a car. Years spent NOT driving don't help nearly as much as they hurt.
So, here you go again with your black-and-w...
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I was being sarcastic. The age isn't going to help nor is trying to control what they do. I love once again how we forget what we were like that age. My mom talking to me was far better then her trying to control what I did. Its human nature the more you control the more you rebel. Like I said earlier catholic school kids were the worse in this area in my growing up and I saw first hand what it does to kids. More education is the key not more control. Control doesn't show or explain why. My mom explained allot to me when I was growing up and I never tried any drugs or even a cigarette. Why because by the time it was all around me she already told me about it and its no good.
Anyway I bet you if they were able to get real statistics...
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Anyway I bet you if they were able to get real statistics...
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As Grandpa always said, "Locks only stop honest people."
The reality is that almost as many people will go out of their way to break a big lock as the will a small one, but for the vast majority of people a little "nudge" left as a constant reminder to do the right thing will usually be enough to prevent stupidity from taking over.
Heck, wearing a little ring labelled WWJD is reminder enough to keep most decent kids from doing something ridiculously stupid, so why not do it?
Sure, stupid kids will always do stupid things. Nothing will stop that. but you CAN convince normal kids not to do stupid things by setting up beacons to follow.
By your logic, there's no reason to put up guide barriers on the sides of Interstate Highways be...
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The reality is that almost as many people will go out of their way to break a big lock as the will a small one, but for the vast majority of people a little "nudge" left as a constant reminder to do the right thing will usually be enough to prevent stupidity from taking over.
Heck, wearing a little ring labelled WWJD is reminder enough to keep most decent kids from doing something ridiculously stupid, so why not do it?
Sure, stupid kids will always do stupid things. Nothing will stop that. but you CAN convince normal kids not to do stupid things by setting up beacons to follow.
By your logic, there's no reason to put up guide barriers on the sides of Interstate Highways be...
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You are again comparing something put up that has no impact on the control of people. Guard rails don't control your actions do they? But with anything we can agree to disagree its been fun but I leave for afgahanastan in 2 days and won't be back on much.
But this like the court ruling cops can put GPS on your car without you knowing and without a warrant is legal as long as it was not in your garage I believe is wrong. If we were talking about kids kids then I could see some controls but we are talking about 16 and up. By that time they should know right from wrong if you as a parent did you job.
But this like the court ruling cops can put GPS on your car without you knowing and without a warrant is legal as long as it was not in your garage I believe is wrong. If we were talking about kids kids then I could see some controls but we are talking about 16 and up. By that time they should know right from wrong if you as a parent did you job.
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