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Let the jokes begin.

PACWEST

Oct 12, 2009, 10:49 PM

Who needs a key? IPhone app unlocks and starts car

By Chris Woodyard, USA TODAY
A California company Tuesday will announce an iPhone application and car receiver that will enable users to lock, unlock and remotely start their car with the phone rather than the car's key fob.
The Viper SmartStart is the latest example of automotive electronics functions migrating into Apple iPhone and other smartphones, including turn-by-turn directions or locating the closest gas station.

Such ideas are a challenge for automakers and aftermarket suppliers for whom advanced auto electronics have been highly profitable.

"The days of these dedicated products we could put in our cars are rapidly coming to an end unless those products e
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Azeron

Oct 13, 2009, 12:11 AM
This is great. I am really intrigued by the Iphone, however I am tied to Verizon. Maybe one day...
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PACWEST

Oct 13, 2009, 1:43 AM

The SmartStart remote-start and lock app lets the owner be really remote. Mike Simmons, executive vice president of Directed Electronics, the parent of the maker, has demonstrated starting his car in California using an iPhone in Kansas City.

Just what everybody needs, the ability to start you're car from several states away. 😕
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Azeron

Oct 13, 2009, 9:29 AM
Needs? No. I would not go that far. I think it would be a nice feature to have though.
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navydave

Oct 13, 2009, 9:52 AM
The remote start application could change the whole meaning of a BUTT CALL.
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mellowlen62

Oct 14, 2009, 5:16 PM
......if you had service..... 🤣
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insider.

Oct 13, 2009, 11:17 AM
not good. if you LOST that Iphone....you may have just lost your car too ; (
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uscingulair

Oct 13, 2009, 12:12 PM
do you have to have reception to start your car? If so that could be a big problem
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PACWEST

Oct 13, 2009, 12:49 PM
uscingulair said:
do you have to have reception to start your car? If so that could be a big problem

Hence "Let the jokes begin." 🤣
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Azeron

Oct 13, 2009, 12:57 PM
The Iphone is not always going to be tied to AT&T's network. I think it is good to see it develop apps.
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Chromemember

Oct 13, 2009, 3:42 PM
Do you have no concept of how an auto starter actually works? Maybe you should drop the circa 1980 junk bucket your driving and step into the new millennium.

As with any auto starter the only thing that happens when you auto start your car is that the car TURNS ON. To actually drive the car the key must be in the ignition in the on position.
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insider.

Oct 13, 2009, 4:16 PM
; ) do *you* understand how auto theft works?
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greggmh123

Oct 14, 2009, 8:47 PM
How, pray tell, do you start a modern car that has fuel injection, etc, and ignition systems tied to particular transponders in the ignition keys, unless the key is in the ignition?

Cranking a vehicle is one thing and can be done with a screwdriver. Turning the ignition cylinder to the start and then the run position is not enough to get it to run, because the transponder in some keys (Fords since about 199😎 is required to initiale the fuel injection system.

The auto-start system wuold have to duplicate the function of the ignition key transponder.

Gregg
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GraGG

Oct 14, 2009, 8:56 PM
are you tryn to steal my name? 🤨
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greggmh123

Oct 16, 2009, 3:22 AM
Nope! I've had mine for 50 years. Thank my sister for the double-G at the end. My parents ran out of names, especially because they thought I was going to have an "innie" but had an "outtie" instead, and my sister picked the name.

Gregg (not short for Gregory)
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Chromemember

Oct 15, 2009, 9:24 AM
So I take it you have never used an auto starter either...
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greggmh123

Oct 16, 2009, 3:28 AM
No, I have not, but I worked on Ford ignition systems for 18 years.

That is why I said the auto-start device would have to duplicate the key transponder.

Simply cranking a post-1998 (somewhere around there, anyway) Ford and feeding power to the ignition system won't make it start. The coded key has to be in the ignition, or your auto-start device has to be able to emulate the coded key.

Gregg
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PACWEST

Oct 16, 2009, 5:06 AM
Enough with the technical jibber jabber. They copy the code and a ring with a wire goes around the ignition cylinder. The wire runs back to the auto start module, it all simulates a ‘key in’ condition.
Now on with the jokes, like I'd like to warm my car up but I don't have any service.
🤣 🤣
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greggmh123

Oct 18, 2009, 6:22 PM
There, that was easy, wasn't it?

You could have saved a lot of trouble by mentioning that in the first place, right after your "Do you have no concept of how an auto starter actually works?" comment.

Gregg
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f38urry

Oct 17, 2009, 10:13 AM
I have tried this and it works.

Using my cellular phone outside my locked vehicle, I call my wife many miles away. I ask her to hold her spare car key near her phone and press the Door Open button.

Voila! My car doors open remotely in response.

Several people that I work with tried it in my office parking lot. It worked with my Accord and with other vehicle brands, using various cellphones.

Of course this doesn't apply to starting the engine.
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