Just wait till the storm launches at $99 after rebate. 🙄 It'll eat as much in profit as the Iphone3G is in at&t's pocket.

yeah right and then verizon woke up and realized it was with a transvestite 🤣

The problem with ATT is that so many people got the Iphone and little else. I highly doubt Verizon will have the same problem. And Verizon's also always had the "required" data plan with PDA's, and they are still turning a profit.

If verizon's profits suffer, it will most likely come from buying Alltel, and restructuring it. I can imagine training everyone on "MyCircle" legacy plans will be rather expensive.

But Cingular bought AT&T in order to create the largest GSM network in the US. Verizon has no need to merge with Alltel. The proof is in all the markets that needed to be divested. It's very clear they're doing it just to become #1 again. They couldn't surpass AT&T by the end of 2007 like they had predicted. Solution: "Let's buy Alltel"
Voice in the corner says: "didn't we turn them down when they went for sale last year?"
Verizon: "yeah, but we need to pass AT&T no matter what!"

Anxiovert said:
But Cingular bought AT&T in order to create the largest GSM network in the US. Verizon has no need to merge with Alltel. The proof is in all the markets that needed to be divested. It's very clear they're doing it just to become #1 again. They couldn't surpass AT&T by the end of 2007 like they had predicted. Solution: "Let's buy Alltel"
Voice in the corner says: "didn't we turn them down when they went for sale last year?"
Verizon: "yeah, but we need to pass AT&T no matter what!"

I see what you are seeing, but look at the phonescoop news archives, Alltel's been trying to sell itself for a while now.

See this link: https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=21 96

Verizon decided to b...
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Yes they had to divest some, duh! but they shored up massive coverage they didn't have! Do we need to break out the maps again?, let the hand holding begin.

Anxiovert said:
But Cingular bought AT&T in order to create the largest GSM network in the US. Verizon has no need to merge with Alltel. The proof is in all the markets that needed to be divested. It's very clear they're doing it just to become #1 again. They couldn't surpass AT&T by the end of 2007 like they had predicted. Solution: "Let's buy Alltel"
Voice in the corner says: "didn't we turn them down when they went for sale last year?"
Verizon: "yeah, but we need to pass AT&T no matter what!"

Verizon pays alltel more money in roaming than any other competitor. There is one reason

Alltel is CDMA and only overlaps in like 30 % of the areas if that. There is two reasons.

Alltel is already on goo...
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not ALL the roaming, but doesn't have to pay much anymore except in the few places there is only sprint

Go to Verizonwireless.com, highlight the plans bar and select coverage map. This will bring up the default coverage map which is the Voice and Messaging map which includes areas where one can expect to be able to make and receive calls and send and receive texts. Now select the Enhanced Services Map bubble. This will show you the portion of the country that is actually covered by Verizon towers. This is not nearly so robust. The light green areas are extended network areas. Verizon really needed to fill in those extended network areas because features such as picture messaging, national access, mobile web, Vznavigator, chaperone and Mobile email may not be offered in extended areas. I say "may not" because with the new Nationwide plan...
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Verizon Wireless 2009 said:
Evilhomer,

You really are a bloody troll.

AT&T is currently number one in subscribers because when it was Cingular it acquired the old AT&T Wireless and became number one in 2004.

Verizon Wireless is now doing the same thing that AT&T did four years go.

You are a bloody idiot that CAN'T read!

I asked if it was really that impressive when ANY carrier buys their number one spot versus doing it on their own merit. Why don't you take a second to have someone explain a post to you before shooting off your ignorant mouth?

And since you need things explained to you, AT&T was forced by government regulation to sell off it's wireless division to Cingular. When those rest...
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evilhomer said:

And since you need things explained to you, AT&T was forced by government regulation to sell off it's wireless division to Cingular. When those restrictions where lifted, AT&T bought back basically most of it's own customers.

evilhomer, you are not getting it:

AT&T (old Ma Bell) SPUN off AT&T Wireless in July 2001. AT&T Wireless was its own company until John Zeglis ran the sucker into the ground forcing them to put themselves up for sale in early 2004 AFTER the FCC reamed them about their disastrous handling of porting numbers out.

Cingular won the bid of AT&T Wireless and took over in 2004.

The government never told them to sell to Cingular, though AT&T was under pressure in 2...
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The New ATnT Wireless said:

evilhomer said:

And since you need things explained to you, AT&T was forced by government regulation to sell off it's wireless division to Cingular. When those restrictions where lifted, AT&T bought back basically most of it's own customers.

evilhomer, you are not getting it:

AT&T (old Ma Bell) SPUN off AT&T Wireless in July 2001. AT&T Wireless was its own company until John Zeglis ran the sucker into the ground forcing them to put themselves up for sale in early 2004 AFTER the FCC reamed them about their disastrous handling of porting numbers out.

Cingular won the bid of AT&T Wireless and took over in 2004.

The government never told them to sell

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why do you want a storm when you have your beloved iphone?

Why not? Why not try it out so I can see first hand how it compares? I'm doing that now with the Bold. I works as the VP of IT for a bank so I can get away with carrying two or three devices if I choose.

That way, when I talk about the likes and dislikes of a device, I can do it from first hand experience. I can't say that the Storm isn't as good, or is better than an iPhone or any other device if I haven't used it.

I've seen people posting that the Storm is the end of be all and they've already made up their minds that it's better than an iPhone without using either. In my opinion, those posters are entitled to post, but should be ignored since they are offering opinions on not one, but in many cases, two device that they haven't ow...
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It's not you that is a troll or not a troll, it's they idea of them, and the idea of fanboyism.

Everyone has a bias, like it or not, you have it. It's the constant back and forth of people bringing up stupid arguments to ridicule or bring down verizon out of pure, not needed hatred. Anytime someone stands up to someone in here about something with their own opinion, the response is

"Drink some more kool aid" or "God such a fanboy" or whatever. No one I have ever met in this forum has brought up completely logical complaints against verizon, period.

This is my first time on phone scoop in months so I don't know you from this or that, I'm just saying most verizon people that post here have done for awhile, and have a bitter taste i...
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rjsumthin said:
It's not you that is a troll or not a troll, it's they idea of them, and the idea of fanboyism.

Everyone has a bias, like it or not, you have it. It's the constant back and forth of people bringing up stupid arguments to ridicule or bring down verizon out of pure, not needed hatred. Anytime someone stands up to someone in here about something with their own opinion, the response is

"Drink some more kool aid" or "God such a fanboy" or whatever. No one I have ever met in this forum has brought up completely logical complaints against verizon, period.

This is my first time on phone scoop in months so I don't know you from this or that, I'm just saying most verizon people that post here have done f

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budscoutmaster419 said:
and how did at&t get all their customers? buy another network like Dobson / cellular one? never... 🙄

correction...

Can't my entire family is with verizon. Why would I leave a great network for an inferior one? you shouldn't read so heavy into ppl statement, i just said their phones suck, and they do! My Nextel phone rules all. peace

Cellenator said:
Can't my entire family is with verizon. Why would I leave a great network for an inferior one? you shouldn't read so heavy into ppl statement, i just said their phones suck, and they do! My Nextel phone rules all. peace

Verizon does need to get better phones.

I did find one I really liked a lot, but it is soon being discontinued.

People need to remember one thing, Verizon doesn't "make" phones, they just supply and sell them and in turn operate the network. I wish Verizon would have better phones but the phone manufactuers need to grow a brain and make the phones better. I've noticed that manufactuers like cramming all the high-tech into GSM phones (and GSM sucks) and they leave CDMA short handed. I think CDMA phones have better external screens while alot of GSM phones are left with something basic or even monochrome, ugh! But the main screen resolution, RAM, processor speed etc...GSM phones are loaded. Look at the RAZR 2 for example. Like computers, cell phones will work better if they are built better. And as much as I like Verizon they should have left the...
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evilhomer said:
That is applicable to AT&T even with the merger because they include their Global coverage. Worldwide, GSM has far more coverage than CDMA. CDMA is very widespread in the US but not as much is Europe and Asia. When they claim more coverage, they mean worldwide coverage.

Much more? Try 5 countries more, we are at 195 and they are at 200 for total coverage globally. With the dropping of the Storm we are going to be able to cover people in more countries than ATT and that will lead to the end of another bogus campaign.

The majority of people think that campaign has to do with their coverage in the US, most dont care about coverage globally. Once they find out how bad coverage is with at...
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IamTheGodfather said:
The majority of people think that campaign has to do with their coverage in the US, most dont care about coverage globally.

True...how many regulars really travel to Spain or Denmark (or wherever that "Merger" is taking place)

It is factually true advertising, but not truthful. The international locations are NOT at&t's native network, as that is the impression they are trying to give.

Meh...it's just advertising...

llama said:

IamTheGodfather said:
The majority of people think that campaign has to do with their coverage in the US, most dont care about coverage globally.

True...how many regulars really travel to Spain or Denmark (or wherever that "Merger" is taking place)

It is factually true advertising, but not truthful. The international locations are NOT at&t's native network, as that is the impression they are trying to give.

Meh...it's just advertising...

It is. AT&T is just using it to attract people. But honestly, I've had them and now I have Verizon and Verizon has a better network as far as quality goes. AT&T's is ok, but if they don't put more effort into improvi...
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Welcome to verizon wom!

Thanks. I think it will be good.

Yep they pay big bucks for ad campaigns and they do their homework, but a year or so back Consumer Reports ripped apart AT&T's "fewest dropped calls" claim...I mean that was a bit much considering they probably have the MOST dropped calls...