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Trolls and the RIM Blackberry Thunder

tnt2k1

Jul 16, 2008, 10:39 AM
It's given that everyone respects RIM's products, especially the Blackberries. Not once have people truly bashed on Blackberries - they may discuss some pros and cons here and there about each device, but that's really the extent of it.

I've noticed when word got out that VZW will be the initial exclusive carrier for the Thunder, all of the trolls came out and started knocking on this upcoming RIM product. Tell me, where were you guys before when RIM came out with other products? Why weren't you trolling on them? Why did it take an exclusive VZW device to start bashing on RIM all of the sudden?

Looking at RIM's track record, can you truly say that the Thunder will flop? Please tell me the reason you're hating on it is because you ...
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crackberry

Jul 16, 2008, 1:10 PM
hey. if at&t doesn't improve coverage at my house i will probably jump ship to verizon for good for the thunder... no hate comin from me.
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AvgJoe

Jul 16, 2008, 1:20 PM
tnt2k1 said:
It's given that everyone respects RIM's products, especially the Blackberries. Not once have people truly bashed on Blackberries - they may discuss some pros and cons here and there about each device, but that's really the extent of it.

I've noticed when word got out that VZW will be the initial exclusive carrier for the Thunder, all of the trolls came out and started knocking on this upcoming RIM product. Tell me, where were you guys before when RIM came out with other products? Why weren't you trolling on them? Why did it take an exclusive VZW device to start bashing on RIM all of the sudden?

Looking at RIM's track record, can you truly say that the Thunder will flop? Please tell me the reason yo
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60dollarcarcharger

Jul 16, 2008, 1:42 PM
funny how you felt called out by the subject of his thread (Troll)
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cwcanty

Jul 16, 2008, 1:52 PM
he knows what he is, lol
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60dollarcarcharger

Jul 16, 2008, 2:05 PM
true... i'm glad im not the only one that found it ironic
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AvgJoe

Jul 16, 2008, 4:25 PM
60dollarcarcharger said:
funny how you felt called out by the subject of his thread (Troll)

Glad to provide some humor in your life...YW
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Celling_it

Jul 16, 2008, 2:55 PM
It is amazing to me that you feel such a need to bad mouth VZW. They are time and time again rated as the best carrier in the country by independent testing and surveys.

As far as the "crippled phone" argument that is so 2 years ago. Most new VZW phones are fully functional. I know the next thing you are gonna say is soemthing about the GUI. Well I will tell you that a large majority of people thing that a standard GUI is awesome. They appreciate the ease of transition between manufacturers. Also now most of the phones come with some other options if you do not like the standard VZW GUI.

Regarding the GUI why would one not want it to be standard? one of the dumbest things I have ever seen was having the service and having to...
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AvgJoe

Jul 16, 2008, 4:26 PM
Celling_it said:
It is amazing to me that you feel such a need to bad mouth VZW. They are time and time again rated as the best carrier in the country by independent testing and surveys.

As far as the "crippled phone" argument that is so 2 years ago. Most new VZW phones are fully functional. I know the next thing you are gonna say is soemthing about the GUI. Well I will tell you that a large majority of people thing that a standard GUI is awesome. They appreciate the ease of transition between manufacturers. Also now most of the phones come with some other options if you do not like the standard VZW GUI.

Regarding the GUI why would one not want it to be standard? one of the dumbest things I have ever seen
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crackberry

Jul 16, 2008, 3:03 PM
AvgJoe said:
tnt2k1 said:
It's given that everyone respects RIM's products, especially the Blackberries. Not once have people truly bashed on Blackberries - they may discuss some pros and cons here and there about each device, but that's really the extent of it.

I've noticed when word got out that VZW will be the initial exclusive carrier for the Thunder, all of the trolls came out and started knocking on this upcoming RIM product. Tell me, where were you guys before when RIM came out with other products? Why weren't you trolling on them? Why did it take an exclusive VZW device to start bashing on RIM all of the sudden?

Looking at RIM's track record, can you truly say that the Thunder will fl
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ArmySF

Jul 16, 2008, 3:46 PM
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AvgJoe

Jul 16, 2008, 4:29 PM
crackberry said:
AvgJoe said:
tnt2k1 said:
It's given that everyone respects RIM's products, especially the Blackberries. Not once have people truly bashed on Blackberries - they may discuss some pros and cons here and there about each device, but that's really the extent of it.

I've noticed when word got out that VZW will be the initial exclusive carrier for the Thunder, all of the trolls came out and started knocking on this upcoming RIM product. Tell me, where were you guys before when RIM came out with other products? Why weren't you trolling on them? Why did it take an exclusive VZW device to start bashing on RIM all of the sudden?

Looking at RIM's track record, can y
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crackberry

Jul 16, 2008, 4:47 PM
AvgJoe said:
crackberry said:
AvgJoe said:
tnt2k1 said:
It's given that everyone respects RIM's products, especially the Blackberries. Not once have people truly bashed on Blackberries - they may discuss some pros and cons here and there about each device, but that's really the extent of it.

I've noticed when word got out that VZW will be the initial exclusive carrier for the Thunder, all of the trolls came out and started knocking on this upcoming RIM product. Tell me, where were you guys before when RIM came out with other products? Why weren't you trolling on them? Why did it take an exclusive VZW device to start bashing on RIM all of the sudden?

Loo
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AvgJoe

Jul 16, 2008, 10:54 PM
crackberry said:
AvgJoe said:
crackberry said:
AvgJoe said:
tnt2k1 said:
It's given that everyone respects RIM's products, especially the Blackberries. Not once have people truly bashed on Blackberries - they may discuss some pros and cons here and there about each device, but that's really the extent of it.

I've noticed when word got out that VZW will be the initial exclusive carrier for the Thunder, all of the trolls came out and started knocking on this upcoming RIM product. Tell me, where were you guys before when RIM came out with other products? Why weren't you trolling on them? Why did it take an exclusive VZW device to start bas
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crackberry

Jul 16, 2008, 11:29 PM
AvgJoe said:
crackberry said:
AvgJoe said:
crackberry said:
AvgJoe said:
tnt2k1 said:
It's given that everyone respects RIM's products, especially the Blackberries. Not once have people truly bashed on Blackberries - they may discuss some pros and cons here and there about each device, but that's really the extent of it.

I've noticed when word got out that VZW will be the initial exclusive carrier for the Thunder, all of the trolls came out and started knocking on this upcoming RIM product. Tell me, where were you guys before when RIM came out with other products? Why weren't you trolling on them? Why did it take an
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AvgJoe

Jul 17, 2008, 11:24 AM
thank you for a well thought out and non defensive response. Obviously you do not work for Verizon.
I applaud Verizon's business model as well as Apples. They use people's fear of technology to control them and their pocketbooks. I mean really a decision NOT to include a removable batter in a phone is not an engineering decision.

I know people choose flash over substance in this country. Thats why Honda release their best bikes in Europe and the far east. Thats why people will pay too much for too little. Thats why this country is in economic trouble. People make stupid financial decisions helped along by the corporations who prey on their egos and fears. II mean really how smart is a financial choice to pay upwards of 30% or more to pro...
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Sgt_Joker

Jul 17, 2008, 11:35 AM
Jesus Christ is this a cell phone forum or a place for you to blabber about your views of how to live life 🙄 go away troll your attention seeking is getting really bad.
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tnt2k1

Jul 17, 2008, 11:57 AM
So basically ... you speak out against the following companies -

General Atomics
General Dynamics
Raytheon
BAE Systems
Lockheed Martin
Northrop Grumman
SAIC
Boeing

Because they all use the American fear indirectly to sell their products/services.
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AvgJoe

Jul 17, 2008, 4:09 PM
tnt2k1 said:
So basically ... you speak out against the following companies -

General Atomics
General Dynamics
Raytheon
BAE Systems
Lockheed Martin
Northrop Grumman
SAIC
Boeing

Because they all use the American fear indirectly to sell their products/services.


WOW.....What logic you enjoy there. Im gonna go out on a limb here and say you did not see seek a formal education past HS and got a job selling phones.

Those companies provide a whole lot more than .....You know? Its not my job to educate the fundamentals........Read a book once in awhile.
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tnt2k1

Jul 17, 2008, 5:30 PM
Actually, I work for one of those companies doing contracts and subcontracts thank you very much :-)
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AvgJoe

Jul 18, 2008, 10:27 AM
tnt2k1 said:
Actually, I work for one of those companies doing contracts and subcontracts thank you very much :-)

Well have a long talk with the janitor in the cafeteria....
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tnt2k1

Jul 18, 2008, 1:46 PM
haha funny guy here.

But in all seriousness, you should know this though. Money is made where people are lazy and what things done for them. Hell, people can run their own regressional/forecasting analysis ... people can design their own combustion engines ... people can walk instead of fly ... but why do all of those things when you can pay someone to do it for you?

That's what it comes down to ... why pay to relearn a service or to do something on a cell phone when you can pay to have it already on there and automated for you? And don't say that this world is going to hell because of this ... this world is getting better. Trust me - I know you would rather live in this era than back in the 1700s when you had to do everything your...
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AvgJoe

Jul 18, 2008, 10:17 PM
tnt2k1 said:
haha funny guy here.

But in all seriousness, you should know this though. Money is made where people are lazy and what things done for them. Hell, people can run their own regressional/forecasting analysis ... people can design their own combustion engines ... people can walk instead of fly ... but why do all of those things when you can pay someone to do it for you?

That's what it comes down to ... why pay to relearn a service or to do something on a cell phone when you can pay to have it already on there and automated for you? And don't say that this world is going to hell because of this ... this world is getting better. Trust me - I know you would rather live in this era than back in the 1700s w
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AvgJoe

Jul 17, 2008, 4:05 PM
Sgt_Joker said:
Jesus Christ is this a cell phone forum or a place for you to blabber about your views of how to live life 🙄 go away troll your attention seeking is getting really bad.

Hey Sparky....You see the name on the right of the thread heading post on the message list page?

Good...Now...

OK When you see "Avgjoe" Just pass it right up...Like do when I see CNN channel surfing. ITs easy really...or do you need some company to do it for you?

No need to get yourself all worked up. Im sure many are passing it right up. Try it. You might lve a few years longer.
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Sgt_Joker

Jul 17, 2008, 4:29 PM
You are only here to troll and get everyone all worked up, you take pleasure in it for some sick reason. You jump into every thread with negativity just to seek attention. You don't have verizon, and are only here to start flame wars. You constantly brag about what a rich life you lead, but all you do is post negative crap in the verizon forum. Now I know you don't care what anyone thinks of you ( so you say) but i believe you are a lonely old man whose wife doesn't put out any more. Get a life Joe, stop fu(king up this forum with your bs.
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AvgJoe

Jul 18, 2008, 10:22 AM
Sgt_Joker said:
You are only here to troll and get everyone all worked up, you take pleasure in it for some sick reason. You jump into every thread with negativity just to seek attention. You don't have verizon, and are only here to start flame wars. You constantly brag about what a rich life you lead, but all you do is post negative crap in the verizon forum. Now I know you don't care what anyone thinks of you ( so you say) but i believe you are a lonely old man whose wife doesn't put out any more. Get a life Joe, stop fu(king up this forum with your bs.


Rich? LOL Since when is being debt free "rich"? LOL I tell the truth my truth just like you and every other participant of a public forum.If you cannot ...
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The New ATnT Wireless

Jul 17, 2008, 10:44 PM
You are funny. I love how you get people so worked up. I know you love it too, otherwise you would have quit while you were ahead.
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adilus

Jul 17, 2008, 6:45 AM
AvgJoe said:
You conveniently forget Millions of GSM customers all around the world figured that stuff out all buy themselves!Why am I not surprised by the arrogance and short sightedness of your response.



The rest of the world didn't figure out anything. GSM was mandated in Europe because of national barriers. They chose the SIM card option so that Europeans wouldn't have to deal with each country's own cell network.

According to you:

Verizon Wireless: Socialist

Fact:

GSM: Forced Standard by Socialist countries

Yes Joe, most of Europe, is socialist. The irony abounds from you.
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tnt2k1

Jul 17, 2008, 12:00 PM
adilus said:
AvgJoe said:
You conveniently forget Millions of GSM customers all around the world figured that stuff out all buy themselves!Why am I not surprised by the arrogance and short sightedness of your response.



The rest of the world didn't figure out anything. GSM was mandated in Europe because of national barriers. They chose the SIM card option so that Europeans wouldn't have to deal with each country's own cell network.

According to you:

Verizon Wireless: Socialist

Fact:

GSM: Forced Standard by Socialist countries

Yes Joe, most of Europe, is socialist. The irony abounds from you.


I would have to say that adilus is right. It is because of...
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adilus

Jul 17, 2008, 2:31 PM
I'm exactly right.

It's because the US has a free market that there are CDMA, GSM, HSPDA, EVDO, HSUPA, iDen, etc. To call Verizon Socialist because they do what they do when there are other choices that you can choose is completely asinine. If we were locked to Verizon wireless because that was the only choice, he would have a point.
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adilus

Jul 17, 2008, 2:36 PM
AvgJoe said:
You conveniently forget Millions of GSM customers all around the world figured that stuff out all buy themselves!Why am I not surprised by the arrogance and short sightedness of your response.



Also, just to add a bit more of fact and reality to the fallacy of your argument. In developing countries that were not mandated to use GSM, such as Brasil, India and Korea, all chose CDMA because it is a much more developed technology with better load balancing, higher traffic capacity and greater use of bandwidth. They also chose the CDMA technology because it cannot be listened in on over the air. Can you hear me now?... Only on GSM with a $150.00 receiver from Radio Shack.
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adilus

Jul 16, 2008, 3:41 PM
AvgJoe said:
Thats because whenever Verizon gets an "exclusive" phone it turns out to be exclusively crippled as compared to the same phone which is why its "exclusive" to VErizon in the first place.
Exclusive meaning "different" not new.


I told you to shut the **** up inbred.
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LordObento

Jul 16, 2008, 3:47 PM
it's simple, people hated on the iPhone before it came out.

You had:
AT&T Sucks
Verizon Passed on this
No MMS
No video
No Cut N Paste
No Business e-mail support
No Stereo BT
EDGE speeds (1st Gen)

Now it's Verizon's time
Verizon Sucks
Verizon Cripples
Commie UI (although it doesn't go on the Blackberry, people still say it)
iPhone Clone
No one wants a Blackberry without a keypad
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ATTGuyNY

Jul 17, 2008, 1:49 AM
I am actually really dissapointed that the phone is going to be VZW exclusive, not because its with Verizon, but because it is not going to be on Sprint. My wife will be pleased though and probably want one.

I personally love the RIM product and firmly believe that VZW service is the best (both coverage and customer service). The only thing I dont like about the situation is that it adds fuel to the fire for those VZW sales reps that have the "our sh*t doesn"t stink attitude." I think if those Verizon sales reps would lose those attitudes and realize that other carriers offer some quality services/products as well then VZW would probably rule the world.
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cwcanty

Jul 17, 2008, 8:54 AM
I love how everyone hates on certain companies rep. The vzw reps in my area have all been pretty solid. There are bad cell reps for every carrier. just gotta get lucky and hope that your area is better than most.

And really, as long as they can work a cash register I really dont ever talk to reps, I usually go in there with enough background info to make an informed decision.
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izzymac83

Jul 17, 2008, 9:54 AM
That what people need to realize before shopping for a new device, research the specification and the pros and cons; people forget the sales reps number one priority is sale a product, and some might even lie out of his/her a** off to get the sale, so people shouldn't be surprise that they got screwed over by a sales reps. I have seen it being done too. That the reason I do my research first than shop, can't be screwed if you are knowledgeable before hand.
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IamTheGodfather

Jul 20, 2008, 9:22 AM
my **** dont stink. I am the best because I was trained to be so. and my paychecks and NPS scores back this up as well.
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Crapbag

Jul 17, 2008, 5:59 PM
I haven't been trolling. If anything paint me green, I wish at&t was getting it. 😢
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