Sprint & Verizon Roam on Eachothers Networks?
I have a friend that I've been traveling with a lot lately that has Sprint and I have Verizon. When ever we were in areas of spotty coverage it seemed when my phone showed "extended network" his Sprint phone showed he was on the Sprint network and when ever my phone showed it was using the Verizon network his phone showed he was roaming.
So, do Sprint and Verizon roam on eachothers networks? If so, wouldn't that mean the coverage is the same on either provider?
So, do Sprint and Verizon roam on eachothers networks? If so, wouldn't that mean the coverage is the same on either provider?
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Ok...using verifiable facts, sell me on Sprint being "bad very very bad very very bad"
Please no opinions...
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Easy they had their credit rating dropped to 'junk' status 😲
The stockholders are scared chitless because their stocked has dropped to a record low of five bucks, now it's approx like 8 bucks.
Last quarter Sprint lost over 1+ millions customers, and it has been this way for many many quarters. The facts our Sprint horrible customer service and network are driving them to better providers.
Fact sprint has made the top ten list for providing the worst customers service.
Fact your sprint bill will be screwed up.
Google sprint financial troubles.
Go to sprintusers.com and see all the pissed off people over there.
I understand you want to save some money, I've made the same mistake. Stick with Verizon it's worth the extra m...
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The stockholders are scared chitless because their stocked has dropped to a record low of five bucks, now it's approx like 8 bucks.
Last quarter Sprint lost over 1+ millions customers, and it has been this way for many many quarters. The facts our Sprint horrible customer service and network are driving them to better providers.
Fact sprint has made the top ten list for providing the worst customers service.
Fact your sprint bill will be screwed up.
Google sprint financial troubles.
Go to sprintusers.com and see all the pissed off people over there.
I understand you want to save some money, I've made the same mistake. Stick with Verizon it's worth the extra m...
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Re the stock issues, you know it's interesting, when I look at Sprint's stock historically compared to Verizon's I see the SAME pattern with their graphs, which are more trends than anything else. Then sometime around 2003 I see Sprints stock JUMPING and Verizon's staying pretty flat til about late last year at that time Sprint took a dive and Verizon stayed pretty flat...
That aside, junk? I ask you - what in the heck does that matter if I can get similar wireless service for 50% less? Why would I care what the company financial profile is? Sooo, lets say worst case scenario, they start to go belly up, close stores etc...service starts to suffer etc. I switch back to Verizon or someone else and I seriously doubt if issues were that sever...
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That aside, junk? I ask you - what in the heck does that matter if I can get similar wireless service for 50% less? Why would I care what the company financial profile is? Sooo, lets say worst case scenario, they start to go belly up, close stores etc...service starts to suffer etc. I switch back to Verizon or someone else and I seriously doubt if issues were that sever...
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🤣 I loved how you addressed the millions upon millions of x sprint customers leaving in droves 🙂
Just drive right by all those screaming warning signs, hope it works out for you! 🙄
Just drive right by all those screaming warning signs, hope it works out for you! 🙄
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Actually I didn't address that, you are right...you know why? Because I'm quite sure Sprints recent changes are going to fix that problem. See my most recent post in the VZW forum about "It's the network"
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Well I'm glad you think that little pesky everyone is jumping overboard from the sinking ship problem will be clear up. 🙄
Welcome aboard Sir right this way to crappy customers service and inferior network.
Welcome aboard Sir right this way to crappy customers service and inferior network.
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wow dude....you get the verizon nutswinger of the year award.
so you dont like sprint, who cares?
maybe he would get good coverage in his area, i know i do. maybe saving that $10-$30 a month is a big deal. who cares about other peoples experiences? not everyone is the same.
yea sprint doesnt have a good track record right now, but most of the things you pointed out have no affect on his service. the only thing that would is the crappy CS, and thats only if he needs to call them.
get your head out of the sand and lay off the kool-aid
so you dont like sprint, who cares?
maybe he would get good coverage in his area, i know i do. maybe saving that $10-$30 a month is a big deal. who cares about other peoples experiences? not everyone is the same.
yea sprint doesnt have a good track record right now, but most of the things you pointed out have no affect on his service. the only thing that would is the crappy CS, and thats only if he needs to call them.
get your head out of the sand and lay off the kool-aid
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Its not like I'm making up these numbers. The second quarter results are do out soon, Sprint lost 1+ MILLION people last quarter 😳 That's crazy! and something to consider when signing up with a carrier!
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Well I just took a quick look at things and found usually VZW is adding 2 million a quarter, last quarter it was 1.5, so 500,000 lost there and then top that with whatever the numbers are who actually LEFT VZW last quarter...
Obviously VZW still out performs Sprint and others with Churn, but they ARE SLIPPING QUICK whether you care to admit it or not and I suspect the primary reason is pricing.
Obviously VZW still out performs Sprint and others with Churn, but they ARE SLIPPING QUICK whether you care to admit it or not and I suspect the primary reason is pricing.
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the numbers that you mention is NET adds, that means counting the people VZW lost, they actually increased their total POST-PAID subscriber base by 1.5 million - unlike ATT, VZW doesn't include prepay in those numbers.
Please post which quarters VZW "usually" adds 2 million customers. Also I want to see a link with that.
Then when you're done with that learn how to check your posts before you submit them or just don't comment on crap that you don't know about.
Please post which quarters VZW "usually" adds 2 million customers. Also I want to see a link with that.
Then when you're done with that learn how to check your posts before you submit them or just don't comment on crap that you don't know about.
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Actually it would be saving $100/month, that's why we're switching...two unlimited lines.
We've just paid and paid and paid with VZW and while the customer service has always been exceptional, it was not a point we utilized enough to make it worth an extra $100/month and the coverage in this area seems to be pretty good with Sprint...So...
We've just paid and paid and paid with VZW and while the customer service has always been exceptional, it was not a point we utilized enough to make it worth an extra $100/month and the coverage in this area seems to be pretty good with Sprint...So...
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I know plenty of people that have them now that have nothing bad to say about them when I've asked.
Maybe their $99.99 all you can eat everything plans is just what they need to change the direction you and others here seem to think is bad...
Maybe their $99.99 all you can eat everything plans is just what they need to change the direction you and others here seem to think is bad...
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By the way, I looked at that website, didn't have time to read it, just the "my story" part and frankly, that guy was a moron. How do you overpay $1,500/month as a technology director and keep your job? Key word in that description was "we are a very trusting people" ... Idiots is more like it.
I can see *maqybe* 90 days of overpayment at the MOST before realizing it, but 3 freakin years? What a nit! A company I recently worked for was paying Qwest $1,000/month for a T1 that at the time they got it was a reasonable price. Times changed, area technology changed etc and there were other companies a few years later that could provide the same service for half the cost...resolution, we switched. End of story...Qwest didn't over charge us for...
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I can see *maqybe* 90 days of overpayment at the MOST before realizing it, but 3 freakin years? What a nit! A company I recently worked for was paying Qwest $1,000/month for a T1 that at the time they got it was a reasonable price. Times changed, area technology changed etc and there were other companies a few years later that could provide the same service for half the cost...resolution, we switched. End of story...Qwest didn't over charge us for...
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You sound like you will fit right in on the sprint forum, always someone else fault! 🤣
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You replied to a post where I was VERY SPECIFICALLY SAYING people need to take responsibility for their own stupidity and then replied to it with an accusation that I am saying it's always someone elses fault...
Wow, you really are a complete moron.
I'll ignore your posts from here on out, ain't worth the effort to try to have a conversation with someone not capable of reason.
Wow, you really are a complete moron.
I'll ignore your posts from here on out, ain't worth the effort to try to have a conversation with someone not capable of reason.
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The phones have a PRL loaded into them. This helps them decide which alternate networks to use. Carriers usually have roaming agreements with each other in non-overlapping zones. So yes and no. Verizon phones roam onto Sprint's network outside the zone (not just if there is poor signal within the zone) and vice versa. Sometimes they split the cost of a tower and each have their own antenna on it.
A lot of people confuse this. If both carriers cover the same zone, the phones don't roam onto those sections of the network.
A lot of people confuse this. If both carriers cover the same zone, the phones don't roam onto those sections of the network.
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While I appreciat the response, that didn't really answer my question?
I've no clue what a PRL is?
I realize if the phone is using it's own carriers network and the signal is low it's not going to switch to another carrier network, but if the phone has no signal in say a dead spot in the middle of an otherwise well covered urban area (hey, it happens) would it THEN use the other carrier network? Or is it only a situation where say Verizon covers Molalla, Sprint doesn't so when Sprint phones are in Molalla they will use the Verizon network and vice versa - ... ?
I've no clue what a PRL is?
I realize if the phone is using it's own carriers network and the signal is low it's not going to switch to another carrier network, but if the phone has no signal in say a dead spot in the middle of an otherwise well covered urban area (hey, it happens) would it THEN use the other carrier network? Or is it only a situation where say Verizon covers Molalla, Sprint doesn't so when Sprint phones are in Molalla they will use the Verizon network and vice versa - ... ?
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PRL = Preferred Roaming List
It has the SID (System ID) and CID (Carrier ID) code programmed in a list. So, to answer your question:
If the carriers have an overlapping network the overlap will not be in the PRL. This means that even with no bars of signal, it will not pick up the other carriers network.
If the carriers do NOT have an overlapping networking and they have an agreement to roam within that non-overlap then the phone goes through its preferred list to find a signal (strong or weak, doesn't matter).
Basically, don't expect Verizon to roam off of Sprint or vice versa in the zones they cover themselves (you can usually know what zones are self-covered by looking at prepaid service maps).
It has the SID (System ID) and CID (Carrier ID) code programmed in a list. So, to answer your question:
If the carriers have an overlapping network the overlap will not be in the PRL. This means that even with no bars of signal, it will not pick up the other carriers network.
If the carriers do NOT have an overlapping networking and they have an agreement to roam within that non-overlap then the phone goes through its preferred list to find a signal (strong or weak, doesn't matter).
Basically, don't expect Verizon to roam off of Sprint or vice versa in the zones they cover themselves (you can usually know what zones are self-covered by looking at prepaid service maps).
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while mostly true, this isnt always the case.
my sprint phone will switch to VZW roaming in sprint native zones if i have no sprint signal
my sprint phone will switch to VZW roaming in sprint native zones if i have no sprint signal
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liquidfire said:
while mostly true, this isnt always the case.
my sprint phone will switch to VZW roaming in sprint native zones if i have no sprint signal
Sprint (especially affiliates) have their PRL's programmed to recognize certain SID's. If there's a SID that Sprint doesn't want people to roam on, then they have to have it added to the list, and mark it NEG, just to keep people from using that SID. Verizon's PRL (outside of AC1, LDC, & NSR) is programmed to only recognize the SID's in the PRL. If it's not in the Verizon PRL, then it won't see other other network, whereas older Verizon PRL's from AC1, LDC, & NSR plans allowed roaming. Those PRL's only saw what could be roamed on, and with the exce...
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that would make sense why their service is so bad at my house, Verizon works there though but if you look at a sprint map they have service where i live but you would need to sit on my roof to get it
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Keep in mind if you roam to much with sprint they will kick you off their network!!! Verizon will not 🙂
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Verizon does kick you off for too much roaming. I personally know people who were for that very reason. They plainly state so in their t&c's.
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bs you personally know 🙄 says the biggest sprint fan boy who wants to paint his block yellow and black. whatever
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And your sophmoric cynicism obviously casts overwhelming doubt on their less than stellar defense.
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Cellenator said:
bs you personally know 🙄 says the biggest sprint fan boy who wants to paint his block yellow and black. whatever
I'm also considering getting a bandanna for the dog with a big Sprint logo on it.😁
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jrfdsf2 said:
Verizon does kick you off for too much roaming. I personally know people who were for that very reason. They plainly state so in their t&c's.
You're wrong.
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I've had my Verizon phone for a year and a half and every single month, my phone is used more than 50% while roaming. I have yet to be terminated for it. I have yet to meet anybody terminated for roaming too much with Verizon. On the other hand, Sprint and AT&T are really strict about it.
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Yes, they roam off eachothers networks. I just switched from Verizon to Sprint and I have had an absolute great experience. Billing has been fine (they actually gave me free activation) and customer service has been great. You save money and if you like smartphones you get a great selection with Sprint. Of course I've been with verizon for years and the experience has been the same as Sprint but just a tad more money
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Sprint, is aggressively pursuing customers that excessively roam or use too much data. Previously, Sprint has not had hard caps on these components. However, internal documents show that Sprint will put caps on both.
Specifically, customers that use more than 5 GB of data, or roam more than 800 minutes in a month, are subject to termination of service.
yup, and if you call customer service to much they will kick you as well, all just part of their stellar Customer service they offer...Sprint has lost more then 2million customers in the past two quarters and even tried to sell off Nextel(but gave up when nobody wanted it) Their business modle is in the toilet, they are desperate and are now throwing out their service on the cheap..If $ ...
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Specifically, customers that use more than 5 GB of data, or roam more than 800 minutes in a month, are subject to termination of service.
yup, and if you call customer service to much they will kick you as well, all just part of their stellar Customer service they offer...Sprint has lost more then 2million customers in the past two quarters and even tried to sell off Nextel(but gave up when nobody wanted it) Their business modle is in the toilet, they are desperate and are now throwing out their service on the cheap..If $ ...
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"Specifically, customers that use more than 5 GB of data, or roam more than 800 minutes in a month, are subject to termination of service."
...Ummm...VZW has a 5GB limit too...
...Ummm...VZW has a 5GB limit too...
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Not on roaming and with sprint tiny native network and your traveling, better watch out!
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yeahright said:
The Key phrase was 800 minutes of roaming!!!
If I had a service and was using that much roaming, I would kick myself off long before my wireless provider ever did. What would be the point?
If you're roaming that much, how much benefit could you possibly be getting from your free M2M minutes? Anyone dumb enough to waste their money like that every month deserves the boot!
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well, he is signing up for the unlimited plan so i am guessing he will use a ton of minutes and his argument for Sprin't Smaller network was he can roam for free. I use about 3000 minutes a month and sprint does not have service at my house, i could roam off Verizon but i could easily hit 800 minutes in a month
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yeahright said:
well, he is signing up for the unlimited plan so i am guessing he will use a ton of minutes and his argument for Sprin't Smaller network was he can roam for free. I use about 3000 minutes a month and sprint does not have service at my house, i could roam off Verizon but i could easily hit 800 minutes in a month
If Sprint doesn't work at your house, then it would not be a good choice for you. Verizon has a weak signal where I live, that's why I don't have them.
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just for info in your coversation, I will not be roaming much at all, but just would need to be able to from time to time hence the question.
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