Lots of Cancellation talk in HoFO Alltel threads
The PR night mare begins.
Many Alltel customers do not want to pay Verizon's higher rates or lose My Circle. Those who are month to month are staying there so thy can port out of they fine they will be treated the like SureWest buyout customers.
Many Alltel customers do not want to pay Verizon's higher rates or lose My Circle. Those who are month to month are staying there so thy can port out of they fine they will be treated the like SureWest buyout customers.
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"as others have posted, if they were to cancel my đ circle, I think we'll be able to cancel without any ETF's, based on all of the advertising behind it, plus we could then sell our phones on hofo or ebay before going elsewhere.""
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Its-The-Network said:
Dude get a frigin clue a few dorks on hofo is not the majority đ
No but they do speak for many. JD Powers doesn't Poll EVERY Verizon customer either....Get it?
I think you need to catch a clue here.
This will not be an easy job for Veriaon to take away services and keep customers THAT WERE HAPPY!!!
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You don't know what you're talking about, this entire forum already knows this. Sry Game over for you...and stop making assumptions.
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Its-The-Network said:
You don't know what you're talking about, this entire forum already knows this. Sry Game over for you...and stop making assumptions.
ASSUMPTIONS????? ...have a peek at HoFo the numbers are getting larger VS Staying with Verizon.HoFo has far more customers than employees posting I will guarantee every single negative is reflected in 10 more you won;t read about. Business 101....
You guys have a huge PR issue, 80 million IN NEtwork ain't gonna do it.....
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The majority doesn't even know that HoFo exists let alone participate on the message board. The same goes for Phonescoop or even Yahoo Answers. Verizon could lose a million Alltel customers from the mycircle problem and still come out ahead.
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robtheman said:
The majority doesn't even know that HoFo exists let alone participate on the message board. The same goes for Phonescoop or even Yahoo Answers. Verizon could lose a million Alltel customers from the mycircle problem and still come out ahead.
Its going to be far more than 1 million.....Watch and learn grasshopper.
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thats right about a majority not knowing about HoFo...so, who the heck is HoFo? And I agree, Verizon will still come out on top, Verizon will still become the largest carrier in the US, and still have more coverage than any other carrier. Alltel may have had some nice pricing but I had Alltel before and compaired to Verizon they sucked bad! It took 2 hours to send a txt message sometimes and had dropped calls with full service! And they didn't have national coverage, I was on Verizon's network more than I was on Alltel's. So Alltel customers are blind if they don't see how good it'll be to go to Verizon đ
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I'm with Alltel now, and I can assure you along with about half of our 13 million, that if Verizon says No My Circle, I'll say No Verizon.
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Then you will say yes to an ETF if you are that petty to say i'm done if.... then I doubt they really care honestly what you think the My Circle is a great idea that got Alltel in the trouble they are in now 22 billion in debt. Verizon may grandfather it in but I would doubt it.It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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If you leave Verizon, with their 80+million customers, who will all have free mobile to mobile, what carrier will you go to? Keep in mind by the time the deal closes VZW will likely have close to 88 million customers based on the two companies growth alone. Almost every single person in Midwest will want to get VZW for the coverage and free mobile to mobile.
When all your calls are to vzw customers you don't need a "my circle"
When all your calls are to vzw customers you don't need a "my circle"
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I'm sorry but your misinformed, Alltel is not in debt from My Circle, that is incorrect.
Also, if Verizon voids current My Circle plans on current contracts they will HAVE to waive ETF's.
As far as which carrier? The second best option, T-Mobile with My Faves.
I have My Circle because I talk to people on house phones alot, and last time i checked Verizon Wireless wasn't offering free calling to them.
I have no problem with Verizon, their coverage and customer service sounds great! My Circle was the reason for joining Alltel and if it's not going to be a part of my plan anymore, i'm leaving.
Also, if Verizon voids current My Circle plans on current contracts they will HAVE to waive ETF's.
As far as which carrier? The second best option, T-Mobile with My Faves.
I have My Circle because I talk to people on house phones alot, and last time i checked Verizon Wireless wasn't offering free calling to them.
I have no problem with Verizon, their coverage and customer service sounds great! My Circle was the reason for joining Alltel and if it's not going to be a part of my plan anymore, i'm leaving.
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ChieflandFL said:
Also, if Verizon voids current My Circle plans on current contracts they will HAVE to waive ETF's.
As far as which carrier? The second best option, T-Mobile with My Faves.
I have My Circle because I talk to people on house phones alot, and last time i checked Verizon Wireless wasn't offering free calling to them.
So you're a contract lawyer now? You have fun with T-mob and their coverage area and reception.
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vzman23 said:ChieflandFL said:
Also, if Verizon voids current My Circle plans on current contracts they will HAVE to waive ETF's.
As far as which carrier? The second best option, T-Mobile with My Faves.
I have My Circle because I talk to people on house phones alot, and last time i checked Verizon Wireless wasn't offering free calling to them.
So you're a contract lawyer now? You have fun with T-mob and their coverage area and reception.
Amzing isn't it that those in the real world can actually PASS up the "privilege"to send Verizon their money...
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avg joe is by far the biggest loser on these forums. if you dont like verizon, go away little turd....everyone is sick of you and no one likes you here so go jump off a bridge....you dont know jack and your posts are as bad as the network you support.
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Dont even start talking about polling. Hofo is for hardcore phone junkies. They are far from representing the average user. Talk is cheap. Show me real numbers then we can see whats what.
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He can't he can only make stuff up to fit his narrow minded thought pattern.
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cwcanty said:
Dont even start talking about polling. Hofo is for hardcore phone junkies. They are far from representing the average user. Talk is cheap. Show me real numbers then we can see whats what.
You will see real number soon enough Grasshopper....Watch and learn.
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cwcanty said:
Thanks for ruining the verizon forum today...again. Your awesome buddy.
I know the truth stings. Just passing along relevant (if somewhat painful) information from those who are about to bend over for Verizon by force.....
"yea this will really blow if they dumb my circle.... i know a total of like 1 person off the top of my head that i talk to maybe once every few months or something that has verizon.... all my friends have alltel or att so a few of our my circles are att customers and most of them are land lines....
it wouldnt be the end of the world for me if they did get rid of my circle it would really tighten our minute use up but what would really really kill me is the unlimited d...
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ave joe could you maybe for a moment just realize that NO ONE LIKES YOU.
All the Alltell customers we are currently talking with are PUMPED because they just went from 13 million people they could talk to for free to 80 million....so please, speak to someone who is polling the actual customers as a part of their job, not listening to whining 12 year olds on a HoFo forum.
Your such a turd it is no wonder your wife left you for a farm animal.
All the Alltell customers we are currently talking with are PUMPED because they just went from 13 million people they could talk to for free to 80 million....so please, speak to someone who is polling the actual customers as a part of their job, not listening to whining 12 year olds on a HoFo forum.
Your such a turd it is no wonder your wife left you for a farm animal.
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IamTheGodfather said:
ave joe could you maybe for a moment just realize that NO ONE LIKES YOU.
All the Alltell customers we are currently talking with are PUMPED because they just went from 13 million people they could talk to for free to 80 million....so please, speak to someone who is polling the actual customers as a part of their job, not listening to whining 12 year olds on a HoFo forum.
Your such a turd it is no wonder your wife left you for a farm animal.
Sorry Champ I am not the kind of person who cares who "likes" me. I don't buy Hollister T-Shirts and own an Ipod. I am my own person take it or leave it. You can lead or follow. Followers are far more well like by a whole lot more people th...
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Who are you polling? Did you mention that they most likely will lose my circle in exchange for that? Were they excited then? Because I'm not. Be sure to put that in your little poll.
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VZDUB1914 said:
Thank you for the useless information.
Anytime.....More to come.
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There were mass cancellations when Cingular first acquired AT&T Wireless. It's the name of the game... and they are usually customers that want the world for free anyway so they leave or they were customers that already wanted to leave but couldn't because of the ETF.
I still can't believe that you are basing these assumptions on 20-30 posters on HoFo. Is this like the FCC episode of the Family Guy where 1 complaint equals 1 Billion people?
Ok, so Alltel users are gonna get bit by the VZW acquisition... thats a fact of life... eventually. But to think that VZW is going to immediately remove these features is asinine and just goes to show how immature and unknowledgable you are about mergers. First off, it will take probably about a...
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I still can't believe that you are basing these assumptions on 20-30 posters on HoFo. Is this like the FCC episode of the Family Guy where 1 complaint equals 1 Billion people?
Ok, so Alltel users are gonna get bit by the VZW acquisition... thats a fact of life... eventually. But to think that VZW is going to immediately remove these features is asinine and just goes to show how immature and unknowledgable you are about mergers. First off, it will take probably about a...
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It's too early to know exactly what Verizon will do or not do...or if they'll have features that Alltel did or drop them all together. The fact is, Verizon has the most reliable network, and soon have more coverage and customers than any other carrier in the US. They have a good selection of phones and will let you change plans without extending contract. And from personal experience from other carriers, I have to say that Verizon is the most user friendly carrier when it comes to featuers and online account. No carrier is perfect, but if anyone is going to whine and cry about Verizon aquiring a smaller carrier to actually improve coverage and IN Calling, then get your mom to change your diaper, its going to happen and there's more good ...
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cellgeek82 said:...
It's too early to know exactly what Verizon will do or not do...or if they'll have features that Alltel did or drop them all together. The fact is, Verizon has the most reliable network, and soon have more coverage and customers than any other carrier in the US. They have a good selection of phones and will let you change plans without extending contract. And from personal experience from other carriers, I have to say that Verizon is the most user friendly carrier when it comes to featuers and online account. No carrier is perfect, but if anyone is going to whine and cry about Verizon aquiring a smaller carrier to actually improve coverage and IN Calling, then get your mom to change your diaper, its g
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AvgJoe said:
You guys really belive 80 million cutomers is good for customers, and covergae where no one goes is fgood for all Veriaon customers...No no no
Alltel is the one claiming more coverage than anybody else, and has coverage where people won't be caught dead at...at least Verizon has NATIONAL coverage and not just regional like Alltel. After the merge people should be happy to be with a carrier with more coverage and more customer ratio to have unlimited calling to. I had to have a larger minute plan when I was with Alltel because there wasn't alot of people on Alltel, its a small carrier. Besides, if Alltel was so great why are they selling and why did they only have 13 million customer and n...
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cellgeek82 said:...AvgJoe said:
You guys really belive 80 million cutomers is good for customers, and covergae where no one goes is fgood for all Veriaon customers...No no no
Alltel is the one claiming more coverage than anybody else, and has coverage where people won't be caught dead at...at least Verizon has NATIONAL coverage and not just regional like Alltel. After the merge people should be happy to be with a carrier with more coverage and more customer ratio to have unlimited calling to. I had to have a larger minute plan when I was with Alltel because there wasn't alot of people on Alltel, its a small carrier. Besides, if Alltel was so great why are they selling and why did the
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They're only making $1 billion on the deal. For such a huge sale, that's not much of a profit at all.
I just don't get it...
This thread and forum is hilarious.
I just don't get it...
This thread and forum is hilarious.
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There were mass cancellations when Cingular first acquired AT&T Wireless. It's the name of the game... and they are usually customers that want the world for free anyway so they leave or they were customers that already wanted to leave but couldn't because of the ETF.
I still can't believe that you are basing these assumptions on 20-30 posters on HoFo. Is this like the FCC episode of the Family Guy where 1 complaint equals 1 Billion people?
Ok, so Alltel users are gonna get bit by the VZW acquisition... thats a fact of life... eventually. But to think that VZW is going to immediately remove these features is asinine and just goes to show how immature and unknowledgable you are about mergers. First o
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Is there a reason you misspell Verizon in almost every single one of your posts?
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SEM said:
Is there a reason you misspell Verizon in almost every single one of your posts?
SEM said:NO except the Z is a reach sometimes and I really don't care.
Is there a reason you misspell Verizon in almost every single one of your posts?
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This is same crap went on during the At&t merger..There may be some backlash at the beginning but it will be minimal at best in the long run. You must remember that any of these INTERNET polls on phone forums are way off because only a small opinionated percentage of users actually will join a wireless forum. In the real world I would guess 95% of users have never posted on a phone forum and those will probably stick around and see what happens and how the merger works.
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Exactly why I haven't played into joe's pointless game. These are exactly the same things people talked about then...and back during the Verizon creation. You will always have people that leave and people that stay. You will also hear more about the people leaving than staying, especially from certain people. The flame wars that get started are pointless and idiotic. Responding to those people only fans their senseless babble and makes every get pissy and hate the forum. As for what's gonna be there when the merger is done...to be determined...by both sides...at that time when it's finished at the end of the year. Until then, it's all guessing and no one will guess correctly.
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i already hate this forum đ
but yet I keep coming back...don't know what is wrong with me
but yet I keep coming back...don't know what is wrong with me
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Look for some alltel customers, they won't care if my circle is gone.
But i can assure you that about half of the 13 million do care about it. I speak on behalf of many when i set this clear example of what alltel customers will do when it becomes Verizon.
No My Cirle = No Verizon
I don't know for sure that Verizon even is cutting My Circle, I'm just saying if they do, so long. I don't care to speak with 80 million customers when i dont know but 10% of them âšī¸
But i can assure you that about half of the 13 million do care about it. I speak on behalf of many when i set this clear example of what alltel customers will do when it becomes Verizon.
No My Cirle = No Verizon
I don't know for sure that Verizon even is cutting My Circle, I'm just saying if they do, so long. I don't care to speak with 80 million customers when i dont know but 10% of them âšī¸
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ChieflandFL said:
Look for some alltel customers, they won't care if my circle is gone.
But i can assure you that about half of the 13 million do care about it. I speak on behalf of many when i set this clear example of what alltel customers will do when it becomes Verizon.
No My Cirle = No Verizon
I don't know for sure that Verizon even is cutting My Circle, I'm just saying if they do, so long. I don't care to speak with 80 million customers when i dont know but 10% of them âšī¸
if you knew 10% of 80 million customers, then you would know 8 million people...if you knew 1% of them, thats 800,000. Seriously, the my circle thing is a t mobile gimmick and verizon wont give in.....and every single person ...
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While those are outstanding points, I use My Circle to talk to lots of people on home phones. So it's not a gimmick for me or many of the 13 million Alltel customers. If Verizon really thinks everyone is going to stay just because they have a few new devices locked down with their interface, or the fact that they can call 80 million people for free, they are wrong. I'm not just speaking for myself here.
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If people are concerned about the VZW user interface, keep your Alltel phone. I can activate an Alltel phone on VZW right now. The network consolidation will take no time at all.
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ChieflandFL said:
While those are outstanding points, I use My Circle to talk to lots of people on home phones. So it's not a gimmick for me or many of the 13 million Alltel customers. If Verizon really thinks everyone is going to stay just because they have a few new devices locked down with their interface, or the fact that they can call 80 million people for free, they are wrong. I'm not just speaking for myself here.
NO you are not. You are speaking for the majority as I see it reading other forums. You guys are not hooked on the technology YOu are hooked on the plans. BIG difference, as well you are smart enough to realize 80 million more people are not any benifit to you.
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The merger is great for my area. Currently VZW has about 65% marketshare and Alltel has approx 25%. Sprextel and ATT/Cingular/att have a presence, but only make up a combined 8%. US Cellular has the rest. Once the merger is complete, My Circle won't be necessary because VZW will have 90% marketshare and you will be able to talk to virtually anyone for free!
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VZWrube said:
The merger is great for my area. Currently VZW has about 65% marketshare and Alltel has approx 25%. Sprextel and ATT/Cingular/att have a presence, but only make up a combined 8%. US Cellular has the rest. Once the merger is complete, My Circle won't be necessary because VZW will have 90% marketshare and you will be able to talk to virtually anyone for free!
You are forgetting most Alltel users use My Circle to call other than wireless numbers.
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They will have 80+ million (probably about 86 million) people to talk to by the time the deal is complete. Where are they going to go? VZW will have THE most complete coverage in the areas where these customers live when it goes through. Who will they go to? Definitely not Sprint. T-mob and AT&T don't have the coverage area... Who will they go to US Cellular who has hardly any customers? Doubtful.
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If Verizon doesn't keep My Circle when they take over my Alltel contract they can stick my phone where the sun don't shine.
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If they don't keep it as a plan, they will grandfather people on it so i wouldn't worry to much, I highly doubt they would kick everone off it day one, they are smarter then that.
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yeahright said:
I highly doubt they would kick everone off it day one, they are smarter then that.
Now THAT's an assumption I would not stand behind with strong conviction....LOL
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Meh. When we get the details of the acquisition and not just unfounded rumors, then I'll worry about what the Alltel customers are doing and how best to help them. Right now, it's a bunch of posturing lemmings trying to figure out which cliff they need to leap off of.
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AllTel customers might or might not leave once the merger is complete, but they can't take the assets with them (equipment, stores, call centers, and most important spectrum). This aquasition isn't to get a numbers boost (that's just the bonus). This was planned for increased coverage and capacity. Did you forget that VZW just won the 700 Mhz not too long ago?
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temp_name said:
AllTel customers might or might not leave once the merger is complete, but they can't take the assets with them (equipment, stores, call centers, and most important spectrum). This aquasition isn't to get a numbers boost (that's just the bonus). This was planned for increased coverage and capacity. Did you forget that VZW just won the 700 Mhz not too long ago?
They still have to figure out how to make it OPEN and still charge for it being so...Did you forget.
Open network and Verizon are mutually exclusive terms....
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From personal experience switching from alltel to verizon.... STOP COMPLAINING! Alltel sucks! Verizon is amazing! Once they switch they will wonder why they didnt years ago. sure you lose my cirle... boo hoo get over it. Sure you will lose local plans... boo hoo... its called NATIONAL! With NO roaming! Even alltel's national plans still include roaming. ITs also called the freakin best coverage! After the buyout I am pretty sure hardly anywhere will be extended network!
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It all comes down to location.
Here in Northern MN it's not such ahuge deal, but seeing I'm about three miles from the MN/WI border, Alltel is huge in north/central WI.
I get loads of customers who are in AT&T/Alltell country in WI that would love to switch, we just don't have the network there yet (no one covers everywhere). By the end of the year with the acquisition of both Unicel and Alltel, VZW's network both here and all over the U.S. will get a huge jump.
People will be upset about My Circle, but VZW is already working on a similar feature for business plans so maybe something for everyday customers is in the works.
I do foresee people jumping ship if VZW takes away My Circle, but the only other option is T-Mobile.
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Here in Northern MN it's not such ahuge deal, but seeing I'm about three miles from the MN/WI border, Alltel is huge in north/central WI.
I get loads of customers who are in AT&T/Alltell country in WI that would love to switch, we just don't have the network there yet (no one covers everywhere). By the end of the year with the acquisition of both Unicel and Alltel, VZW's network both here and all over the U.S. will get a huge jump.
People will be upset about My Circle, but VZW is already working on a similar feature for business plans so maybe something for everyday customers is in the works.
I do foresee people jumping ship if VZW takes away My Circle, but the only other option is T-Mobile.
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