Question about the VZW/Alltel Merger
Where I stay, the 2 top companies as far as coverage is att and vzw. Alltel sucks here (at least in my opinion) but everyone I know with vzw is happy with their service. Now I am not under contract with anyone but was thinking between att and vzw. The prices seem to be the same. But my question is will vzw keep the my circle and if they do when would it go into effect? I would love it if they did because all the people I talk all have different cell phone carriers. Thanks for any helpful info. 🙂
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no one knows yet... everyone thinks they do, but no one knows yet
Hopefully they keep it
Hopefully they keep it
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what's really great is having 80 million people to talk to for free... I'm doubting they keep it for that reason, but it would be nice to have like 5 extra numbers or so to call for free outside the network.
My circle isn't a network thing. Verizon could have done it if they wanted to even before all this
My circle isn't a network thing. Verizon could have done it if they wanted to even before all this
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You remind me of my 13 year old. You speak with such confidence, even when you have no idea what you are saying.
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He is right.
If Verizon thought they needed a "My Circle" or "Favs" type plan they could have it now.
They are not buying Alltel for their marketing department.
If Verizon thought they needed a "My Circle" or "Favs" type plan they could have it now.
They are not buying Alltel for their marketing department.
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texaswireless said:
He is right.
I doubt it. He's saying MyCircle will be GONE, "poof", the second the merger is finalized. I'd think that, at worst, VZW would allow ppl who already have it to keep it (grandfathered), unless/until they change their plan.
I'd agree that its doubtful that VZW will suddenly start offering MyCircle themselves.
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I am sure the customers who have it will be allowed to keep it until their agreement is up and maybe beyond. AT&T still has customers here and there with old AT&T Wireless plans and their agreements are long since over.
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texaswireless said:They are not buying Alltel for their marketing department.
True. One thing VZW is getting out of this is a whole lot of towers that are already built that they can put 700mhz radios & antennae on to build out the licenses they got in the auction cheaper than building out from scratch.
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Verizon mostly wants Alltel for those rural areas where Verizon has little or no presence in to deploy voice and data services, especially with LTE.
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BTW....how is the curve 🙂 That is the phone I was looking at getting!!!! Thanks
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the curve is awesome... its fast, light, runs great etc etc... worth it in everyway
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Ya know.. when i first got the phone i was really dissapointed with the battery life... but as time has gone on it has gotten way better.
I'm not sure if I can attribute this to conditioning of the battery over time or using the phone less and less after the "newness" wears off. Now I can typically get 2 days of use with some calls, lots of SMS, a little browsing, and email.
YouTube does knock it down rather quickly though.
I'm not sure if I can attribute this to conditioning of the battery over time or using the phone less and less after the "newness" wears off. Now I can typically get 2 days of use with some calls, lots of SMS, a little browsing, and email.
YouTube does knock it down rather quickly though.
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Actually, when you think about it, BB2709/AvgJoe NOT liking something is actually kind of a big thumbs-up for it. 😉
Silly troll, tricks are for kids.
Silly troll, tricks are for kids.
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Well it is a fact that Alltel has the largest network by square footage. Combine this rural coverage with all major cities that Verizon already covers. I would say the merger would create by far the largest and best network in the US.
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LTE is the supposed 4G network. It is the next step up, in terms of speed, from CDMA and UMTS. Imagine Fiber Optics ... or perhaps T1/T3 connections over the airwaves ... maybe I'm exaggerating but you get the picture. Hopefully when LTE is fully deployed they will start implementing VoIP - which should bring down costs tremendously, I think. At this point I'm just speculating.
AT&T and VZW have both commited to LTE. VZW's CDMA network is technologically superior than GSM (I still stand by that, ask the engineers) ... but on the consumer level there is a MARGINAL difference in favor of CDMA. So ultimately ... when you decide what carrier you want to use - do your friends/family/colleagues use AT&T or VZW? If most of them uses AT&T ...
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AT&T and VZW have both commited to LTE. VZW's CDMA network is technologically superior than GSM (I still stand by that, ask the engineers) ... but on the consumer level there is a MARGINAL difference in favor of CDMA. So ultimately ... when you decide what carrier you want to use - do your friends/family/colleagues use AT&T or VZW? If most of them uses AT&T ...
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My job gets discounts with both carriers.... And everyone I talk to all use different carriers 🙂..... Both get good coverage in my area... Decisions Decisions Decisions 🙂
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I would find out what kind of agreement you have in regards to phone purchases. Regularly ... VZW phones with a 1yr and 2yr contract is a $70 difference. with the agreement that we have ... it's $50 cheaper and the difference between 1yr and 2yr is only $30 (thus I always sign 1yr contracts).
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LTE is the supposed 4G network. It is the next step up, in terms of speed, from CDMA and UMTS. Imagine Fiber Optics ... or perhaps T1/T3 connections over the airwaves ... maybe I'm exaggerating but you get the picture. Hopefully when LTE is fully deployed they will start implementing VoIP - which should bring down costs tremendously, I think. At this point I'm just speculating.
AT&T and VZW have both commited to LTE. VZW's CDMA network is technologically superior than GSM (I still stand by that, ask the engineers) ... but on the consumer level there is a MARGINAL difference in favor of CDMA. So ultimately ... when you decide what carrier you want to use - do your friends/family/colleagues use AT&T or
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crackberry said:AT&T's current 3G network uses VOIP. That's how they can do video share
They need to advertise that more because I had no idea ...
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You guys are all assuming people who don't travel much care about how big a footprint a particular Carrier has in the US or Worldwide. I mean really GSM has the best coverage worldwide....and? No one cares.....
It makes no difference. Nothing makes a difference except what do they offer IN THE HOME COVERAGE area. How much does it cost, what phone choices do I have....Thats it. People don't care how many customers a company has, How big it is, Few will ask if there is service in Paduca KY. or North Dakota. LOL
The deal gives corporate employees bragging rights. and takes away the popular My Circle from current Altel customers, many of whom could have chosen Verizon in the first place.
It makes no difference. Nothing makes a difference except what do they offer IN THE HOME COVERAGE area. How much does it cost, what phone choices do I have....Thats it. People don't care how many customers a company has, How big it is, Few will ask if there is service in Paduca KY. or North Dakota. LOL
The deal gives corporate employees bragging rights. and takes away the popular My Circle from current Altel customers, many of whom could have chosen Verizon in the first place.
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AvgJoe said:
You guys are all assuming people who don't travel much care about how big a footprint a particular Carrier has in the US
But ya gotta remember, Joe... not everyone is a shut-in like you. 😉
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SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
You guys are all assuming people who don't travel much care about how big a footprint a particular Carrier has in the US
But ya gotta remember, Joe... not everyone is a shut-in like you. 😉
On the contrary not every one lives on a farm like you!
IF you lived the way I lived you would not leave town much either CubeBoy. Better get to bed. Those rah rah "memos" will be coming early...
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AvgJoe said:
IF you lived the way I lived you would not leave town much either
Yeah... I'm pretty sure you've got your mom's basement just the way you like it by now. 😁
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SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
IF you lived the way I lived you would not leave town much either
Yeah... I'm pretty sure you've got your mom's basement just the way you like it by now. 😁
You guys really really need to come up with something original. I know cubicle life along with tight knots on your ties can constrict blood to the brain. But really. The whole basement thing needs a revamp.....Come on ..... loosen that tie and come up with something. Really!
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Funny coming. From the guy that has used the tired lame fan boy and koolaid insults for ages. Try not do be a hypocrit you preach the same thing in every post, insults and views.
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rjsumthin said:
Funny coming. From the guy that has used the tired lame fan boy and koolaid insults for ages. Try not do be a hypocrit you preach the same thing in every post, insults and views.
Ah but Kool-Drinker is still relevant and often used term for those who blindly follow a corporate mindset and fan boy is not an insult.Im a fan boy of GSM.....ONLY becasue of what the technology allows me to do with Carrier interference. Hell I can move my phonebook from phone to phone all by my lonesome (and it does not cost $10) Yes I am a major fan-boy of GSM and the Nokia N95 series.
"Living in Mom's basement" has no meaning or relevance in the business world. Its apparently 20 something term (like Holl...
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While I understand not on the same page, your point was originality, not what it means to the business world.
"you guys really really need to come up with something original"
Your words not mine.
Also , while yes I believe (by your definition) there are koolaid drinkers, did brand loyalty and self formed opinions ever cross your mind? You make the same assumptions you are blasting other people about.
I'm a VZW fan boy, I admit it, doesn't make me a koolaid drinker because I throw out the lingo of corporate marketing. They are paid the money to make things catchy and easy to say, so best coverage is a phrase I use, because it does matter to a ton of people.
You seem to have a decent brain, so use it. And by the way ge...
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"you guys really really need to come up with something original"
Your words not mine.
Also , while yes I believe (by your definition) there are koolaid drinkers, did brand loyalty and self formed opinions ever cross your mind? You make the same assumptions you are blasting other people about.
I'm a VZW fan boy, I admit it, doesn't make me a koolaid drinker because I throw out the lingo of corporate marketing. They are paid the money to make things catchy and easy to say, so best coverage is a phrase I use, because it does matter to a ton of people.
You seem to have a decent brain, so use it. And by the way ge...
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Well said Good Sir 😁
😲 Just wait till his phone gets stolen or he loses it and someone who also has GSM pulls out his sim and puts theirs in!! That person has a brand new phone at no cost to them... and nobody can really do anything about it!! See if he still loves GSM 😲
😲 Just wait till his phone gets stolen or he loses it and someone who also has GSM pulls out his sim and puts theirs in!! That person has a brand new phone at no cost to them... and nobody can really do anything about it!! See if he still loves GSM 😲
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rjsumthin said:
Funny coming. From the guy that has used the tired lame fan boy and koolaid insults for ages. Try not do be a hypocrit you preach the same thing in every post, insults and views.
LOL, yup. I sometimes wonder if AvgJoe is really a bot. Always the same old tired s***. 😁
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Sometimes.... But every once in a rare while he shows some sign of intelligence so it throws me off.
Like Nextel18, i used to hate him, but atleast he brings facts to the table, and now, he can take those facts, and although he has documented thoroughly he isn't a fan of verizon, says this alltel aquisition is a good thing. That's a respectable thing, maybe joe will learn to do the same, 😁, til then you can search rjsumthin on my posts and see how many times he got owned by yours truly, 😁
Like Nextel18, i used to hate him, but atleast he brings facts to the table, and now, he can take those facts, and although he has documented thoroughly he isn't a fan of verizon, says this alltel aquisition is a good thing. That's a respectable thing, maybe joe will learn to do the same, 😁, til then you can search rjsumthin on my posts and see how many times he got owned by yours truly, 😁
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rjsumthin said:
That's a respectable thing, maybe joe will learn to do the same, 😁, til then you can search rjsumthin on my posts and see how many times he got owned by yours truly, 😁
Is it really that hard to own Joe? I've done it so many times that I now exchange his ass at the Macy's gift counter. 😎
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SystemShock said:rjsumthin said:
That's a respectable thing, maybe joe will learn to do the same, 😁, til then you can search rjsumthin on my posts and see how many times he got owned by yours truly, 😁
Is it really that hard to own Joe? I've done it so many times that I now exchange his ass at the Macy's gift counter. 😎
Yeah Schlock...Everyone has an absolute right to be an ignoramus at times I understand that. But man you are abusing the privilege.
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AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
IF you lived the way I lived you would not leave town much either
Yeah... I'm pretty sure you've got your mom's basement just the way you like it by now. 😁
You guys really really need to come up with something original.
Why? It was funny because it was true. 😉
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I'm not dissing Alltel in any way, just clarifying. Isn't there "largest network" claim largely due to all the roaming agreements they have (many with VZW)? Don't they only have there own towers in about 40 states? Just curious.
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I think VZW's definitely of largest network is enhanced network ... the network where you can actually use VZW's services ... regardless of roaming agreements.
From my understanding ... Sprint has the largest network in terms of owning their own towers. But that was a while ago.
From my understanding ... Sprint has the largest network in terms of owning their own towers. But that was a while ago.
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Actually, Alltel's owned infrastructure covers more geographical area than any other carrier...and the merger will give VZW quite a lot of existing towers to build-out their 700mhz network on...
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I don't get how they can cover a larger geographical area with their OWN towers when they are only in 34 states (I said 40 earlier, that was wrong). How can they have more area covered then VZW, Sprint and AT&T? I wondering with there own towers, not including roaming agreements. The national carriers are in almost all 50 states each.
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I agree with your statements. However, you forgot one thing. Divestitures. After said and done what would they be.
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mr.white said:
Well it is a fact that Alltel has the largest network by square footage. Combine this rural coverage with all major cities that Verizon already covers. I would say the merger would create by far the largest and best network in the US.
YEP! Pretty much puts it all to rest now doesn't it.
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