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New phones - EVER?

ctwiz

Dec 14, 2004, 12:20 AM
I'm new to phone scoop, so I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but does Verizon ever plan to release new phone models/technologies before anyone else? I ask that because I'm a long time VZW customer - 10 yrs if you include the time I spent with SNET before they became part of VZW and in the last few years, VZW has become slower and slower to release any appealing phones. Case in point - took forever to get V60's. Then forever to get camera phones. Then took them forever to get any bluetooth phones - to date they still only have the Moto V710.

I like the coverage, but the phones selection is killing me so now I'm thinking of moving to cingular to get the Moto A630. Need something with bluetooth and the keypad without spending $500...
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jester2ll2

Dec 14, 2004, 1:38 AM
VZW has decided to stop releasing new phones.

They feel that no more phones are necessary beyond what they currently offer.

In fact, they are going to do away with digital service and revert back to analog, its more reliable and has more coverage than any other system.
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bizkitsngravy

Dec 14, 2004, 11:54 AM
jester2ll2 said:
VZW has decided to stop releasing new phones.

They feel that no more phones are necessary beyond what they currently offer.

In fact, they are going to do away with digital service and revert back to analog, its more reliable and has more coverage than any other system.


ROFL! I thought it was quite funny, and I am a GSM guy. A good dry sence of humor is always appreciated lol!
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vzw2010

Dec 14, 2004, 12:02 PM
complete lie,verizonwireless just released 3 new models this month.it was never stated reverting back to analog only,service in america's choice plans include,digital,extended digtal&analog.fact not fiction
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disturbed1

Dec 14, 2004, 12:03 PM
it was a joke lighten up a bit.
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jester2ll2

Dec 14, 2004, 12:15 PM
Seriously. 🙄
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muchdrama

Dec 14, 2004, 12:16 PM
disturbed1 said:
it was a joke lighten up a bit.
I don't think he should be told of Verizon's first foray into nuclear powered camera phones. SSShhhhhhhh.
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jester2ll2

Dec 14, 2004, 12:20 PM
đŸ¤Ŗ LOL đŸ¤Ŗ

I've heard it decreases chances of radiation poisoning too.

Have you heard the rumor of the kinetic cell phones? Just shake 'em real hard if you start to lose a call or battery power. Bouncing it off a hard object works well too. 🙄
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muchdrama

Dec 14, 2004, 12:25 PM
jester2ll2 said:
đŸ¤Ŗ LOL đŸ¤Ŗ

I've heard it decreases chances of radiation poisoning too.

Have you heard the rumor of the kinetic cell phones? Just shake 'em real hard if you start to lose a call or battery power. Bouncing it off a hard object works well too. 🙄
I'm grimacing as I picture him throwing his handset at a bedroom wall.
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jester2ll2

Dec 14, 2004, 12:29 PM
Muhahahaha! 😈

Call to VZW C.S.:

"But, this guy on PhoneScoop.com said I could do it."

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disturbed1

Dec 14, 2004, 12:47 PM
I'm down with kinetic cell phones....as much as I have to walk around the expectations set by bad reps, advertising, and DAMN websites undercutting me I'd have an infinite battery.


OH HEY!! Did you hear that VZW has pioneered the initial phases of Nuclear Fission? Yep, and tryin to integrate it into a new phone that also does your laundry, drives your car, and makes you more physically attractive to the opposite sex.
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jester2ll2

Dec 14, 2004, 12:58 PM
disturbed1 said:
...and makes you more physically attractive to the opposite sex.


I thought just having VZW did that? 😛
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muchdrama

Dec 15, 2004, 10:27 AM
jester2ll2 said:
disturbed1 said:
...and makes you more physically attractive to the opposite sex.


I thought just having VZW did that? 😛
Well I'm certainly seeing no benefit from that. I obviously need a Razr.
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bizkitsngravy

Dec 14, 2004, 1:00 PM
disturbed1 said:
I'm down with kinetic cell phones....as much as I have to walk around the expectations set by bad reps, advertising, and DAMN websites undercutting me I'd have an infinite battery.


OH HEY!! Did you hear that VZW has pioneered the initial phases of Nuclear Fission? Yep, and tryin to integrate it into a new phone that also does your laundry, drives your car, and makes you more physically attractive to the opposite sex.


Let's not leave out it has a built in pace maker, too, and in some models it can even use a laser to level your pictures on the wall, and if you get the xlgbh model the laser can radiate heat, too making it very useful to build fires on the roadside when you break down....
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 2:14 PM
bizkitsngravy said:
Let's not leave out [that the phone] has a built in pace maker, too, and in some models it can even use a laser to level your pictures on the wall, and if you get the xlgbh model the laser can radiate heat, too making it very useful to build fires on the roadside when you break down...to He** with roadside assistance, I'm roughin' it with my new phone!

The sad part(and this isn't directed against you, bizkit) is that if some carrier actually offered a ridiculous feature like an integrated laser level, you would be *guaranteed* to have some feeb running around the VZW forums, screaming:

"VERIZON PHONES ARE TEH SUCK! DEY DON'T HAVE A LASER LEVEL! HOW COME!?! SO BAD! I'M GOING TO [insert ...
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bizkitsngravy

Dec 14, 2004, 2:21 PM
BetterThanJake said:
bizkitsngravy said:
Let's not leave out [that the phone] has a built in pace maker, too, and in some models it can even use a laser to level your pictures on the wall, and if you get the xlgbh model the laser can radiate heat, too making it very useful to build fires on the roadside when you break down...to He** with roadside assistance, I'm roughin' it with my new phone!

The sad part(and this isn't directed against you, bizkit) is that if some carrier actually offered a ridiculous feature like an integrated laser level, you would be *guaranteed* to have some feeb running around the VZW forums, screaming:

"VERIZON PHONES ARE TEH SUCK! DEY DON'T HAVE A LASER LEVEL!
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canddmeyer

Dec 14, 2004, 3:02 PM
Hi ctwiz.....switch to Cingular. I did & so far it works for me. Since there is a return policy, take advantage of it if needed.

You are right, Verizon's phones suck, & most everyone knows it. Myself, I'll be ending my Verizon service at the end of the month since service is already paid thru 12-31. I by chance also have an ATTWS TDMA phone which has always outperformed my Verizon CDMA, so the Verizon phone drew the short stick. When ATTWS TDMA goes away I'll get a Sprint or Verizon phone so I'll have analog coverage if analog is still around. I travel & there is still a LOT of analog out there.

There are still holes in Cingular's network although those are somewhat improved since the merger. For me, Cingular as well as ATTWS TDMA pr...
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 3:22 PM
canddmeyer said:
You are right, Verizon's phones suck, & most everyone knows it.


Mmm... nah. Well, maybe at the high end they do. But who is this 'most everyone'? Most ppl use midrange or low-end phones, I'd imagine, and VZW has some very decent phones in those categories. I personally love my Samsung 530s on Verizon.

Doesn't have a lot of bells n' whistles (it actually CAN'T, 'cuz my employer does not allow cameraphones), but in terms of reception and audio quality, its been great. Its also REALLY small and light. No complaints.
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MightyJoeYoung

Dec 14, 2004, 3:26 PM
So, you and 6 other people like the phones from VZW? Cool!
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 3:36 PM
???

Seriously, I have a number of friends on VZW, and until I came here, I never knew ppl hated VZW's phone selection so much.

But it does seem like most of the ppl here who do hate the selection are either high-enders or reps from other carriers who just like to poke fun, i.e. not your average Joe Consumer. That said, yeah, there's certainly things that VZW could do to improve their selection, though I have noticed that they've been releasing more new phones of late.
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canddmeyer

Dec 14, 2004, 3:34 PM
You are right. Most people like myself use the low to midrange phones. But folks are moving up these days. Bigger cars, TV's, & phones with more bells & whistles.

At my local Verizon store, they're pushing the LG junk. Junk is my opinion. They're embarrassed by their Motorola product & their Nokia is just filler material that has a horrible screen.

At my local Cingular store, no one except for me took the cheap phone. Customers were shelling out $$$ for top end phones. The store can't even get a Nokia 6820 they're selling so hot, and Razr's were out of stock too. Even the display Razr got sold.

Buy the time Verizon gets a clue it may be too late.
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 3:44 PM
canddmeyer said:
You are right. Most people like myself use the low to midrange phones. But folks are moving up these days. Bigger cars, TV's, & phones with more bells & whistles.

At my local Verizon store, they're pushing the LG junk. Junk is my opinion. They're embarrassed by their Motorola product & their Nokia is just filler material that has a horrible screen.

At my local Cingular store, no one except for me took the cheap phone. Customers were shelling out $$$ for top end phones. The store can't even get a Nokia 6820 they're selling so hot, and Razr's were out of stock too. Even the display Razr got sold.

Buy the time Verizon gets a clue it may be too late.

I kind of agree with you... the LG...
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canddmeyer

Dec 14, 2004, 5:02 PM
No doubt about it. The numbers don't lie. But I believe we'll be seeing the numbers change. With the merge, I suspect Cingular's churn will drop immensely as the *combined* network has dramatically improved reception for some Cingular customers I know.

I don't know how Cingular will "book" their migrating ATTWS customers who switch over to Cingular, but those numbers may count too. As for phone selection, with all things being equal Cingular will stomp Verizon.

Verizon's advantage has been ATTWS's and Cingular's new GSM networks with spotty service as well as some conversion of their networks from older technology to GSM while Verizon stayed it course & didn't mess with anything while expanding its network.

To me, Verizon has this...
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MightyJoeYoung

Dec 14, 2004, 6:31 PM
😁 That's the most beautiful thing I've ever read. 😁
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 7:01 PM
Good analysis, and I think that long-term, the merger sure does help Cingular.

But I think you're underestimating in the short-term how much trouble Cingy is going to have bringing the poorly-executing ATTW half of the new company up to speed. Lets face it- ATTW has really flat-out sucked in the past year or so, they completely blew the local number portability thing and their CS database upgrade was a nightmare that literally DROVE customers screaming to other carriers, especially Verizon. ☚ī¸

So Cingy is in for quite a challenge, both from within and from without. The fourth quarter numbers will be interesting.
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