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LTE vs WiMax

I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 9:58 AM
yes LTE prob wont be here for another 5 years and wimax is around the corner...but which does potentially has a chance of being the best.?
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wfine81

Sep 27, 2007, 9:59 AM
TDMA 🤣
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sangyup81

Sep 27, 2007, 10:05 AM
5 Years? Everything I read says 2 or 3 years (2009 or 2010)
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I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 10:12 AM
yeah right..you really believe they will deploy a 4g network in 3 years id like to see that!
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sangyup81

Sep 27, 2007, 10:14 AM
so you just arbitrarily added 2 years? that's called talking out of your ass
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I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 10:15 AM
i should actually add more..at least At&t gave it a 10year launch...and its not just me...several blogs have stated this..its common sense really...
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sangyup81

Sep 27, 2007, 10:20 AM
if you're talking about getting to top 100 markets or entire network, I can see where you're coming with this

but it's really easy to "launch" something in 3 cities only like the way Sprint is going to do with their WiMax
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I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 10:24 AM
yeah but by april 2008 sprint will be covering 100 million people..thats pretty impressive...and by 2010 200-300 million
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nextel18

Sep 27, 2007, 10:30 AM
But they are forced to do this. I am sure if another company was forced by FCC mandate to deploy a 4G network then they would be doing it sooner.
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I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 10:40 AM
true..but is the FCC helping to fund this venture...? ithink not..so far verizon's only partner per se in this is vodaphone i dont see this happening anytime soon.
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nextel18

Sep 27, 2007, 10:41 AM
Of course they aren’t funding this Wimax expansion, but they could still do it national and international. Look globally at which countries and companies who are starting to trial and launch Wimax networks. You would be surprised.
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sangyup81

Sep 27, 2007, 10:43 AM
are they all doing it on 2.5 GHz or is it just Sprint doing it?
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I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 10:48 AM
i thought sprint was on the 3.5 GHz spectrum
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I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 10:53 AM
never mind 3.5 GHz is not available in the US..but in canada it is..so wimax there could be on the 3.5 but in the US it will be 2.5
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nextel18

Sep 27, 2007, 11:04 AM
Well it ranges but in this country, 2.5 GHz and 5.8 GHz are being used. Sprint is using 2.5 GHz. Another company has spectrum in the 1.7 and 2.1 GHz.

Overseas again it varies. Some are doing 2.5 GHz, some are doing 2.3 GHz. some are doing 3.5 GHz. And some are doing 5.8 GHz.
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nextel18

Sep 27, 2007, 10:32 AM
Both are very good but it obviously depends on how much spectrum is used per carrier and other events. When Sprint uses its Wimax its using brand new spectrum that isn’t being currently used, while Verizon doesn’t do that. It could be longer than 5 years with LTE especially since they didn’t get everything defined yet.
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I AM KJ

Sep 27, 2007, 10:45 AM
i also hear wimax isnt just concentrating on the cell mobile market but as well as the household mobile internet..laptops..desktops..havent heard much of LTE computer partnerships...because of this..wimax has a larger commercial appeal...and a larger clientele base for sponsorships.
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nextel18

Sep 27, 2007, 11:00 AM
You know your stuff.
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bigdaddyjay

Sep 29, 2007, 1:35 PM
Here is some info regarding LTE/UMB/WiMax---The key to LTE is worldwide seamless operation, something you will not likely see with WiMax, also note the lower power consumption on the uplink for UMB and LTE.

Specifically, all three major cellular standards proposed, UMB (Ultra Mobile Broadband), LTE (Long Term Evolution) & Wimax (Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access) will use OFDMA on the downlink. Wimax also uses OFDMA on the uplink while LTE & UMB would use SC-FDMA on the uplink because it uses much less power on hand-held device. Also all mobile TV standards like Media-FLO and DVB-H are OFDM based.

Verizon has made statements in the past to the effect that they see little difference between these standards, that they are m...
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SystemShock

Sep 29, 2007, 2:21 PM
bigdaddyjay said:
Here is some info regarding LTE/UMB/WiMax---The key to LTE is worldwide seamless operation, something you will not likely see with WiMax, also note the lower power consumption on the uplink for UMB and LTE.

Specifically, all three major cellular standards proposed, UMB (Ultra Mobile Broadband), LTE (Long Term Evolution) & Wimax (Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access) will use OFDMA on the downlink. Wimax also uses OFDMA on the uplink while LTE & UMB would use SC-FDMA on the uplink because it uses much less power on hand-held device. Also all mobile TV standards like Media-FLO and DVB-H are OFDM based.

Verizon has made statements in the past to the effect that they see little difference be
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nextel18

Sep 29, 2007, 2:27 PM
Not sure how it was a great post, especially since we have already discussed this in many other forums. Wimax, LTE, and UMB will all rival each other. There are some similarities but to bring them together is quite difficult as some use different frequencies, difference characteristics, and some differences when it comes to DL and UL. Wimax might be easier to deploy especially since there are many manufactures that are putting their R&D towards and coming out with chips and devices for it. Nokia, Intel, Etc.. LTE also won’t be until 2009 maybe 2010 and obviously take some time before the networks are actually launched throughout their networks.

With that said, those three are very good technologies when it comes to data and spectrum ...
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SystemShock

Sep 29, 2007, 2:58 PM
nextel18 said:
Not sure how it was a great post, especially since we have already discussed this in many other forums.

Because it was informative. And I frankly do not care what was discussed on other forums, as I do not visit them often.
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nextel18

Sep 29, 2007, 3:08 PM
There is a reason why Rich and Phone Scoop set up a search function to actually locate this type of information. We have said this in many forums even this one, AT&T’s, Sprint’s and the main news section. I wouldn’t say his post is actually informative especially since it is basically old news in which we have already talked about this. If perhaps it were something new then it would be informative.
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SystemShock

Sep 29, 2007, 3:10 PM
Well, I still found it to be informative, so I guess I'm just gonna have to say we disagree here. Tra la la la la. 😁
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bigdaddyjay

Sep 29, 2007, 3:14 PM
I do not recall you ever stating that uplink battery drain would be an issue with WiMax did you? The fact is that the a majority of the world wide market will adopt LTE while Sprint sits on it's pathetic butt being incompatible with the rest of the world so that they could get a year or two jump in Data speeds to try to get some market share back for a pathetic company that is driving itself into the ground.
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bigdaddyjay

Sep 29, 2007, 3:15 PM
nextel18 said:
Not sure how it was a great post, especially since we have already discussed this in many other forums. Wimax, LTE, and UMB will all rival each other. There are some similarities but to bring them together is quite difficult as some use different frequencies, difference characteristics, and some differences when it comes to DL and UL. Wimax might be easier to deploy especially since there are many manufactures that are putting their R&D towards and coming out with chips and devices for it. Nokia, Intel, Etc.. LTE also won’t be until 2009 maybe 2010 and obviously take some time before the networks are actually launched throughout their networks.

With that said, those three are very good technologies
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VZWrube

Sep 30, 2007, 12:29 PM
As LTE becomes the worldwide standard, do people think VZW will be quicker to get new phones with new technology? With CDMA being mostly US, most manufacturers cater to GSM and the world market. We could see a turnaound with Sprint being the ones left in the cold with nothing but their WiMax to keep them warm. It would be interesting to see the US on board with the rest of the world. Is this a sign of the apocalypse? What's next? The US adopting the metric system?
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SystemShock

Sep 30, 2007, 2:26 PM
CDMA isn't 'mostly US', though. It is the most popular technology in the US (yep, more popular than GSM here), but there's something like 400 million CDMA users worldwide.

That's still a lot less than what GSM has worldwide, but of that 400 mil, only about one-third are in the US. We're not the only country that's into CDMA... Korea, for example.
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