Verizon!!!! get the Motorola RAZR V3 in your lineup
I finally got to see the Motorola RAZR V3 at the Digital Life Expo in NYC, and all I can say is that the phone is just awesome. The display is so sharp and clear. The displays pixel density is looks like its HD TV next to V710. This phone is definitely on my wish list. One problem. Its only a GSM phone. Arrrgh!!!!
Why the heck are all the truly innovative phones GSM. Verizon my be the best US carrier(based on coverage), but its users are treated like second class citizens. If you don't believe me got to the list phone manufacters, then do a tally of which phones are CDMA and which are GSM. You'll find few and I mean few are CDMA. Since Verizon users usually pay more for their service. We should expect their best phone selection. We can't ...
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Why the heck are all the truly innovative phones GSM. Verizon my be the best US carrier(based on coverage), but its users are treated like second class citizens. If you don't believe me got to the list phone manufacters, then do a tally of which phones are CDMA and which are GSM. You'll find few and I mean few are CDMA. Since Verizon users usually pay more for their service. We should expect their best phone selection. We can't ...
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Unfortunatly that seems to be the CDMA problem. I have a CDMA phone through a carrier in Canada and we have the same problem. I have a feeling that it has something to do with the fact that CDMA is patented by Calcom (sorry did i spell that right?) and i think a couple other smaller companys but Calcom is the leader. I have a feeling it's because of that because of that patent it costs more to design a phone for CDMA than it does for an open source like GSM.
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The last I heard about CDMA was that it had a patent under Qualcomm. Someone please refresh my memory on this. (anyone got linkies?)
GSM is open sourced. No patents and pretty much no regulations on how to make the phone work. Kind of like a Linux operating system.
Also as to GSM technology.. It is a standardized system in Eurasia. In most
Countries they are unable to have any other form of cell phone tech. This makes a GSM phone alot easier for manufacturers to make. They do not have to make the phone for ONE CDMA carrier (VZW) and another for ANOTHER CDMA carrier (SprintPCS) then yet a 3rd one for ATTWS then a 4th one for Cingular. Granted ATTWS and Cingular are the same signal..... But unless you have an unlocked phone you cannot ...
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GSM is open sourced. No patents and pretty much no regulations on how to make the phone work. Kind of like a Linux operating system.
Also as to GSM technology.. It is a standardized system in Eurasia. In most
Countries they are unable to have any other form of cell phone tech. This makes a GSM phone alot easier for manufacturers to make. They do not have to make the phone for ONE CDMA carrier (VZW) and another for ANOTHER CDMA carrier (SprintPCS) then yet a 3rd one for ATTWS then a 4th one for Cingular. Granted ATTWS and Cingular are the same signal..... But unless you have an unlocked phone you cannot ...
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Your right it's Qualcomm. I just spelled it horribly. The other reason there are more as there are more subscibers world wide so they make more phones for it. they have to slightly twiek them for the proper frequency if they are not quad band when the use the in the US though.
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Verizon actually does make requests to the manufacturers and they listen a lot of the time. They usually tell them exactly what they want in a phone.
As for the long process to get a phone to customers. That's why Verizon's service is the way it is. They take extra precautions to make sure that everything is going to work the way it should. If it isn't 100% perfect they will scrap it. They don't want to degrade the network or give customers a horrible phone.
As for the long process to get a phone to customers. That's why Verizon's service is the way it is. They take extra precautions to make sure that everything is going to work the way it should. If it isn't 100% perfect they will scrap it. They don't want to degrade the network or give customers a horrible phone.
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vzwinagent said:
They don't want to degrade the network or give customers a horrible phone.
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Now thats funny.
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Or hell [Verizon] could just go GSM.
Uhh... wouldn't that cost billions? 😳
In any case, GSM vs CDMA is a trade-off. GSM gets a wider phone selection (because Europe is all GSM, i.e. bigger market for GSM phones than CDMA), and the SIM card thing is handy, but CDMA seems more tolerant of weaker signals, which, all else being equal, seems to make for better coverage and bettter reception inside buildings. CDMA also seems to drop fewer calls, and CDMA systems can handle a higher volume of calls.
Also, Verizon is now releasing some darn good phones... nothing quite as nice-looking as the RAZR, but some good phones.
Given the trade-offs, I chose CDMA. Lotta ppl seem to feel the same way, since VZW is #1 and...
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I finally got to see the Motorola RAZR V3 at the Digital Life Expo in NYC, and all I can say is that the phone is just awesome. The display is so sharp and clear. The displays pixel density is looks like its HD TV next to V710. This phone is definitely on my wish list. One problem. Its only a GSM phone. Arrrgh!!!!
Why the heck are all the truly innovative phones GSM. Verizon my be the best US carrier(based on coverage), but its users are treated like second class citizens. If you don't believe me got to the list phone manufacters, then do a tally of which phones are CDMA and which are GSM. You'll find few and I mean few are CDMA. Since Verizon users usually pay more for their service. We should expect th
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I have to agree here. My service with Verizon is up 1/05. If by that time there aren't any quality new phones available, I'll go to GSM.
Verizon takes forever to get "new phones" and their plans cost more and they give less minutes on their America's Choice Plan.
As for coverage, GSM is close to par with CDMA. I don't live in the "outback".
Verizon, I have you for three more months, show me what you got!
Verizon takes forever to get "new phones" and their plans cost more and they give less minutes on their America's Choice Plan.
As for coverage, GSM is close to par with CDMA. I don't live in the "outback".
Verizon, I have you for three more months, show me what you got!
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that's probably a good choice. I have a CDMA phone and my GF has a GSM phone. Mine works in a lot of outling areas that hers doesn't but in the Big city where we live her GSM phone shines. Most areas of the city we both get great coverage but in department stores hers works great. Even in the subway she can get 3 bars of service (I know shocked the hell out of me.) and i didn't even have a hope. Verizons network will probably alow you to run that phone in farmer johns field and in more places than any of the GSM carriers but if you never leave a city other than in a plane then the GSM will probably get through more interferance.
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Godzzzilla said:Verizon has made a pretty big effort these past two months to offer some cool phones and retain their customers...but they still aren't offering phones up to par with what GSM carriers offer (think something along the lines of the Nokia 6600). The v710 is the closest I've seen to V...
I have to agree here. My service with Verizon is up 1/05. If by that time there aren't any quality new phones available, I'll go to GSM.
Verizon takes forever to get "new phones" and their plans cost more and they give less minutes on their America's Choice Plan.
As for coverage, GSM is close to par with CDMA. I don't live in the "outback".
Verizon, I have you for three more months, show me what you got!
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Its as simple as this: If Verizon wants to carry a V3 variant for CDMA, Motorola will make one for them. And, if the V3 is a big seller, Verizon will consider a phone of this type. Who knows? Maybe something is in the works already.
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fincher said:If Verizon releases a version of the V3, I'm your daddy.
Its as simple as this: If Verizon wants to carry a V3 variant for CDMA, Motorola will make one for them. And, if the V3 is a big seller, Verizon will consider a phone of this type. Who knows? Maybe something is in the works already.
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Perhaps the V3, perhaps not, but if ultrathin phones catch on (see no reason why they wouldn't, unless they're a lot more expensive to make), its a no-brainer that VZW would eventually offer them.
Its not like only Moto would be able to make them, forever and ever amen. 😉
Its not like only Moto would be able to make them, forever and ever amen. 😉
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