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itt

Apr 17, 2006, 1:17 PM
I heard that USCC by next month will be comning out with a new phone. The SLVR L7. I heard it's in the testing stage or has already passed the tests, any ideas?
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alejandro

Apr 17, 2006, 1:45 PM
someone lied to you.
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 8:01 AM
We are so behind the times in phones.....If we launch that phone expect it in 12-18 months
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fincher

Apr 18, 2006, 10:45 AM
A CDMA version of the SLVR is in the works but it won't be released until late summer. I have no idea if USCC will take it but its likely to be on Verizon. I'll take wagers, too.

As for USCC being way behind, well, that used to be the case. Its phone lineup has improved dramatically and will continue to get better, especially when EVDO is launched, though its possible EVDO will be for PDAs and laptops at first.
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 11:02 AM
fincher said:
A CDMA version of the SLVR is in the works but it won't be released until late summer. I have no idea if USCC will take it but its likely to be on Verizon. I'll take wagers, too.

As for USCC being way behind, well, that used to be the case. Its phone lineup has improved dramatically and will continue to get better, especially when EVDO is launched, though its possible EVDO will be for PDAs and laptops at first.


Used to be?? Are you serious?? When was the last time we launched a phone that was ahead of the curve?? We are well behind just about every other carrier. The lineup has improved, but we need to be on the cutting edge to really compete. Most people (Unfortunately) consider the phone...
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fincher

Apr 18, 2006, 11:15 AM
1. True nationwide does exist with its National Plans with no roaming. And data roaming is available in most markets now. It actually blankets the country whereas VZW's covers most of it.

2. Pricing for retail does stink. But, at least in Chicago, you can get the RAZR for $49 net. Its the retail pricing that blows.

3. USCC offered the CDMA RAZR within days after it came out with Alltel and VZW. While its likely Verizon will have exclusives on some models, USCC is dependent most of the time on a super-carrier taking a phone before USCC can get it, i.e., if USCC wanted a SLVR and no other CDMA carrier wanted one, well, tough luck for USCC.

FYI, I was a Verizon/Ameritech customer for seven years. Verizon offers great service but I left...
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 11:34 AM
Its not true nationwide. You have to live in one of the 6 markets to get service.

You can get the razr for that price (IN CHICAGO) but it ends up costing you 59.90 after its all said and done.

And you are correct about the pricing on plans, we beat everyone. But we don't offer data services in nearly all of the areas we provide national service. I sure would like to be able to check my voicemail, or use speedtalk when I travel.

Talk about improvement all you want, I've worked here for 5 years, so I know there has been a ton of improvement, but to compete it needs to be a lot more.
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fincher

Apr 18, 2006, 11:42 AM
Its an improvement from my vantage point. I check my voicemail in Vegas, Miami, Alabama, Ohio, etc. I also get my data in those places as long as I am pulling from a Verizon tower.

As you know, USCC is not a national carrier, but is a super-regional carrier. In Chicago, its on-par (or better) with all the big boys. So, for me, I have no major complaints. Even BT is fully open on the V3c -- a big selling point for me.

I pay $45 for 1500 national minutes with 4 lines. I'm the only data user among the four and data doesn't deduct from my minutes. I'm a very happy customer.
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 11:53 AM
I'm not saying you shouldn't be happy, I'm saying with a few improvements USCC could easily take cingulars spot as the #1 Carrier. A broader audience of customers, better NATIONWIDE phone pricing, and thats all it would take. Our plans already destroy everyone else's.
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fincher

Apr 18, 2006, 12:48 PM
h8rsnv said:
I'm not saying you shouldn't be happy, I'm saying with a few improvements USCC could easily take cingulars spot as the #1 Carrier. A broader audience of customers, better NATIONWIDE phone pricing, and thats all it would take. Our plans already destroy everyone else's.


Easily? Not a chance. I can list at least dozen reasons why your comment is off-the-wall.

USCC does want to be the best in the markets it serves and one method to attract customers is plan pricing but that can't be the only method. Any carrier in the same market would change its pricing to meet or beat the competition if that's what was necessary.
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 1:03 PM
Not true. Verizon and Nextel are perfect examples of that. It would take a lot to get them to lower their rates, we've about muscled other carriers out of our markets already. We compete with Verizon using their towers, have they lowered their rates??? No. Nextel no longer holds the 2way/walkie talkie monopoly, (every carrier offers it) have they lowered their rates?? No. In our markets we drop far less call then any other carrier & The only carrier that beats us in CS is Tmobile.

USCC is at a crossroads. They have the ability to conquer the cellular market. You can say all you want. I've been selling phone since before there was even minute packages. .35c a minute incoming and outgoing, bag phones, car phones all of it. I've been there...
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fincher

Apr 18, 2006, 1:27 PM
USCC cannot go true nationwide as its licensed in 26-27 states. It can only offer service to customers in those states.

Cingular does have a lot of churn but Verizon does not. Verizon will overtake Cingular within a year or less. Verizon does not have a need to lower rates as it continues to grow.

Nextel was bought out by Sprint; doesn't matter if other carriers offer PTT. That's just the natural evolution of the PTT service.

As for USCC using Verizon towers...USCC pays Verizon for the use but also has other things going on with Verizon, such as VZW using USCC towers in other markets. Its an amicable relationship.

Whatever...I like your spunk and vision but the fact is USCC will continue to be a solid, super-regional carrier with...
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s0lrac

Apr 18, 2006, 1:46 PM
READ THIS IN THE CINULAR FORUM... PRETTY INTERESTING IF YOU ASK ME...

(another intenal communication email) for the enjoyment of the Vzw fanboys in denial...


-The latest drive tests by independent, third-party researchers have confirmed that Cingular's network excellence continues to grow.
The following cities have achieved "most reliable" network and "fewest dropped calls" status among national carriers:

· Baton Rouge, La.

· Cincinnati, Ohio

· Fort Smith, Ark.

· Hammond, La.

· Jackson, Miss.

· Oklahoma City, Okla.

· Pine Bluff, Ark.

· Portland, Maine

· Washington, D.C., suburbs

These cities have achieved "most reliable" network status among national carriers:

· Bloomington, Ind.

· Cha...
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fincher

Apr 18, 2006, 1:56 PM
Hey, troller...We're not ripping Cingular. Its a fact Verizon will surpass Cingular. Its a fact Verizon was No. 1 in 17 of the 18 largest markets it serves except for Chicago, where USCC took the top spot.

Nothing wrong with Cingular but we don't care about Cingular.

This thread went off on a tangent due to someone thinking USCC can be the top carrier in terms of subscribers. I say it cannot be done despite the fact I think USCC is a solid carrier.
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s0lrac

Apr 18, 2006, 2:11 PM
What are your thoughts on T-Mobile???
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kmcfarlin

Apr 18, 2006, 2:19 PM
T-Mobile has great phones, and great customer service. But due to their usage of GSM, if you go five minutes off of a highway you will lose a substancial amount of service.
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 2:11 PM
Go back to the tmobile forum carlos
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s0lrac

Apr 18, 2006, 2:13 PM
😲 ... how rude!!! T-Mobile is a better carrier than USC anyday!!!
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 2:15 PM
I have Tmobile, and they are a great carrier, but you should still go back.
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s0lrac

Apr 18, 2006, 2:26 PM
I have seniority over you on phonescoop.com since Ive been a member for longer than you have... therefore YOU should leave!!!

You're not the boss of me!!!! 🤣
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 2:50 PM
I work for USCC, you are janitor. Therefore you should leave
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 2:51 PM
a janitor 😉
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s0lrac

Apr 18, 2006, 2:51 PM
why must you put me out there like that??? 🤭
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h8rsnv

Apr 18, 2006, 2:54 PM
you left me no choice.....Reason wasn't working so I resorted to name calling. Its a pretty sliding scale
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kmcfarlin

Apr 18, 2006, 2:18 PM
Every experience I have ever heard about, or experienced myself has ended up with me determining that Cingular will do anything to get sales. Verizon's prices are outrageous. That's great if they have the more up to date phones over USCC. But what point is there to get a phone if it freezes all the time, or if the defective rate is high.

Anyone who claims that USCC isn't growing does not know USCC. Maybe it will take a while for USCC to grow into a national carrier, but it will eventually get there.

fincher, just because you say something doesn't mean that is how it is.
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gordgirl24

Apr 19, 2006, 10:13 PM
Actually I believe that model will be launched end of 3rd quater beginning of 4th quarter. At least that was what I was told my our Motorola rep this past week.
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maine_phoneguy

Apr 18, 2006, 10:44 AM
Actually, the rumor is true....kinda. It looks like the PEBL/SLVR might be accepted around 3rd quarter.

Don't hold your breath.
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kmcfarlin

Apr 18, 2006, 2:21 PM
USCC will not come out with a GSM phone.
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maine_phoneguy

Apr 18, 2006, 2:34 PM
kmcfarlin said:
USCC will not come out with a GSM phone.


Yah think? 😕 I got my information from a Motorola rep. The Motorola RAZR started out in GSM land and we have that model now, right?
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alejandro

Apr 19, 2006, 12:02 PM
Regardless of tentative info, Motorola has not even made a move on marketing CDMA (probably have not even designed one) versions of the slvr or the pebl, so the fact that this person was told by a uscellular rep that us cellular will be carrying it is a lie.
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itt

Apr 19, 2006, 1:05 PM
you never know, but we'll see. It's not really highly doubtable. It doesn't take much for them to replace a chip board and especially if there going to be making money of it, why not?
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fincher

Apr 19, 2006, 1:47 PM
alejandro said:
Regardless of tentative info, Motorola has not even made a move on marketing CDMA (probably have not even designed one) versions of the slvr or the pebl, so the fact that this person was told by a uscellular rep that us cellular will be carrying it is a lie.


Unlikely a PEBL for CDMA but there is a SLVR for CDMA in the works and it will be out sometime this year, quite possibly for the back-to-school period.

Care to wager???
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alejandro

Apr 19, 2006, 3:07 PM
for us cellular? you really want to do that?
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fincher

Apr 19, 2006, 3:39 PM
alejandro said:
for us cellular? you really want to do that?


I don't want to wager for USCC but a CDMA SLVR is a solid bet, though I do believe USCC will strongly consider taking it.

Too early to judge...
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h8rsnv

Apr 19, 2006, 3:54 PM
I'll be willing to wager that by the end of the year I'll have 3400+ sales.
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alejandro

Apr 19, 2006, 4:13 PM
Ok, I can see a CDMA anything, but i gotta stop someone if they say for US cellular, and then beyond that, a bet on a timetable would be like wiping your ass with dollar bills that you lit your cigarettes with and then flushing them down the toilet.....
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h8rsnv

Apr 19, 2006, 4:22 PM
alejandro said:
Ok, I can see a CDMA anything, but i gotta stop someone if they say for US cellular, and then beyond that, a bet on a timetable would be like wiping your ass with dollar bills that you lit your cigarettes with and then flushing them down the toilet.....


hahahahahahaahahahaahaaa
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fincher

Apr 19, 2006, 10:05 PM
alejandro said:
Ok, I can see a CDMA anything, but i gotta stop someone if they say for US cellular, and then beyond that, a bet on a timetable would be like wiping your ass with dollar bills that you lit your cigarettes with and then flushing them down the toilet.....


That's why its called a wager. 😁
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itt

Apr 19, 2006, 9:41 AM
kmcfarlin said:
USCC will not come out with a GSM phone.



LOL... While motorola might make the phone GSM for other carriers, it doesn't mean they can't make CDMA for it. Just as CDMA phones were turned into GSM.
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