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If they "believe in something better"...

altryan

Sep 23, 2008, 9:44 AM
Why did they raise their rates, bring back the activation fees, and are still not even close to offering good high speed data access?

Is it because they are spending every ounce of cash available on a marginal advertising campaign?

Or are they just biding their time before TDS sells them off. You do realize USC biggest asset is inbound roaming from Verizon customers? ANd Verizon is aggressively expanding and using less and less (especially with the addition of 85% of Alltell's network), and a failded marketing campaign, and an increase in churn, and a faltering economy, and a low income customer base, and any of these other reasons spell out doom for this company.

And I cannot wait. I believe this company will no longer exist by 4...
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phonenerd24

Sep 23, 2008, 10:49 AM
1- they did not bring back activation fees. i have been with the company for more than 2+ years and have only had to add an activation fee maybe a handful of times.

2- raising rates? the only thing that got raised is the text rates, nothing more. i have heard they did that so all text,pix,vids, are going to be the same price and they are planning on making a universal plan "all you can text,pix,vid"

3- the cash that they are spending on advertising was just cash that they would have spent in other areas so technically they are not spending MORE, they are just taking the $ from another area and putting in there.

4- uscc is on the new york stock exchange and has not been effected by the mortgage crisis, and/or the crash that happened ...
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motosux

Sep 23, 2008, 11:41 AM
1) yes, they always have had activation fees, but they have been waived for extended periods, such as was the case with family lines for all of 2008 until Day 1 of Project Mythos - so therefore, yes they DID bring them back, which was stupid.

2) no, plan rates did not increase with mythos, but the majority of the phone prices did increase on Day 1 of Mythos. Also, text messaging doesn't hardly cost the company anything, so raising the rates was purely a way to make more money. The "cost" didn't increase any for USCC, so therefore it was unnecessary. And if they are going to go to an all inclusive "text/pix/vid" then why not do it already??? They used to offer unlimited pics for $5.95 a long while back but did away with that as soon as ...
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altryan

Sep 23, 2008, 5:44 PM
motosux said everything I would have, so on that note, thank you motosux.

And as for the current crisis, I never said that was going to be the fall of USCC...

What does affect them is that their "cash cow" markets are having some competetion introduced to them.

Also, you realize that a major source of revenue is the roaming partnerships that they have, and as other carriers expand into the market, that source of revenue disappears and they will be required to rely more heavily on service revenue to customers. Which means that eventually, their rates will continue to increase and they will lose their pricing edge that they currently have.

That means, their competetive advantage is gone, and they will exist as a sub-par super-reg...
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altryan

Sep 23, 2008, 5:46 PM
and maybe I was a little hasty on two years... I'll agree that it may be five 🙂
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BigSwole

Sep 24, 2008, 12:19 PM
Ok so i've been working for USC for over 3 years and activations have always been here. Yes we do have promo's everynow and then where they are waved but never last longer than a few weeks. Yes phone prices did jump back up with the launch of mythos but they have already came down I do think mythos is a waste of money that coulda been spent elsewhere but overall I still can make a call in places around here where other carriers cant so good luck with allhell and virzuck around here cause it was sketchy at best
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altryan

Sep 27, 2008, 3:34 PM
Im not arguing that activations have not always been around, I'm saying that until myhtos was launched, activation fees were waived for over a year... and all of a sudden it was neccessary to hike phone pricing and pricing for some services.

HOW was that something better?

What is this "something better"?

Is it customer service? Not according to JD Power and Associates, T-Mobile is the best there.

Is it the best phone? Because though selection has improved, USC is still playing second fiddle on that one.


Is it the level of training? Because all providers have extended training courses.


Is it AWESOME NEW COLORS? Is that it?

Yes I guess thats it, its the sweet new colors and some sweet new fonts.
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jjones6993

Oct 1, 2008, 12:31 AM
Act fees were not waived for more than a year. ALtryan you must be standing up cuz you are talking out of you ass right now.

If you looked at any of the published financial reports or had any clue at all you would know the following:

USCC has one of the best average recurring charge per user rates in the industry at approx $55. This will only increase with the growing popularity of smartphones and evdo.

They dont just let anyone into the NYSE. You have to be on very sound financial ground to make that move. The stock price is better than most in the wireless industry. As of close today:

Verizon-$32.09
ATT-$28.35
T-mobile-$15.23
sprint-$6.10
USCC- $46.92
based on these numbers it is obvious you have a point i mean USCC ...
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8091nafsbuc

Oct 1, 2008, 10:41 AM
Are you kidding me??? The level of training?

You must not have seen the commercials... I jump out of a plane with 1 week of training, can fly the plane with 4 weeks of training.

But I can't work here unless I have 6 weeks worth of training.


It's a great place to work and can be profitable on an individual sales person level. BUT, all companies with a limited business perspective will ultimately fail.

And USCC is clearly about to fail.

80% owned by TDS (I will take your word, I didn't look it up). The Carlson family will sell before it gets to bad.
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altryan

Oct 1, 2008, 3:08 PM
All it will take is a bad couple quarters
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