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Sprint Tightens the Noose

SteveHenke

Nov 28, 2005, 4:59 PM
Sprint recently took action that forces me (and other users) to pay for features that were available at no additional cost at the time certain products and services were originally purchased.

My conclusion is that for this reason you should refrain from purchasing products and services from Sprint because they will strive to exercise their option to modify their services so as to increase your costs wherever possible.

In my case I purchased a Sanyo MM-5600 phone and a couple of others for use on the family plan in March of 2005

I selected Sprint and the 5600 after I tested that its browser worked to read my office e-mail though its web based interface. This stopped working in mid-November of 2005. After reaching someone at Sprint ...
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kerri85

Nov 28, 2005, 5:17 PM
I think I may too be falling into your category.

I recently purchased the LG535 with the hopes of being able to store files on the expansion card such as games and applications.

The representative made it clear to me that I would be able to do this and it now appears that they were completely mistaken or worse yet, being intentionally deceptive.

It seems that the only way I can get any form of content is by giving Sprint more money and downloading from them only.

What seems even fishier to me is that I tried buying a game from them and more concerns have arised.

The game had an unlimited license, but apparently expires in one month. At that time I forsee myself having to download the game again which will incur the cost o...
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halo

Nov 28, 2005, 8:20 PM
The LG MM-535 has 20 Megs of built in memory. There shouldn't be a possible need to use the memory card. I had over 40 games (no joke), 10 applications (including a 1.5 Mb one) as well as some ringers and screensavers. And I didn't even use half of the phone's memory. Besides, trying to run an application or game off a memory card is just stupid because you'll lose porocessing power and time just reading off of the card. Your programs will run too slow.

What application were you reffering to when you said unlimited licence but expires in 90 days.
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kerri85

Nov 28, 2005, 10:48 PM

The LG MM-535 has 20 Megs of built in memory. There shouldn't be a possible need to use the memory card.


Then why make a product with features there is no need for? This seems highly counter-intuitive.


I had over 40 games (no joke), 10 applications (including a 1.5 Mb one) as well as some ringers and screensavers. And I didn't even use half of the phone's memory.


How did you acquire these? Did you have to purchase each one individually and download each one via a Vision pack/charge per kilobyte.
That is exactly what I do not want to do. Why keep an extra service or pay extra for things I should be able to do to begin with for free.

The fact of the matter is I canno...
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CptFarlow

Nov 29, 2005, 6:10 PM
Okay. Maybe I can shed some light onto the subject. As far as the memory card goes, when you download something, it is automatically set to go into the phone's memory. If you wanted to download it to the memory card, use the cable that came with the phone, hook it up to your computer and do it through there.

Kerri85 is right, running a program from the memory card would be negligible.

As far as the game goes, when you download something from Sprint, it goes into your My Content Manager. Games stay there forever, while ringers and screensavers will expire after the said amount of time. I downloaded a game when I first got Sprint, early 2004, and even when I get a new phone now, I can go and download it.

Now, you should not have to do...
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halo

Dec 3, 2005, 3:13 PM
Then why make a product with features there is no need for? This seems highly counter-intuitive.


I'm sorry, I think you miss understood me. I meant there shouldn't be any need to use the memory card for game/application storage. The card is designed for other uses such as photo and media storage. The phone comes with enough memory built in to not need a secondary storage device.

How did you acquire these? Did you have to purchase each one individually and download each one via a Vision pack/charge per kilobyte.
That is exactly what I do not want to do. Why keep an extra service or pay extra for things I should be able to do to begin with for free.


Most of them, believe it or n...
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packerpeaner

Nov 28, 2005, 5:21 PM
all cellular carriers discontinue phones and change services...why...because they come out with better ones. welcome to 2005.
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captainplooky

Nov 28, 2005, 5:33 PM
Yeah they do, especially when it can bring them in more money.

Did you even read what they wrote? If you did, did you comprehend it?


After reaching someone at Sprint who sufficiently understood and confirmed the circumstances he told me that Sprint had made changes to intentionally block access to third party web mail interfaces such as my company's. I was told that my option now was to purchase Spint's Business Connection service at an additional cost. Of course there is the additional cost to our small company to re-engineer its systems and practices to accommodate Sprint's constraints.


The change was not because of offering a better service, the change was made to stop people from using their devices...
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halo

Nov 28, 2005, 8:22 PM
What kind of interface does your company use?
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mupi

Nov 28, 2005, 11:19 PM
Actually, the assertion that the change was made to prevent "people from using their devices as they were orignally intended" is a mis-statement in any case.

It would be more accurate to say that Sprint finally closed a loophole that had previously allowed people to do something that the device was not originally intended to be able to do, namely, accessing 3rd party web mail interfaces. The fact that it "used to" be able to do that does not mean that the device was intended to have that functionality. In fact, I can't think of a single mobile phone that has the ability to access a "3rd party web mail interface". My cell phone has a POP client, and several PDA devices have similar functions; many of the PDA phones may be able to...
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agidman

Nov 28, 2005, 6:01 PM
Man o man where do I start with this one? There are so many holes in this story. First of all, a company never forces you to do anything. Second, Sprint Business Connection has always been around. It sounds like you were never sold this offer correctly, oops salesman mistake. It is not a new service. Third, you need to know your phones better. The Sanyo 5600 is able to have music downloaded without purchasing the music and the Sanyo 9000, Its EV-DO replacement, does the same thing. Oh yeah, so does the Samsung a900, Samsung a940 and the Samsung mm-800. Gee I am starting to feel a little better.

Where is my coffee? Damn, I am out of coffee!!!


Agidman
Spokane, Washington
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mupi

Nov 28, 2005, 11:28 PM
SteveHenke said:

I also discovered that the MM-5600 is no longer offered by Sprint. This is consistent with Sprint's philosophy because with this phone users were able to put music and podcasts on the phone's MiniSD card without using the Sprint system or being subject to charges from Sprint.


As previously mentioned, this is blatantly untrue, as sprint offers numerous phones in its current lineup that have exactly that capability. As a matter of record, the sprint phones are much more flexible in this manner than the same model released for use on the Verizon network (compare the A970 to the A940, for example).


I intend to find a service provider who provides wireless connectivity se
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sprextel

Nov 29, 2005, 5:45 PM
From your phone's browser, go to http://mini.opera.com
That is an HTML based browser that will let you go to any website/interface as your home pc, just a little slower.
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mupi

Nov 30, 2005, 12:58 AM
According to
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/operamini/ »
Opera Mini is currently available only in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Iceland. Wider availability will be announced.


How strictly they are enforcing that is another matter....

Also, the "data plan" on most cell phone companies specifically covers only those sites that are within the minibrowser app. So on Cingular, MediaNet, on ATT, M-Mode. It is that which I am referring to.

Many phones allow you to "break out" of those menus, but technically, you are paying for "Mmode" or "MediaNet" service, not "full internet access".

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sprextel

Dec 1, 2005, 12:12 PM
The website does say it's for use in the EU, however, I can assure you it is working perfectly on my sanyo 5600. Also, there is not difference between Vision and opera as far as usage goes. It is equivalent to using the menu on your browser and entering a URL like yahoo.
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dca

Nov 30, 2005, 3:10 PM
SteveHenke said:

Does anyone have a carrier and plan to recommend?



Sprint's Fair and Flexible with the unl Data Plan
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