Why Sprint???
Ok i am posting this on the top 5 carriers forum..... If i am starting new service... Why should i consider Sprint for my service? What makes Sprint better then the rest? And What makes Sprint unique(meaning what do theyhave that nobody else has)?
Im a light user on minutes but sometimes i use a little more than normal (normal=500-600) but i am a heavier data user.....what can you do which company do you suggest is best
Im a light user on minutes but sometimes i use a little more than normal (normal=500-600) but i am a heavier data user.....what can you do which company do you suggest is best
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if you want data... go with sprint. also sprint has fair and flex plans which are extremly good. i would chose either nextel or sprint. sprint is better with their data though.
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first, i have to rule out gsm providers by saying, simply, that sim chips make phones and phone networks insecure
so basically, if i were you, i'd be deciding between nextel (who is great at PTT and really durable phones, but not so good at data at all), sprint (who's decent at PTT though very few take advantage of RL preferring a phone call, and is also decent at data as they are launching EV-DO soon), and verizon (who is great at data having already launched EV-DO, but who stink at PTT with the worst PTT phones anywhere).
nextel's plans are pretty good, with free incoming calls...verizon's are almost exactly comparable to T-mobile's (which is to say, not very good)...but sprint undoubtedly leads the way with fair and flexible which i...
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so basically, if i were you, i'd be deciding between nextel (who is great at PTT and really durable phones, but not so good at data at all), sprint (who's decent at PTT though very few take advantage of RL preferring a phone call, and is also decent at data as they are launching EV-DO soon), and verizon (who is great at data having already launched EV-DO, but who stink at PTT with the worst PTT phones anywhere).
nextel's plans are pretty good, with free incoming calls...verizon's are almost exactly comparable to T-mobile's (which is to say, not very good)...but sprint undoubtedly leads the way with fair and flexible which i...
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Please explain why GSM phone are insecure. Please name one wireless virus.
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i never sold gsm phones, only experienced them as a t-mobile customer, so i am unable to specifically name a wireless virus
but that does not mean that gsm networks are completely secure - my accusations are of them being *less* secure than cdma networks...i am not trying to say that cdma networks are completely 100% secure (they certainly have their network security flaws) and i am also not trying to say that gsm networks are completely 100% open and insecure (they certainly do have their network security strengths) - i am saying that gsm networks are less secure than cdma networks...
and i back up my accusations with applied thinking techniques - and personal experience. although i can't name a specific wireless virus, that doesn't m...
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but that does not mean that gsm networks are completely secure - my accusations are of them being *less* secure than cdma networks...i am not trying to say that cdma networks are completely 100% secure (they certainly have their network security flaws) and i am also not trying to say that gsm networks are completely 100% open and insecure (they certainly do have their network security strengths) - i am saying that gsm networks are less secure than cdma networks...
and i back up my accusations with applied thinking techniques - and personal experience. although i can't name a specific wireless virus, that doesn't m...
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so i can steal oyur gsm phone and slap my sim card in it and use it with my service? dam! i am switching to gsm!!! no more paying for phones and renewing contracts for me 😛
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that is exactly why i stay with cdma providers!! i don't want someone stealing my phone!! if you want to move to gsm so that you can steal other people's phones, feel free, but be well advised that they can steal your phones, too!
you're gonna end up with a different phone for every day of the week, stuffed in your nightstand's top drawer...any smart burglar is gonna check that drawer...JACKPOT!!!
you're gonna end up with a different phone for every day of the week, stuffed in your nightstand's top drawer...any smart burglar is gonna check that drawer...JACKPOT!!!
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What a stupid argument ... I stay with CDMA providers because they make handsets that are lame , that nobody wants to steal.
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the handsets that cdma providers make are not lame, people's expectations of phones are insane!! i have a flip phone from sprint with camera w/flash, speakerphone, web, txting, ringer id/picture id, animated screen savers, downloadable java games, voice dialing (i can even tell it the digits and it will dial them!), speed dialing, one-touch dialing, i even have voice command on my plan so i can use voice dial without cluttering up my recently dialed numbers list with numbers i'll never dial again...and sprint also has this great new service called *call tones* that i could get my friends to hear a ringtone or whatever when they call me instead of that boring ringing...what more do you want?
BT - i agree and conced that would be a nice add...
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BT - i agree and conced that would be a nice add...
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Call tones? now THAT is a worth while feature!! What if you wanted to share your Superphonic ringtones with a friend? What if ... like I've done, you created your own ringtones and wanted to share them? I could email them, (and hope it makes it, the "network" has a 20% success rate uploading my pictures) but why not "beam" them over via BT? What if a real estate agent wanted to beam over a few pictures of a house to a client? What about that same agent who has to update her phone book entries from her computer to her phone? Sprint says business is beautiful, it sure is when we are trapped into using the network.
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and why not use the network??? it's free and guaranteed to work 100% of the time - you upload the pictures to your account, then email them to whoever
sending downloaded ringtones via BT (or IR, memory card or anything other than the network) is PIRACY...dudes and dudettes spend hours (for which they are heavily paid) to develop them, and just b/c you paid for it, your friend gets it for free?
created ringtones sent to a friend's phone? most likely, the two phones are incompatible...if they're not (meaning they are compatible), then use a data cable!!
syncing pc-phone books to a phone? get a pda-phone, or use a memory card!!
sending downloaded ringtones via BT (or IR, memory card or anything other than the network) is PIRACY...dudes and dudettes spend hours (for which they are heavily paid) to develop them, and just b/c you paid for it, your friend gets it for free?
created ringtones sent to a friend's phone? most likely, the two phones are incompatible...if they're not (meaning they are compatible), then use a data cable!!
syncing pc-phone books to a phone? get a pda-phone, or use a memory card!!
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good point ringers do not work on all phones
each manufaturer has its own operateing system in addition to that different models have different versions of os. most ringers will only work one one type of phone
each manufaturer has its own operateing system in addition to that different models have different versions of os. most ringers will only work one one type of phone
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Funny stuff - you automatically assume that BT will be used for illegal purposes while denouncing the numerous legitimate uses for it by suggesting more arduous ways of doing the same thing.
This line of reasoning hampers the development of all technologies.
This line of reasoning hampers the development of all technologies.
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in my experience, using a connection that is already configured and guaranteed to work is more reliable than setting up a brand new wireless connection (BT, IR ow whatever)
i'm trying to say that using the network is a better solution...
but you're right, and i do concede that this line of thinking does hamper technology development, or at least it goes to say that people will refuse to change unless they need to...
my gf's parents are on nextel and neither one of them know how to use a contacts list - i am just waiting for the day when all their kids move out and they have to figure it out on their own...
i'm trying to say that using the network is a better solution...
but you're right, and i do concede that this line of thinking does hamper technology development, or at least it goes to say that people will refuse to change unless they need to...
my gf's parents are on nextel and neither one of them know how to use a contacts list - i am just waiting for the day when all their kids move out and they have to figure it out on their own...
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and dont forget Sprint has an ESN system that only accepts SPRINT approved ESN's.. you cant even bring your vx8000 over to sprint.. as if you'd want to do that.. since sprint tv doesnt hold a candle to vcast in my opinion. anyways.. SPRINT = SECURE .... but if you ever want your MSL code.. just call and say you have an error 1012.. and you'll have it in no time.. just an inside tip.. later.
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Oh and about the stealing phones thing...right now the high risk GSM phones are those that come with bluetooth, such as the MOTO RAZR. Also data phones like the blackberry are also at high risk of theft. But if you have an ordinary phone like the Moto V300, Samsung E305, and so on, you are at lower risk of theft. I have the MOTO V300, and I am at lower risk now because who cares about a camera phone, everyone can get that now. The big thing is data features, and bluetooth. Everyone is mad about bluetooth, but not me. I think there are high risks with bluetooth.
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let me refute that...Most gsm phones come locked, and they even lock the phone to use only with your sim card. I have tried my sim card in my friends' phones (we all have T-Mobile) and my SIM card did not work.
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ok, I worked for Tmobile for 2 years, and i can honestly tell you that a tmobile sim card will work in any tmobile phone, unless there is a problem with either the sim card or the phone. The lock feature on the phones simply means that the phone cannot be used with another company unless you obtain a subsidy unlock code. toodles.
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1st- You have absolutly no proof about the GSM SIM cards unreliable. I work mainly with TDMA handset but also deal with the occasionnal GSM on Cingy orange side. No such things as a virus. Oh and by the way its a very poor argumentative technique to say that something must exist even if you can't name it. It might not exist. Do you have proof that it does. Me neither. Do you have proof it doesn't? Me neither. But until you show me some, we'll assume its no there. (Have you ever seen a troll?No?Well it still probably exist!!!)
2nd- Rollover minutes do NOT expire after 12 months. Thats a very common error that I used to do also. Rollover minutes pertaining to the first month will expire after the 12th month. But by then, you have a 13th mon...
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2nd- Rollover minutes do NOT expire after 12 months. Thats a very common error that I used to do also. Rollover minutes pertaining to the first month will expire after the 12th month. But by then, you have a 13th mon...
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I don't think I could add much to what the good Captain and Spike have said. I will say this, I am a part time developer of ringtones and I give away more than I sell. The other thing I'll say is the level of frustration with Sprint goes beyond this forum. I have visted other sites like this and although is it hard to gauge accurately, I would say the furstration level is growing. I might be way off base base as I have no inside info, but some folks like me are bored with the current offerings from the company and are about to be switchers.
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its called merger hold out ... cingular did the same thing.. just give it a few months
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There is actually a cell phone virus. I remember reading an article on this site about one that had shown up on the west coast. Here is the link to the story.
http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/ ... »
It didn't do much, only hit a couple of display phones in a store, but there is the potential to spread this type of virus through blue tooth.
http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/ ... »
It didn't do much, only hit a couple of display phones in a store, but there is the potential to spread this type of virus through blue tooth.
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ROLLOVER = PAYING FOR MINUTES YOU'LL NEVER USE. why would you ever want to buy more than you need and expect to use it later? Ask anyone with a huge Rollover pot stored up if they'll ever need those minutes and they'll say "maybe".. as in "I have no intention on doing so, barring some natural disaster or my foot being caught in the lawn mower"... ROLLOVER fans are the same people who store up crap for ages just to have it rot in their garage for 20 years. go with FAIR and FLEX... no less and no more than what you need. no matter how you use your plan.
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"ROLLOVER = PAYING FOR MINUTES YOU'LL NEVER USE"
your not paying extra for the rollover minutes. Cingular has pretty much the same plans and promo than other carriers. Rollover is an incentive to choose Cingy over others. There is no special price or fee for it.
"why would you ever want to buy more than you need and expect to use it later"
you said it yourself. BECAUSE YOU EXPECT TO USE IT LATER. Rollover isn't what we're selling. It's simply a security feature, so that even if you have spikes of usage you don't have to purchase a higher plan in prediction to those months.
"Ask anyone with a huge Rollover pot stored up if they'll ever need those minutes and they'll say "maybe".. "
Really? How many people did you ask? Or are...
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your not paying extra for the rollover minutes. Cingular has pretty much the same plans and promo than other carriers. Rollover is an incentive to choose Cingy over others. There is no special price or fee for it.
"why would you ever want to buy more than you need and expect to use it later"
you said it yourself. BECAUSE YOU EXPECT TO USE IT LATER. Rollover isn't what we're selling. It's simply a security feature, so that even if you have spikes of usage you don't have to purchase a higher plan in prediction to those months.
"Ask anyone with a huge Rollover pot stored up if they'll ever need those minutes and they'll say "maybe".. "
Really? How many people did you ask? Or are...
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thespike66 said:
your not paying extra for the rollover minutes. Cingular has pretty much the same plans and promo than other carriers. Rollover is an incentive to choose Cingy over others. There is no special price or fee for it.
Oh, but you are. You're paying for a plan that is more than what you need. It's like saying "I'm going to use 400 minutes a month, but I'll choose the 900 minute plan anyway, so that I have minutes to 'rollover.'" You're paying extra for a plan that has more minutes than you need. So you are paying extra.
Plus I hope you don't go over your minutes within the first month or two, before you have minutes to "rollover." Otherwise, it is $.45 per minute! (Instead of as...
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johall15 said:...thespike66 said:
your not paying extra for the rollover minutes. Cingular has pretty much the same plans and promo than other carriers. Rollover is an incentive to choose Cingy over others. There is no special price or fee for it.
Oh, but you are. You're paying for a plan that is more than what you need. It's like saying "I'm going to use 400 minutes a month, but I'll choose the 900 minute plan anyway, so that I have minutes to 'rollover.'" You're paying extra for a plan that has more minutes than you need. So you are paying extra.
Plus I hope you don't go over your minutes within the first month or two, before you have minutes to "rollover." Otherwise, it
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i have a simple mathematical exercise that i beleive will definitively prove that Fair&Flex is a better value than rollover:
let's say person A has cingy...450 minutes/mt for $39/mt
person B has sprint...300 minutes/mt for $30/mt
person A and person B both use 400 minutes/mt for the first six months on their plan, then, during the seventh month, *they have a death in the family* or *they go on vacation*, and they each use like 1250 minutes
month 1 - 400 minutes used
person A rolls 50 minutes over, pays $39
person B gets billed $5 for 100 extra minutes, pays $35
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total paid so far
A = $39
B = $35
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month 2 - 400 minutes used
A rolls-over another 50, has 100 saved, pays $39
B repeats month 1, pays $35
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let's say person A has cingy...450 minutes/mt for $39/mt
person B has sprint...300 minutes/mt for $30/mt
person A and person B both use 400 minutes/mt for the first six months on their plan, then, during the seventh month, *they have a death in the family* or *they go on vacation*, and they each use like 1250 minutes
month 1 - 400 minutes used
person A rolls 50 minutes over, pays $39
person B gets billed $5 for 100 extra minutes, pays $35
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total paid so far
A = $39
B = $35
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month 2 - 400 minutes used
A rolls-over another 50, has 100 saved, pays $39
B repeats month 1, pays $35
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😁 Thank You! Some people just don't get it that they ARE paying more with Rollover than they would with F&F.
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wonderdave said:
ROLLOVER = PAYING FOR MINUTES YOU'LL NEVER USE. why would you ever want to buy more than you need and expect to use it later? Ask anyone with a huge Rollover pot stored up if they'll ever need those minutes and they'll say "maybe".. as in "I have no intention on doing so, barring some natural disaster or my foot being caught in the lawn mower"... ROLLOVER fans are the same people who store up crap for ages just to have it rot in their garage for 20 years. go with FAIR and FLEX... no less and no more than what you need. no matter how you use your plan.
You are kidding right?
Roll over is getting all the minutes you pay for. Ican stay on a $39 450 min moth plan becasue of roll over an...
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That's the same question I asked myself everyday until I was finally out of contract and was able to tell them to shove it! Sprint SUCKS and if you go with them you will regret it!!! Consider yourself warned! I have and would recommend Alltel or US Cellular but they are not available in all areas so if you can't get one of them Verizon is your best bet then Cingular, don't do T-MO they have crappy coverage and Nextel has major capacity issues that they won't admit.(and I don't want to hear Nextel fan boys whine that it's not true I know three people who have Nextel and are counting the day til their contract exp)
whatever you do stay away from Sprint PCS (Piece of Crap Service) 🤣
whatever you do stay away from Sprint PCS (Piece of Crap Service) 🤣
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well you see, now we know! Thanks for the info by the way. Again, I don't see what SIM cards have to do with it and making the network more unreliable...
But again it must be me.
-Frenchie-
But again it must be me.
-Frenchie-
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I have to say that the structure of this forum makes it very difficult to keep track of conversations! I apologise if that sounds harsh, but it is true.
I shall just make this a general post rather than replying to individual people.
On the subject of GSM handset theft I can only comment on the situation in Europe because I have little direct experience of the U.S. GSM market. If someone has their handset stolen in Europe they simply phone their network who will then block both their handset and their SIM card. No European network will allow that handset or SIM card to be used after that.
The subject of mobile viruses is much hyped. There are some viruses, which can infect S60 handsets, but they are few in number and don't do ...
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I shall just make this a general post rather than replying to individual people.
On the subject of GSM handset theft I can only comment on the situation in Europe because I have little direct experience of the U.S. GSM market. If someone has their handset stolen in Europe they simply phone their network who will then block both their handset and their SIM card. No European network will allow that handset or SIM card to be used after that.
The subject of mobile viruses is much hyped. There are some viruses, which can infect S60 handsets, but they are few in number and don't do ...
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and its called protecting your connections.. you have to agree to a bluetooth connection to let it in.. I dont buy into the whole cell phone virus jazz. If it happens.. so be it.. if you arent being stupid with your phone, you wont get any.. just the same with your computer.
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I'll agree with you for the cellphone. Anyway I will not try to make an input over BT, since I almost exclusively work with TDMA phones. But computers are a little bit trickier. I once connected a newly built computer to the internet so that I could sneackernet a BIOS update on it. Except the webpage for the update, I didn't go anywhere.
Okay it might not have been the brightest thing, but after a scan, I had over a dozen spyware and one nasty virus that would make crash my internet connection very 30 seconds. Computers are just too open to everything.
-Frenchie-
Okay it might not have been the brightest thing, but after a scan, I had over a dozen spyware and one nasty virus that would make crash my internet connection very 30 seconds. Computers are just too open to everything.
-Frenchie-
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thespike66 said:
well you see, now we know! Thanks for the info by the way. Again, I don't see what SIM cards have to do with it and making the network more unreliable...
But again it must be me.
-Frenchie-
Exactly atmospheric conditions, tower proximity, quality of handset, network traffic make an impact on your call not a SIM card
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bolthead said:thespike66 said:
well you see, now we know! Thanks for the info by the way. Again, I don't see what SIM cards have to do with it and making the network more unreliable...
But again it must be me.
-Frenchie-
Exactly atmospheric conditions, tower proximity, quality of handset, network traffic make an impact on your call not a SIM card
I think what Spike was asking is, there is some debate as to reliability, security wise. Why are GSM networks deemed a security risk just because the phones have SIM cards? Some folks think theft is an option. If you had an older GSM phone and wanted a new one, just steal a new phone and put your old SIM card in there! I...
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I use CDMA but GSM phones are locked to a specific carrier so you can't use a Cingular SIM in a T-Mo phone you would need an unlocked phone. But I also know that most carriers CDMA and GSM do not check the validity of a handset you activate with them just that it is compatible on their system. You can do an ESN change for CDMA phones over the phone for all of the major carriers without ?'s, so the argument of security for a stolen phone is bogus.
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Really? I knew you could change phones on a CDMA network, (who hasn't changed?) but I thought they were more secure. OK, you'd be right then, the "stolen phone theory" just flew out the window.
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Wrong! Sprint does check the validity of the Esn. If it is reported lost or stolen, you cannot activate it.
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