sprint roaming
Hello, when roaming outside of Sprint's network is it primarily analog service, digital, or a combination of both. I am not a Sprint customer, but I am researching Sprint and Verizon. Thanks
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except that both sprint and verizon roam on each others networks when they need to.
both have covered all major cities and some highway, each covered highway in different parts of the country.
both have covered all major cities and some highway, each covered highway in different parts of the country.
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what are u talking about? sprint and verizon dont have roaming agreements with eachother. where did u get that one from? sprint roams majority of the time on analog because majority of their phones are dual band 1900mhz pcs/analog. verizon is 800mhz/1900mhz. verizon by far has 3x more coverage and alot better service than sprint. their cust base is 3x larger too, so more people u know with vzw more you benefit with free in-network calling aka mobile to mobile. verizon is the fastest growing and has the lowest churn (lost of customers) rate, where sprint ranks 4th or 5th in new cust gains and 2nd in cust lost (meaning they lose alot of customers). they are getting better though. tmobile is the worst at keeping customers. congrats to spri...
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sprints phone are triband: 1900cdma, 800cdma, and 800 analog? ever heard of digital roaming? that is where sprint and verizon roam on each other, there networks are almost the same size though so it doesn't happen much, mostly verizon roams on sprint for highway and small city coverage, sprint uses verizons analog most of the time.
i know the guy at sprint who set up the agreement!
i know the guy at sprint who set up the agreement!
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is this a substantiated claim?...
...i am thinking of getting a treo 600 from Sprint, but it's only worth it if i can get roaming CDMA in Verizon covered areas...
...i live in NC, and although i mostly travel the highways, there are still lots of byways off Sprint's beaten path...and since the Verizon network supposedly covers all of NC (or at least most) for voice, i'd be ok if i could roam on their network...
...it'd be nice to find this out before i get one instead of having to return it and getting stuck in a contract...
...any help would be appreciated...
thanks...
...i am thinking of getting a treo 600 from Sprint, but it's only worth it if i can get roaming CDMA in Verizon covered areas...
...i live in NC, and although i mostly travel the highways, there are still lots of byways off Sprint's beaten path...and since the Verizon network supposedly covers all of NC (or at least most) for voice, i'd be ok if i could roam on their network...
...it'd be nice to find this out before i get one instead of having to return it and getting stuck in a contract...
...any help would be appreciated...
thanks...
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if you go into a sprint store around you they would actually be able to look it up on there system what kind of coverage you would get. weather itis sprint or roaming.
but honestly go with the i500
but honestly go with the i500
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the guys at the store weren't sure how that coverage would pan out, or even if the treo would roam in CDMA...i got that off the website...
...and i considered the i500, but it doesn't seem quite as intuitive and doesn't have the expansion port...
...also, there's a deal on it from Best Buy...
...if i could wait until november, i'd just get the i550, which has the same features (expansion, etc.), and is just as small as the i500...but my phone's on it's last legs, and my contract is up with att...
...oh yeah...and i'm an impatient kinda guy...
...and i considered the i500, but it doesn't seem quite as intuitive and doesn't have the expansion port...
...also, there's a deal on it from Best Buy...
...if i could wait until november, i'd just get the i550, which has the same features (expansion, etc.), and is just as small as the i500...but my phone's on it's last legs, and my contract is up with att...
...oh yeah...and i'm an impatient kinda guy...
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sorry about the lack of service at the sprint store.
ok let me start off by telling you a little abotu the treo 600 it is a singel band phone but it is also tri moded (sonds like an oxymoron i know) it does not do amps which is what would make it a dual band how ever it does do both the 800 mhz cdma andt he 1900 mhz cdma.
about roaming. verizon is largely 800 mhz cdma. however on the east coast ( i thought that is where you said you were from) there are a lot of local 1900 mhz carriers.
now at the sprint store the typical answer to the troe 600 roaming question is "it will work in some of the aria but it will be spotty" now if you are persistant they actually have a program they can look it up and it will show what bandwidths are...
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ok let me start off by telling you a little abotu the treo 600 it is a singel band phone but it is also tri moded (sonds like an oxymoron i know) it does not do amps which is what would make it a dual band how ever it does do both the 800 mhz cdma andt he 1900 mhz cdma.
about roaming. verizon is largely 800 mhz cdma. however on the east coast ( i thought that is where you said you were from) there are a lot of local 1900 mhz carriers.
now at the sprint store the typical answer to the troe 600 roaming question is "it will work in some of the aria but it will be spotty" now if you are persistant they actually have a program they can look it up and it will show what bandwidths are...
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hrm...
...i was hoping i could still get the equip replacement plan if i bought it from Best Buy... âšī¸
...but i had already heard the gripe about screen damage, and had planned to get it...
...i'll be sure to verify that with BB and Sprint before i purchase anything...
...i figured that there would be some gaps in coverage, there's plenty of gaps with my current analog capable phone from ATT...but the gaps should be pretty small if i can roam on Verizon's network...
...and thanks for the #...i'll definately have to give them a call to check coverage...PCS coverage in NC is actually pretty darn good, covering almost all the major cities, but i'm sure i can come up with a few towns off the beaten path to figure out if i can get...
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...i was hoping i could still get the equip replacement plan if i bought it from Best Buy... âšī¸
...but i had already heard the gripe about screen damage, and had planned to get it...
...i'll be sure to verify that with BB and Sprint before i purchase anything...
...i figured that there would be some gaps in coverage, there's plenty of gaps with my current analog capable phone from ATT...but the gaps should be pretty small if i can roam on Verizon's network...
...and thanks for the #...i'll definately have to give them a call to check coverage...PCS coverage in NC is actually pretty darn good, covering almost all the major cities, but i'm sure i can come up with a few towns off the beaten path to figure out if i can get...
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I can shed some light on this for you. First you can purchase a phone at BBY and add Sprints Equipment Replacement. Second, what rate plan were you considering? On sprints higher rate plans you are eligible to receive a second line at no cost. If this works for you choose the free phone to use in situations where you do not have coverage in digital mode.
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I like Verizon, however being of course loyal to Sprint, I get alot of customers that are not given the chance with Verizon, and Sprint allow them to prove themselves. I agree with what you're saying however what do you have against Sprint? Verizon is far to expensive, coverage is good however you don't get alot for what you pay for, the PPT is lacking and their Get It Now is no comparison to Sprint's PCS Vision. Verizon has a good market, however it is mostly made up of patchwork done through mergers, that why they are the largest, not for long I guess, the king of the hill just fell down. Good luck to all you Cingular and ATT customers, feel for ya.
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Feel for ATT and Cingular customers? Gee why? Because Cingular PRE-BUYOUT kicks your butt in pure digital coverage? Because BOTH companies have been kicking Sprint's butt in gross adds, network expansion, ARPU and every other significant measure for so long you've forgotten how to BRUISE? I congratulate Sprint for moving up to number 4...even though it took a player getting bought out to move up! LOL
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phonepimp3376 said:
Feel for ATT and Cingular customers? Gee why? Because Cingular PRE-BUYOUT kicks your butt in pure digital coverage? Because BOTH companies have been kicking Sprint's butt in gross adds, network expansion, ARPU and every other significant measure for so long you've forgotten how to BRUISE? I congratulate Sprint for moving up to number 4...even though it took a player getting bought out to move up! LOL
Aw, that was mean.
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Unlike Cingular, ATTWS and Verizon at least Sprint has the guts to build a nationwide network and take the heat for it.
Let me ask you why AT&T (not wireless) is going to operate an MVNO on the Sprint network and not on the "superior" Cingular network?
When you look at raw digital coverage we should really ask why Cingular and ATTWS don't have more. After all they have had an additional 11 years in the industry. No it's all about profit taking and taking the cheap way out (GSM) All things considered Sprint has grown at a much faster rate than any other carrier in the industry.
Sprint did not exist in the industry until 1995 and then they operated a GSM network in only Baltimore and Washington DC. When CDMA became a commercial real...
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Let me ask you why AT&T (not wireless) is going to operate an MVNO on the Sprint network and not on the "superior" Cingular network?
When you look at raw digital coverage we should really ask why Cingular and ATTWS don't have more. After all they have had an additional 11 years in the industry. No it's all about profit taking and taking the cheap way out (GSM) All things considered Sprint has grown at a much faster rate than any other carrier in the industry.
Sprint did not exist in the industry until 1995 and then they operated a GSM network in only Baltimore and Washington DC. When CDMA became a commercial real...
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Jeff...
Come on! NATIONWIDE? When is the last time you looked at a coverage map for Sprint? Strip out all the analog (read:NONDIGITAL) coverage and there is hardly anything there. And if you check your history, Cingular is a NEWER player to the national market than Sprint.
Can't say about tower construction nationwide, but Cingular is adding 485 towers in New England alone this year, with 450 slated for next year. In addition we are continuing our GSM overlay, which is now over 90% completed.
All this while completing the process to undertake the largest acquisition in US wireless history.
I have never fallen into the thinking that only WCDMA is 3G, and know the industry just a little better than that. We know better than to go 3G ...
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Come on! NATIONWIDE? When is the last time you looked at a coverage map for Sprint? Strip out all the analog (read:NONDIGITAL) coverage and there is hardly anything there. And if you check your history, Cingular is a NEWER player to the national market than Sprint.
Can't say about tower construction nationwide, but Cingular is adding 485 towers in New England alone this year, with 450 slated for next year. In addition we are continuing our GSM overlay, which is now over 90% completed.
All this while completing the process to undertake the largest acquisition in US wireless history.
I have never fallen into the thinking that only WCDMA is 3G, and know the industry just a little better than that. We know better than to go 3G ...
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Yeah, it also took a buyout to become maybe the largest digital carrier, left you guys kinda broke huh? Good luck Stickular and all you poor AT&T Wireless carriers. i think alot of people are going to leave AT&T Wireless once they see how poor cingular's coverage is. Also cingular being 45% bellsouth is still considered an older company. Another thing why are there soooo many complaints from Cingular customer that they are contantly in "Cingular Extend"? And another thing you maps coverage is so overestimated, very misleading, have some truth to your coverage before depicting a map. What's your beef with Sprint? Alittle envious of the "built from the ground up" all digital coverage which allows you to reach more than 280 mill customers in 50...
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Kinda broke? Hardly. Buyout? Scream that at every SMART carrier out there. Poor coverage? Yeah, right. Not in most major markets. A good 40% of new activations and port-ins I do are from Sprint, because they can't get coverage outside the interstate system. All digital my eye. You own coverage maps references the "analog roaming" which accounts for more than 50% of your so-called "built from the ground up all digital network". And I KNOW you aren't claiming Sprint has 280 million customers...please tell me you're not. Yes we have nationwide mobile to mobile. Not you can call anyone M2M from within your local coverage area M2M. 24 million customers worth of Nationwide M2M.
When is your "superior" network and "fastest growing" carrier gonna...
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Besides marketing on a competitor's forum?
Check out what mountainwireless.com says about Cingular.
The components of Cingular have been in business since the 1980's What has taken you so long?
Sprint has been in business since 1995 and has roughly 20 million customers. (people split hairs about affiliate customers but they are activated through Sprint's activation centers and are Sprint customers)
One component of the new Cingular is bleeding over a quarter million net customers every quarter.
Check out what mountainwireless.com says about Cingular.
The components of Cingular have been in business since the 1980's What has taken you so long?
Sprint has been in business since 1995 and has roughly 20 million customers. (people split hairs about affiliate customers but they are activated through Sprint's activation centers and are Sprint customers)
One component of the new Cingular is bleeding over a quarter million net customers every quarter.
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Thank you Jeff for your input, why doesn't phonepimp stay in his forum? I don't understand why some come over to other forums just to start trash, before hearing his negative input I had some respect for cingular, even though I did cancel my service and gladly paid the $240 early term fee because I couldn't make a phone call from in my house (Tampa is a very big market) but have superior coverage with Sprint and Verizon.
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Actually Cingular comes from a partnership between BellSouth and SBC. SBC is what used to be SBC, Ameritech and Pactel. With the exception of the PacTel properties, components of Cingular have been in the business since the mid 1980s.
Kind of a sidebar:
If you look where the highest churn is it will inevitably be where the primary band used is PCS. Unfortunately PCS does not travel the distances as well as cellular and takes anywhere from 2-4 towers to cover what 1 cellular tower does.
It doesn't matter whether the coverage used is Sprint's native coverage because when a customer is on Free&Clear America they can make or receive voice calls everywhere there is either CDMA or analog. Joe customer doesn't care who carries the call as lo...
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Kind of a sidebar:
If you look where the highest churn is it will inevitably be where the primary band used is PCS. Unfortunately PCS does not travel the distances as well as cellular and takes anywhere from 2-4 towers to cover what 1 cellular tower does.
It doesn't matter whether the coverage used is Sprint's native coverage because when a customer is on Free&Clear America they can make or receive voice calls everywhere there is either CDMA or analog. Joe customer doesn't care who carries the call as lo...
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SPCSVZWJeff said:
Phonepimp is in the Northeast where coverage is very good by most carriers. He would probably speak less enthusiastically about coverage if he were here in the Northwest where between Cingular and ATTWS they are still about half the coverage of Verizon and US Cellular. ATTWS, T-Mo and Cingular are not very popular here with their mentality about covering Metros and Interstate corridors when many people live and work outside of Metro areas.
In the cities I have lived in ATTWS, Cingular and T-Mo don't even cover the entire city limits and have no immediate plans to. This includes a 3 million pops metro and a 1.5 million pops metro. There is no excuse for this except they don't want to spend the money.
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Phonepimp is in the Northeast where coverage is very good by most carriers. He would probably speak less enthusiastically about coverage if he were here in the Northwest where between Cingular and ATTWS they are still about half the coverage of Verizon and US Cellular. ATTWS, T-Mo and Cingular are not very popular here with their mentality about covering Metros and Interstate corridors when many people live and work outside of Metro areas.
In the cities I have lived in ATTWS, Cingular and T-Mo don't even cover the entire city limits and have no immediate plans to. This includes a 3 million pops metro and a 1.5 million pops metro. There is no excuse for this except they don't want to spend the money.
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ok i am a little confused.... ok cingular (includeing at&t wireless) is the largest, then verizon #2 and you said sprint is # 4
who is #3?
as for cingular coverage... before the merger in a lot of cities they really did have horable coverage, since the merdger they really have significantly increased there coverage....
i am a firm suporter of sprint but hey cingular buying out at&t was a great move for them if they have the money tofallow threw but with things currently as they are in the tec market that remains to be seen but hey in about 2 years we will know.
and as for who is 3g and who is not 3g is the biggest grey aria i have ever seen. some say north america is only 2.6g i mean come on talk about grey.
but in all fair...
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who is #3?
as for cingular coverage... before the merger in a lot of cities they really did have horable coverage, since the merdger they really have significantly increased there coverage....
i am a firm suporter of sprint but hey cingular buying out at&t was a great move for them if they have the money tofallow threw but with things currently as they are in the tec market that remains to be seen but hey in about 2 years we will know.
and as for who is 3g and who is not 3g is the biggest grey aria i have ever seen. some say north america is only 2.6g i mean come on talk about grey.
but in all fair...
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ok i am a little confused.... ok cingular (includeing at&t wireless) is the largest, then verizon #2 and you said sprint is # 4
who is #3?
as for cingular coverage... before the merger in a lot of cities they really did have horable coverage, since the merdger they really have significantly increased there coverage....
i am a firm suporter of sprint but hey cingular buying out at&t was a great move for them if they have the money tofallow threw but with things currently as they are in the tec market that remains to be seen but hey in about 2 years we will know.
and as for who is 3g and who is not 3g is the biggest grey aria i have ever seen. some say north america is only 2.6g i mean come on
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Dude you need to go back to school, are you a Verizon spokesperson are you getting paid to inform us of false info? Get some education before posting...
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Actually I apologize because I am a supporter for Verizon, although faithful to Sprint, and stand by CDMA.
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ricotatl -
I was brought into this thread by your comments about AT&T and Cingular. Mostly I am happy to just read the threads for information, but it seems you have some problem with other carriers, and that invites discussion. I am sure I am not the only poster here who has an allegiance to another carrier. As I peruse these forums, I find a number of people who know NOTHING about another carrier bashing them with no knowlegde whatsoever. At least I attempt to have my facts straight.
I was brought into this thread by your comments about AT&T and Cingular. Mostly I am happy to just read the threads for information, but it seems you have some problem with other carriers, and that invites discussion. I am sure I am not the only poster here who has an allegiance to another carrier. As I peruse these forums, I find a number of people who know NOTHING about another carrier bashing them with no knowlegde whatsoever. At least I attempt to have my facts straight.
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phonepimp3376 said:We really should get lives, shouldn't we?
I am sure I am not the only poster here who has an allegiance to another carrier.
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While all that may be true, Jeff, Sprint still CHARGES their customers for off net roaming and long distance while roaming off-net, do they not? According to the latest info I have on Free & Clear (5/14/2004) the off-net charge is .50/minute and .25/minute for LD off-net. Not to mention that Sprint does NOT offer true nationwide M2M or N&W, but instead charges customers to use those features outside a limited area.
I reference Sprint's own materials; is this info still correct?
I reference Sprint's own materials; is this info still correct?
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that is half true.
if you spend an extra 5$ a month then all your roaming is included.
and about the m2m it is nation wide. while you are on the sprint network all m2m calling is unlimited. and that is on there entire network not the "enhanced network" or the "local coverage network"
n&w mins how ever are nights and weekend no mater where ever you are whether on or off the network.
if you spend an extra 5$ a month then all your roaming is included.
and about the m2m it is nation wide. while you are on the sprint network all m2m calling is unlimited. and that is on there entire network not the "enhanced network" or the "local coverage network"
n&w mins how ever are nights and weekend no mater where ever you are whether on or off the network.
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It also says on Sprint that while you can get your roaming included.. that is only if you spend less than half of the time roaming. And I heard that m2m is only included on 2 yr agreements... it's what my friend who just got sprint told me.
I am not here to bash Sprint either. I used to have Sprint like two years ago and while they were pretty good then, I remember how bad roaming was too.. $282 bill for roaming in Florida... I was in big trouble then.
I am not here to bash Sprint either. I used to have Sprint like two years ago and while they were pretty good then, I remember how bad roaming was too.. $282 bill for roaming in Florida... I was in big trouble then.
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They have another plan structure called Free and Clear America where you can use up to 50% of your total minutes on other networks without roaming or long distance charges. These plans are $5 more than standard Free and Clear plans but the $5 charge is at account level which means that all lines on the account get the benefit for $5 total, not $5 per line. đ In the coverage challenged Northwest these plans make Sprint the only peer to Verizon and US Cellular in voice coverage.
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the 50% of the mins in roaming is very misleading. the truth is you can use all of your mins in roaming if you want. how ever if you use more then 50% system flags go off.
the first moth you do that sprint sends you a letter saying "we noticed you used over 50% of your mins in roam please do not."
if you do this a second month IN A ROW you will receive another letter. "we noticed you used over 50% of your Min's in roam please do not. if you continue to do so the roam feature will be removed."
if you do it a third month IN A ROW you will receive a third letter "we noticed you used over 50% of your mins in roam please do not. if you continue to do so the roam feature will be removed."
on the 4th month IN A ROW. that feature wil...
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the first moth you do that sprint sends you a letter saying "we noticed you used over 50% of your mins in roam please do not."
if you do this a second month IN A ROW you will receive another letter. "we noticed you used over 50% of your Min's in roam please do not. if you continue to do so the roam feature will be removed."
if you do it a third month IN A ROW you will receive a third letter "we noticed you used over 50% of your mins in roam please do not. if you continue to do so the roam feature will be removed."
on the 4th month IN A ROW. that feature wil...
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Okay, now everyone seems to misunderstand how Free and Clear America really works. This is not 50% of your anytime minutes. It is 50% of your usage. This is stated in all Sprint literature. So if you have a 500 minute plan and only use 400 minutes, then you can use 200 minutes in a roaming area.
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It seems there is much confusion about roaming agreements.
Sprint and Verizon are each others largest roaming partners. Sprint customers who roam on Verizon, Alltel, U.S. Cellular or any other CDMA carrier roam on their digital network. The only time analog is used is those occasions where a Sprint customer is in an area only supported by analog. On sprintpcs.com you can view both the analog and the digital roaming areas.
I understand the confusion because digital roaming agreements for Sprint are relatively new, only a year or so old.
WHat this means of course is that the entire Sprint network is opened up to Verizon customers in markets where they don't have a license and the entire Verizon, U.S. Cellular (a bigger player than th...
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Sprint and Verizon are each others largest roaming partners. Sprint customers who roam on Verizon, Alltel, U.S. Cellular or any other CDMA carrier roam on their digital network. The only time analog is used is those occasions where a Sprint customer is in an area only supported by analog. On sprintpcs.com you can view both the analog and the digital roaming areas.
I understand the confusion because digital roaming agreements for Sprint are relatively new, only a year or so old.
WHat this means of course is that the entire Sprint network is opened up to Verizon customers in markets where they don't have a license and the entire Verizon, U.S. Cellular (a bigger player than th...
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