shadedpain4 said:
I thought the FCC was sick to approve the ones they have already....

I'm with you on that one man! 🙄

How can you justify that? VZW buying Sprint/Nextel is very different from previous mergers. There's no relevance.

i think vodaphone will buy sprint/nextel and sell their stake in verizon wireless.

Less companies means less competition. Less competition is bad for the consumer (that's why monopolies are illegal). The previous mergers have made for less major cell companies. This merger would increase that problem. In my opinion there are already too few, which is why i thought the FCC made a mistake in approving the previous mergers. Allowing more mergers would again increase the problem and give us less competition.

You know... as often as i hear less competition means higher prices... Yes, it is a rule of thumb in business... but the wireless industry has steadily been getting smaller and smaller... and surprisingly so have the prices... So I don't necessarily agree that less competition would be worse... I believe a monopoly would be horrible... but the recent mergers and the coming mergers are just presenting more benefits for the consumer and prices have stayed competitive... In fact... they still get lower, promo's are still offered... etc...

You're taking one situation and going extreme with it automatically jumping to the "M" word... Has anyone actually tallied the regional carriers in the US? And keep in mind the national carriers are still i...
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I seriously doubt it will happen simple cause of the big "M" word, the government would never let it happen, cause verizon would be getting way to much money, that's what the 4 companies that verizon is already made up of and then Sprint and Nextel, never.

I agree it would never happen... My posts were in regards that it's a "miracle" the FCC approved the recent mergers...

why would they get rid of vodaphone? well in order for them to possibility get approval by the doj, ftc and fcc they would have to probably sell their stake in verizon wireless. if they didnt they dont have the money to pay for the new sprint/nextel becuase thats probably around 70-80 billion dollar market cap/value and verizon doesnt have that. they have a lot of debt.

vodaphone didnt give verizon the thumbs up. vodaphone denied that rumor that was going around. they said they have never talked to verizon about merging or buying out sprint..

whatever verizon or voda will do with this new nextel/sprint or even another carrier they might have to sell its stake in verizon wireless.
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Actually... VZW and Vodafone has a great relationship... and Vodafone has expressed it personally does not want in the american market... They just want to watch from the sidelines... VZW would never get rid of Vodafone... That is a financial backing VZW would never risk losing... You speak of Vodafone as if they're nobodies... You forget... Vodafone is the #1 Wireless Carrier in the world...

thats true, i relize that. but vodaphone i think wants to own 100 percent of a company not 45 percent they own in vzw. in this telecom industry its all about consolidation.

as people said in these message boards companies can change their minds very quickly. the euro is very cheap so a good buy in a united states cellular company would be a good buy. the problem is vodaphone has to get rid of their stake in vzw, which i belive they would do.. like i mentioned they want to own 100 percent of a company. anyone does.

we will see as time progresses. what i think in the future that vodaphone will sell their vzw share and buy nextel/sprint. then verizon would go after alltel. thats what i call for in the future after this consolidation tha...
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I dunno. 45% is a really good number. 100% means you have to run the company and are liable. It also means you take all the risk. At 45% you don't have a controling share but you do have enough to have your input into major discisions. If something goes wrong they can just say "Oh you guys screwed up and owe us money" or if there is a big deal they can throw their money in the pot to make the company biger and increase their profits. Its a very nice percent.

yea that is true. but also if you only own 45 percent of the company you dont make many decisions becuase the other 55 percent stake that verizon has can make pretty much all of the decisions becuase they have a majority stake in the company. also 45 percent only gets 45 percent or so of the revenue instead of owning 100 percent which you get 100 percent of the revenues. plus you get to decide becuase you have 100 percent stake in any decision making you get. (obviously the shareholders have a lot to say but the decision making from the execs with 3g etc.. is basically done by the high mgmt.)

all i have to say is that 100 percent is better then 45 percent and i think vodaphone wants to look for a company that is a good wireless (pure) in...
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you make one huge assumption voda has 45% of the stock that is true but you make the assumption that own other person owns the other 55% tha tis not true there are hundreds if not thousands that own the other 55%

voda only needs to own 45% of the stock the run the company. 45% gets them controlling majority. what most people fail to realize is that every company has what is called an annual meeting that is where once a year the stock holders get together to vote on issues it is pretty much guaranteed that less then 10% of the stock will not be represented.

but this is really really off topic though....

alrighty...

Given a company could change their mind... But right now vodafone has a sweet deal... nothing but profit comes from owning 45% in VZW... also... Why would vodafone have to give up their stake in VZW to purchase Sprint or Nextel or anyone else? Vodafone is not active in the USA so is technically not a competitor... So the same regulations would not apply for them... if given the opportunity Vodafone could have a stake in every US Carrier without being regulated... That makes no sense why they would have to give up their stake in VZW