Major Flaw with Blue Tooth phones
I came across this in wired today. This is why I really don't want a phone that has BT
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,64463,00.ht ... »
http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,64463,00.ht ... »
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This site is VZW approved, you should be able to see it?
The actual artical has pictures of the BT Rifle that is refferenced, its pretty weird looking.
But here it is:
Serious flaws discovered in Bluetooth technology used in mobile phones can let an attacker remotely download contact information from victims' address books, read their calendar appointments or peruse text messages on their phones to conduct corporate espionage.
An attacker could even plant phony text messages in a phone's memory, or turn the phone sitting in a victim's pocket or on a restaurant table top into a listening device to pick up private conversations in the phone's vicinity. Most types of attacks could be conducted without leaving a trace.
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The actual artical has pictures of the BT Rifle that is refferenced, its pretty weird looking.
But here it is:
Serious flaws discovered in Bluetooth technology used in mobile phones can let an attacker remotely download contact information from victims' address books, read their calendar appointments or peruse text messages on their phones to conduct corporate espionage.
An attacker could even plant phony text messages in a phone's memory, or turn the phone sitting in a victim's pocket or on a restaurant table top into a listening device to pick up private conversations in the phone's vicinity. Most types of attacks could be conducted without leaving a trace.
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This dosen't suprise me my friend does something similar to wireless routers in people's houses. The government also does something similar to all cell-phones bluetooth or not thanks to the patriot act....
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Something I wonder was that with the problems with the watered down bluetooth that you find in Verizon's moto710 is something to combat this. There was that one guy who posted the e-mail stating that Verizon is going to release a software update to enable more of the features but for now to combat this first thing is just to disable the things that allow this. Then turn it it back on once its fixed. This is just speculation though, but I do know Verizon is frantic about keeping things secure.
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So I guess you don't use MS Windows products because they are always having security issues, and I guess you will not use broadband because it's always on and OMG people can intercept your cell phone conversations so I guess you better quit talking on your phone too? Does anyone now days take responsibility for their own lives? Do you want to run & hide because the sky is falling chicken little? As the song says... "Get over it!"
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Geeze, I don't know what the heck I was thinking letting the public know who may wish to be careful of such things. I'm so silly, forgive me for this.
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WynneFox said:
Geeze, I don't know what the heck I was thinking letting the public know who may wish to be careful of such things. I'm so silly, forgive me for this.
You monsters, you see what you've done! đŋ
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nah it's just interesting how insecure everything is... it's not really an issue for regular guys but for big corporations, then yea OMG it is a big deal đ
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Yeah, I get a kick on how in there the guy walked into Parliament and was able to access 8 phones in 15 minutes. Regular every day people may not be to concerned about that but I have noticed that the people who are looking for blue tooth most of the time are people that have sensitive info that can't be let out into the general public.
oh, and as for being able to make phone calls through the BT in someone elses phone, I just see a new generation of short ranged phone cloning starting đ I wonder if you can grab ESNs and other things from the phone that IDs it.
oh, and as for being able to make phone calls through the BT in someone elses phone, I just see a new generation of short ranged phone cloning starting đ I wonder if you can grab ESNs and other things from the phone that IDs it.
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If you can use a BT phone to navigate thru the phonebook of another BT phone it WOULD stand to reason that you could navigate thru other menus and find the ESN. All you'd have to do is be seated within 30ft. of them in say, a restaurant, and look like the innocent person just playin with their new phone.
My question is this. The article you posted (great job by the way) mentioned that the guys who discovered this are further developing the software into a phone app.. Now it's one thing if your everday hacker develops it. But to continue to further develop this so that it can go on a phone instead of a laptop. This is promoting rather than stifling the problem. I'm sure that even with the tightest lockdown, someone in the general pub...
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My question is this. The article you posted (great job by the way) mentioned that the guys who discovered this are further developing the software into a phone app.. Now it's one thing if your everday hacker develops it. But to continue to further develop this so that it can go on a phone instead of a laptop. This is promoting rather than stifling the problem. I'm sure that even with the tightest lockdown, someone in the general pub...
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Well I also picture Goverment sponsored Hackers starting to work in this for black ops stuff to perhaps adventuraly search out and find even hidden phones...Its one of thouse things of, "when will it end."
Anyone Read the report going around a while back that the FBI was found listening to conversations that were happening in Cars installed with OnStar with out the people int he cars ever knowing?
Btw, good jab.
Anyone Read the report going around a while back that the FBI was found listening to conversations that were happening in Cars installed with OnStar with out the people int he cars ever knowing?
Btw, good jab.
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disturbed1 said:
My question is this. The article you posted (great job by the way) mentioned that the guys who discovered this are further developing the software into a phone app.. Now it's one thing if your everday hacker develops it. But to continue to further develop this so that it can go on a phone instead of a laptop. This is promoting rather than stifling the problem. I'm sure that even with the tightest lockdown, someone in the general public can/will get this, then anyone can use someone else's BT phone to make a free call....well free to them anyway.
Okay, I take issue with this, as no matter how hard anyone tries, it is impossible to put the genie BACK into the bottle once it's out. If...
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I say exploit and explore all the possible ways to make a system crash, it just makes the end product more bulletproof. Bluetooth is fairly new and not terribly well understood (as are most WiFi type applications) and the sooner people get it through their heads that wireless = NOT TERRIBLY SECURE and take appropriate measures the better...
No kidding, I tried running a 802.11 network in my apartment so I can use my laptop around my place up until I found my neighbor was using his own to get into mine and stealing my bandwidth as well as had access to my various folders and actually went through them according to the log. Everything is wired for me now.
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Like I said a few days back, I got a buddy who can tap into wireless routers, from across the street of your house, on something that looks no more suspicious than a PDA. and he does things much worse than looking at your files.... đ¤Ŗ
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802.11 has a much greater spread than does BT... BT has a range of 33 feet...wow, scary stuff. Not to mention BT can be turned off when not being used. Ever try hacking a connection that doesn't exist?
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Dyingunman said:
yes đ
ugh.... can you belevie this guy?!
THIS INSN'T SLASHDOT PEOPLE! đŋ
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Dyingunman said:
Like I said a few days back, I got a buddy who can tap into wireless routers, from across the street of your house, on something that looks no more suspicious than a PDA. and he does things much worse than looking at your files.... đ¤Ŗ
thats not saying much, I can use my neighbors wireless router if the WEP is disabled just by looking at my available networks and choosing his....big deal
I'd like to see your friend break my 256bit encryption on my network, Im thinking I'd notice a guy standing within 150 feet of my house for an hour or two with a PDA in his hand đ
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chris_lt1 said:Dyingunman said:
Like I said a few days back, I got a buddy who can tap into wireless routers, from across the street of your house, on something that looks no more suspicious than a PDA. and he does things much worse than looking at your files.... đ¤Ŗ
thats not saying much, I can use my neighbors wireless router if the WEP is disabled just by looking at my available networks and choosing his....big deal
I'd like to see your friend break my 256bit encryption on my network, Im thinking I'd notice a guy standing within 150 feet of my house for an hour or two with a PDA in his hand đ
Yeah, but would you notice an anonymous looking vehicle parked ...
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Aleq said:...chris_lt1 said:Dyingunman said:
Like I said a few days back, I got a buddy who can tap into wireless routers, from across the street of your house, on something that looks no more suspicious than a PDA. and he does things much worse than looking at your files.... đ¤Ŗ
thats not saying much, I can use my neighbors wireless router if the WEP is disabled just by looking at my available networks and choosing his....big deal
I'd like to see your friend break my 256bit encryption on my network, Im thinking I'd notice a guy standing within 150 feet of my house for an hour or two with a PDA in his hand đ
Yeah, but would you notice an an
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Actually I got my network behind a hardware firewall that have been pretty darn reliable. reports any attacks to me and I lock down the ports I don't use. Also keeping up to date on my Norton protection software that constant runs on all computers on my network.
as for my phone, Digital service is much more secure then the analog service ever was and the probably that someone has the decrypting codes or the money for the computer to apply them is almost nill.
The problem I see here with the BT is that it circumvents these precautions and lets an attacker in. If there was extra security that I can run on it, then great! its once again a viable choice. For now it isn't. Though they do report (now that I actually read the article, I will...
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as for my phone, Digital service is much more secure then the analog service ever was and the probably that someone has the decrypting codes or the money for the computer to apply them is almost nill.
The problem I see here with the BT is that it circumvents these precautions and lets an attacker in. If there was extra security that I can run on it, then great! its once again a viable choice. For now it isn't. Though they do report (now that I actually read the article, I will...
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Do you have a wireless router well guess what it's..... um...... actutually what the hell is that?
bottom line
ALL DIGITAL ELECTRONICS ARE HACKABLE(so to speak)!
bottom line
ALL DIGITAL ELECTRONICS ARE HACKABLE(so to speak)!
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yes they are, but the degree of hackiblity differs. and no, my personal mouse is wired, so is my entire network. I don't like setting up wireless networks that I personaly use.
as for the mouse I use at work, it is wireless, but not bluetooth. says on the box 900mhz. Its old đ
as for the mouse I use at work, it is wireless, but not bluetooth. says on the box 900mhz. Its old đ
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