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Letstalk.com through Walmart.com

gbpackersfan1982

Nov 10, 2010, 1:24 PM
I have a line that is eligible for an upgrade and I am pretty much set on getting the Droid X but like all consumers I look for the best price. Through Verizon it is 199.00 after rebated for new and 149.00 for Refurb. I usually check Bestbuy.com to see what they have to offer because they sometimes have better pricing and then I don't need to wait on a rebate but they are the same currently. I went to Walmart.com and put in that it is a 2 yr contract renewal and the Droid X and it has Letstalk.com figuring out the price. It tells me that I will only pay 80.00???? Could that be right??? Sounds to good to be true but I thought I would open it up to everyone to see what their thoughts are. Has anyone used letstalk.com? Could this be real? ...
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Menno

Nov 10, 2010, 3:36 PM
Letstalk requires you maintain the same exact plan for 6 months, period. The plans arn't always the best that they offer. If you do change your plan at all, you get billed the full retail amount for the device.

You also have to deal with their customer service (required for first 30 days)

If a place like that is significantly cheaper than everyone else, they're sacrificing something somewhere.
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gbpackersfan1982

Nov 10, 2010, 3:51 PM
Thats what I was afraid of. I think I will just stick with upgrading with Verizon or Best Buy because I know what I am getting into. Thank you for the advice and the info.
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Cosmic Spiderman

Nov 15, 2010, 5:17 PM
Do you have an HH Gregg in your area?
They have the same phones as Verizon, but the rebate is instant. So, you pay $199.99 at time of purchase.
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gbpackersfan1982

Nov 17, 2010, 11:00 AM
Sad to say I do not. That would be awesome to get the rebate instantly... Oh well I am going to keep saving and hopefully there will be some good specials for the holidays.
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epik

Nov 10, 2010, 4:07 PM
$250. It was hard to find the T&C section, but I came across part of it.

http://www3.letstalk.com/about/terms-and-conditions.htm »
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epik

Nov 10, 2010, 6:12 PM
Very telling when the company says that a fee is "not a penalty but is for liquidated damages." An indication of how their business works.

They have very low overhead, being an online operation, compared to a typical storefront business. They pass those savings to the customer, for sure, but because their margins are so tight, they force you to not make any changes, even if you go over minutes, for six months (unless done through them).
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hrmles1

Nov 10, 2010, 8:14 PM
If you're a long time Verizon customer it might be worth a look. I have had the same plan for the past three years so the requirement of no changes for 6 months would not be an issue for me. Is there anything else that I might be missing??
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epik

Nov 10, 2010, 8:36 PM
Well, you wouldn't want to change ESN, plan, features, add-ons, etc.

For me, I've gone most of a year without changing ESN or features, and probably two to three years since I've changed plans.

Someone like me would do well with them, but even I can't predict the future. For instance, I just changed my wife's Blackbery from unlimited to the 150MB plan. If they hadn't come out with the new plan, I would have never changed it.
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hrmles1

Nov 10, 2010, 8:56 PM
But the restricted period is just 6 months, right?? After that it's the same as any other contract that you'd sign with Verizon?
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epik

Nov 10, 2010, 8:59 PM
Yeah. So as long as you can get through six months, you're good.
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hrmles1

Nov 10, 2010, 9:02 PM
Wow!!! That's a great deal!! Thanks!!
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Jayshmay

Nov 10, 2010, 9:19 PM
Back in march I got my Motorola Droid from Letstalk for only $20, and it was a fine experience. I just made SURE I understood how it works by having a few phone conversations with customer service. It worked out fine for me.
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gbpackersfan1982

Nov 11, 2010, 7:25 AM
Well I almost never make any changes to my plan unless it is upgrading a line when I have one due. I am currently on a family play with 3 lines and share 700 mins with unlimited text. So since I wouldnt be able to make any changes for 6 months would that stop me from upgrading another line in Feb or would they let me if I did it through them?
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epik

Nov 11, 2010, 10:47 AM
The biggest concern is with the line you initially upgrade. If you change the price plan, even if it's just minutes, they have issues with you. Because a family share plan is all tied together, a plan change on one is usually a plan change on all of them (unless you're breaking up the family share into single lines, but even still you'd have to keep the upgraded line the same or pay $250). Even if you're about to go over one month and want to increase your minutes, you have to go through them to make the change, or pay $250. As long as you know this, you can deal with this.

There are some instances where you'd be stuck. Let's assume you're able to move to the "test plan" that we've been talking about on here (where data is cheaper). ...
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gbpackersfan1982

Nov 11, 2010, 11:39 AM
Thank you Epik... You have made my decision a lot easier. I agree it seems like a mixed bag and I dont feel comfortable not knowing 100% what I am getting into. I am on phonescoop everyday and I really enjoy all the information that you and others provide to us. I have another non related question though. I have a family plan in which I am the primary and I have 2 other lines. I currently receive a 7% discount on my bill due to my employer and I just found out that my wife can get a 27% discount because of her employer. I am pretty sure that it cannot be added on top of my current discount but can I remove the discount that I currently have and add the one from my wife's employer? She is one of the lines under my plan. Thank you in a...
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epik

Nov 11, 2010, 12:18 PM
Wow, 27% is rare. I've never seen much more than that. Most employee discounts seem to be 15-20%.

Here's how this will work:

First, you're right about not being able to combine discounts.

Second, to have the employee discount, the employee must be the account owner. That doesn't mean that the other person can't manage the account, it's just that the employee discount applies to the employee.

So what would happen is, you'd first have to ask for an assumption of liability.

http://www.phonecan.com/blog5.php/2010/11/08/what-is ... »

An assumption of liability is basically moving the phone numbers in your account into a new account under your wife's name. Once the phone lines are in the new account under...
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gbpackersfan1982

Nov 11, 2010, 12:46 PM
Sounds great to me... I couldnt beleive the discount either but I had her check online and it was only 22% not 27% but still an awesome savings. Thanks again for the info, we are planning on going in tonight to make the change. I am also just going to wait to upgrade for a little bit to see if the Verizon Iphone comes out.... J/K... Just need to make a decision on a phone and play with them a little bit more.
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epik

Nov 11, 2010, 1:45 PM
If a Verizon iPhone actually materializes in January, as many claim to know, then it will be a good option, too. If not, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with your other choices.

When you go in, be SURE to ask them the consequences to your upgrade before making the change. There shouldn't be any, but not being able to see your account, I have to rely on them to verify you'll be ok.
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mycool

Nov 12, 2010, 11:35 AM
27% is not possible. The most a B2B/Gov't rep can offer a company is 25% (and that's with approval). If I remember correctly, it's normally 21% or 22% as the base Tier 5 discount and it can be negotiated to a maximum of 25%. Of course, things could have changed.

The only exception is Verizon Wireless Employee liable lines are at a 50% discount.
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epik

Nov 12, 2010, 1:18 PM
I know of two large companies where employees get 28%, and one at 27%. I've seen a handful at 25%. It's rare, for sure, but not impossible. In my response to him I indicated that such a rate would be rare (again, because I've seen it), and mentioned that most are between 15% and 20%, knowing that the chance was that they had the rate wrong. And it was. They get 22% off, which is still very good.

I was trying not to take the "that's probably the wrong rate" approach.
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mycool

Nov 12, 2010, 7:42 PM
I'm curious to know which companies these are. When I worked for Verizon Wireless I remember the process and procedures document listing the different business discount tiers (1-5) and their discount range and I remember 25% being the cap. Perhaps those companies signed their agreements before I came on board?
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gbpackersfan1982

Nov 12, 2010, 3:58 PM
I was mistaken on the amount. Thats what I get for believing my wife. It is 22% on the plan, 25% on accessories, and 22% on data packages, and free activation on phones.
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epik

Nov 12, 2010, 6:50 PM
Yeah, I had thought maybe you were, but I didn't say it directly, like mycool did. I figured you'd find out for sure with the discount checking site.

Many people hear about the 25% accessory discount and mistake it for the monthly discount.

Oh, and the free activation on new lines with a 2-year contract might not be there much longer, as most employee discounts are losing that.
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brewerfan

Nov 12, 2010, 3:11 PM
Are Wirefly, Best Buy, and AmazonWireless similar with this issue? Ie. can I add my work discount to my 700 min family plan without getting the $250 hit(s)?

I used to work for an exclusive authorized dealer and our only requirement was that the customer not drop below a certain monthly rate ($39.95 at the time).
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epik

Nov 12, 2010, 3:30 PM
The discount is mostly separate from the plan, unless you had something specific to your employer (Microsoft employees get a different corporate data plan, for instance). For 99% of employee discounts, it's a percentage taken off any voice plan over $34.99 a month. Plans under $35/mo don't get the monthly discount or feature discounts.

The monthly plan stays the same as far as billing is concerned, and a separate line item on your bill subtracts the discount amount. So, technically, you haven't changed the plan by adding an employee discount. You're still paying $39.99 (or whatever), but the billing takes of $2 to $10 (for $40 plans), depending on your discount rate.

I think many agent locations are uneasy talking about employee d...
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Azeron

Nov 10, 2010, 9:23 PM
So if someone were to cancel service withing six months they would incur a $600 charge for canceling? ($350 ETF and this $250 charge)
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Jayshmay

Nov 10, 2010, 9:10 PM
What do you mean there plans aren't always the best? The rate plans are Verizon, I pay the same amount for voice and data as everyone else.
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Menno

Nov 10, 2010, 11:06 PM
meaning they require certain levels of plans (or at least they did) and not every plan availabe

For example, when the Droid FIRST launched, if you wanted it at the price listed, you needed to sign up for 900 minutes, the $20 text plan (not unlimited)

So if you wanted the talk and text 450 plan (called Nationwide select 450) you were SOL
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Jayshmay

Nov 10, 2010, 11:10 PM
Well I have the 700 minute 2-line plan.

Hey, did you read that email I sent you about that difficulty my mother had this morning?
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Menno

Nov 11, 2010, 12:53 AM
yeah, I've seen that issue before. It's happened to me twice:

The first time, I had a really buggy rom.

the second time I called my brother, and then right as I was finishing talking to him, a coworker called so I answered the second call and expected my brother to hang up. The software glitched and kept my call with my brother open in the background and I couldn't figure out how to end it. So I just did a battery pull.
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epik

Nov 11, 2010, 10:12 AM
Awesome! I wonder if you could hear infinity from there.
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VZWLTE

Nov 11, 2010, 11:23 PM
hhgregg gave me a phone coupon and you can get the Droid X for $150 instant rebate in Ohio with it
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gbpackersfan1982

Nov 12, 2010, 9:54 AM
I am in Wisconsin... I am as confused as ever on what phone I want to get. I changed my plans around last night and played with the Droid X and the Facinate and I really like the droid x but the camera didnt seem to take as good of pictures as the samsung. I wonder if it was just the stores display model because I have 2 friends that have the X and I have seen their pictures and video and it is awesome... It seemed to me on the X the shutter made the picture blur... Any thoughts from anyone?
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epik

Nov 12, 2010, 10:55 AM
The most likely answer is that the phone has been picked up, prodded, changed, altered, and rearranged so many times that there's no telling what's happened to the phone's settings. The display phone would probably have to be factory reset before you'd get the best experience with a it. As bad as it sounds, those phones on display in the store get manhandled like a busy prostitute. In our area, we clean and clear them every morning, but that doesn't fix setting changes or apps installed to it. And I'm not even sure if they do that in your state, too.

Alternately, I'd ask to try your friends' phones. I'm sure they've been better kept than the display model.

Also, I'm sure someone in the store has one. Ask a rep if one of them has ...
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