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Sprints Wimax versus T-Mobiles hspa+

EVOlve91

Sep 15, 2010, 11:34 AM
They say that Sprint's 4G network is "up to ten times faster" than 3G. Based on tests, that's misleading. Sprint's "4G" network does work, and it is fast.

T-Mobile says that their HSPA+ network offers "4G speeds". Acually they absolutely do. Despite being an upgrade to existing "3G" technology, in feild test they found that T-Mobile's HSPA+ network was often faster than Sprint's "4G" network. To be honest... Its Much Faster.

That's the problem with the term "4G" that Sprint uses. People dont really know what it means!

The engineers that created this technology decided the standards. The Engineers at ITU (International Telecommunication Union) say that the technology is only "4G" if it meets a list of things. The ITU says "4G" shoul...
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Jayshmay

Sep 15, 2010, 11:52 AM
Probably both WiMax & LTE are capable of 100mbps, --IF-- the cell towers were to be configured properly.

To me, what WiMax has over Tmo's HSPA+ is Sprint/Clear's Wimax is unlimited, so it can Aactually be -USED- to watch videos without having to worry about some measly 5gb or 10gb data cap.
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EVOlve91

Sep 15, 2010, 12:18 PM
Ok lets be realistic... unless your downloading massive amounts of data NOBODY and i mean NOBODY should be using that much.
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Jayshmay

Sep 15, 2010, 12:21 PM
Its called Hulu, news videos, porn, and guess what it all +adds+!
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EVOlve91

Sep 15, 2010, 12:24 PM
Hmm.... Thats funny becuase i have the htc evo from sprint. The only time i can watch hulu or download porn (which i do) is when im on a wi-fi network which doesnt take up data.
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EVOlve91

Sep 15, 2010, 12:25 PM
oh and p.s..... nothing capable of 100mbps.
https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=37 ... » take a look
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Jayshmay

Sep 15, 2010, 12:27 PM
You guys who work in the wireless industry seem to be under some illusion there there is wifi --everywhere--. There nearly is, but not unsecured.
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EVOlve91

Sep 15, 2010, 12:31 PM
ok so unless i have the passcode to every d@amn modem... guess what?? Its useless. Hers more proff thet 5gbs is enough for a average user:


-1 email (no attachments!) â” ’ 10 KB | 500,000 times
§-1 webpage visit to CNN.com (no video!) â” ’ 100 KB | 5,242 times
1 downloaded song from iTunes â” ’ 4 MB | 1,250 times
1 typical 3 minute video on YouTube/Google â” ’ 5 MB | 1,000 times
1 hour of 56k audio stream â” ’ 25 MB | 200 hrs
1 hour of video stream or 2-way video chat â” ’ 52 MB | 97 hrs
1 typical 45-minute TV show from iTunes â” ’ 200 MB | 25 times
1 Full-length (2 hours) movie download â” ’ 1.5 GB | 3 times
1 entire DVD disk image â” ’ 4.5 GB | 1 time

Im sure you use way less then this bro...
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Caucasian

Sep 15, 2010, 2:04 PM
With the EVO hotspot I used 15.6gb of data last month, it may not be 20mbps that FiOS offers, but I get a consistent 4mbps connection down in a town in west texas, no Dallas or a major metro, a regular city of about 175,000. The nice thing about this is I can take my laptop anywhere and . It works well at my house too, so I don't have to pay the 50ish for cable for a similar connection.

Not everyone needs it, but those that do couldn't afford the overage charges that others offer. Similar iPhone plan would have ran me several grand for that much usage.
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EVOlve91

Sep 15, 2010, 2:20 PM
Yea i agree! thats alot bro. but i use my cable internet xboxlive and things like that. you think speeds would be decent enough for that?
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SPCSVZWJeff

Sep 15, 2010, 3:20 PM
802.16E (WIMAX) will burst at about 40mbps
802.16M (WIMAX2) will burst at about 1gbps
both are OFDM technologies which would qualify them as 4G.
HSPA+ will burst at up to 42mbps. While you would ask what the difference is, HSPA+ can be compared in a way to EDGE. HSPA+ is still a CDMA product and as much as I like CDMA, it is at the end of its life as EDGE was the pinnacle of what could be driven by GSM.

Much of the early stages of a technology are not about the initial performance but the future enhancements to the platform. This is why T-Mobile is using HSPA+ as an interim step until they get their own 4G situation squared away.
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Caucasian

Sep 15, 2010, 4:39 PM
Anytime they boast speeds like that, those are not real-world, but lab tested scenarios with a radio and base station ininhibited and everything in as perfect a scenario as possible.

But that's not what concerns me. You could call it 19g and only give me 2mbps down, but as long as it was an unlimited plan that's what matters. I use a lot of data and over time that 2mbps can get me *more* data than a faster connection with a cap an ridiculous overage for cheaper.

So even if the 3g at the competition reaches faster speeds... well, not here in West Texas, and not without a cap. Only one company offers that.
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Jayshmay

Sep 15, 2010, 6:47 PM
I feel the same way. There are so, so many on Phone Scoop who think 5 or 7gigs is a lot for a smartphone. But I don't have home internet, and I don't have cable tv. So I watch a lot of news videos on the FOX News Android app, and listen to daily podcasts on the CNET Audio app. I pay a lot for this smartphone, and I like to get my $ worth out of it.
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EVOlve91

Sep 15, 2010, 4:39 PM
802.16M (WIMAX2) can be considered 4g... but thats not out and wont be for some time... I dont why you would even put that up to be honest. Im going by reviews and factual data done by ITU.

T-Mobile dosnt have a 4g market out yet becuase theres little market for it. No company can truly say they can run a phone at "4g" speeds becuase they cant. Facual Proof.
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Johnny Blaze

Sep 15, 2010, 10:02 PM
Jayshmay said:
Its called Hulu, news videos, PORN, and guess what it all +adds+!


Me??? Porn??? Oh no but.... 🙄 im a good boy you got the wrong guy.... 😁 😳
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bluecoyote

Sep 15, 2010, 8:47 PM
I have yet to get above 3Mbps on Sprint/Clear's WiMax network when I could get a reliable signal at all. Sprint's 3G Network pulls in a pathetic 700Kbps downstream and about the 300Kbps up.

Right now I get 5.1 Mbps downstream average on AT&T's 3G Network, and 1.3 Mbps upstream.

AT&T's only advantage on paper is HSUPA.

T-Mobile's is supposed to be even faster. I haven't verified it, but I'll take Phonescoop's word for it.

That puts Sprint's battery-hogging unreliable 4G Network in 3rd place- at least it's ahead of Verizon's slow-arse 3G network for now.
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crammy1

Sep 16, 2010, 8:40 AM
bluecoyote said:

Right now I get 5.1 Mbps downstream average on AT&T's 3G Network, and 1.3 Mbps upstream.


5.1 MBPS 3G and not HSPA+? u have got to be lying! 😛
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Slammer

Sep 16, 2010, 7:53 AM
I Have The EVO. And I work for T-Mobile.

As a consumer and based on this statement, I would be very confused in dealing with you. Are you supporting Tmo or are you supporting Sprint?

It almost appears that while you are supporting Sprint in carrying around one of their products, TMO is supporting you by signing your paycheck. If you feel so terrible about Sprint, I wouldn't be as overzealous in admitting to having a Sprint product in your possession. Even your profile name represents a passion for one of Sprint's premier products.

Nothing upsets me more than walking into a carrier's retail store and observing reps carrying around devices from their competitors. What signal does this send to us potential customers?

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EVOlve91

Sep 16, 2010, 2:59 PM
Well this is why i have two phones. A blackberry 9700 from t-mobile and the evo.I use the BlackBerry as a work line and the Evo for personal use. I use to work for Best Buy Mobile and i had sprint as a previous carrier. I wont cancel the account because its to much money in cancellation fees. As a Salesman and a consumer I WOULDNT SHOW YOU MY SPRINT PHONE! Thats obvious. Now to answer your question "Do I buy into Tmo or do I buy Sprint?" Thats completely up to you and your prefrences.If you want reliable service at a cheap rate buy t-mobile. if you want to buy into the "4G" gimmick.... be my guess.
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Slammer

Sep 16, 2010, 4:49 PM
Thanks for your candid response. Actually, to be completely honest with you, I really was not looking for an answer. It was more of a statement in observation. I have been a consumer of the wireless industry for over 26 years and have experienced all the major carriers including Voicestream(the prevoius Tmobile). I love the value of Sprint.

I not only have bought into the "WiMAX Gimmick" s you say, I fully support it. And it is NOT a gimmick. It may appear a gimmick, but it is real. Here's why:

If you sit down and study the two comparisons of Tmo and their HSPA+ vs Sprint and their WiMAX, you will find there is no comparison in the end. The OFMD based 4G specs are capable of so much more than HSPA+. Tmo has limited spectrum and will ...
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EVOlve91

Sep 16, 2010, 5:47 PM
Ok im kinda to busy to read your whole rant on what you think. And about your evo. I love my evo as well. YAY!! And the reason why "4G" is a gimmic is becuase its not "4G". Plain and Simple.
Good Day
Mike W.
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