croodJul 1, 2010, 7:55 AM
Isn't everyone with an iPhone4 still within the window where they can return it without penalty? What damage could possibly have been done that warrants a lawsuit?
If you believe it's a bad product, return it and get your money back. If you complain loud enough, you might even get credited for the airtime you did use.
I've only owned one Apple product in my entire life (160GB Ipod Classic), and that was a gift. I have no love for Steve Jobs or his company, but this is a societal issue that has to end.
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No, they can't return it. Cause people who own Iphones are zombies and believe that the Iphone is the only phone in the whole world 🤣
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Let's find out the timing of their purchases. They could have bought these phones with the intent to sue.
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Hmm, how could it possibly be ?proven? that someone purchased the iP4 with intent to sue?
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I don't really think it is Steve replying to this Gentleman. Probably the same procedure as Sprint. When you write to Dan, it goes to a screening team specifically set by Steve and they answer accordingly.
However, Apple in general is not really being very passionate about the overall scope of the landscape. Apple is in serious trouble here.
JB
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They really don't seem to care.
Well, there's always the Droid X on Verizon and the Evo 4G on Sprint, people have other viable options. Unless of course they are Izombies 🤣 !!!
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iZombies is harsh. There are Ford men and Chevy men, iPhone people and Android people. I will admit that people's veneration of Apple is not deserved but it is a great device. Apple is not a good corporate citizen but their brand is hot. It will not always be this way. Hot brands are like tides, they come and go. Some last longer than others. Eventually they succumb to competition, mistakes that they make (like Sony) or the public just gets tired of them. You surf the wave while it lasts while you look for the next wave.
AT&T is doing this, they think the next wave is an Android wave if you see the new devices coming out.
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What did you mean when you said "(like Sony)"?
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Sony is to home electronics in the 90's as Apple is to mobile devices currently.
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Precisely. In the 90's Sony could do no wrong. Even their Directv receiver that had a 100% failure rate was considered acceptable by the public. Other than the fact that it often did not receive a satellite signal it was a great device. Directv had to fix that one since Sony did not own up to it. Much like Apple throws AT&T under the bus whenever there is an iPhone issue. Does history repeat itself?
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Those E-mails are fakes.
I'm going to go ahead and believe Apple on this one, only because they never back down from what Steve say's, and he's said some pretty outlandish stuff.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/01/apple-pr-stev ... »Apple insider is also reporting that the guy, who of course wants to be anonymous, was trying to SELL the fake conversation to them!
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The people who buy Apple products are a curious bunch. I think many will find it hard to return the phone simply because that would mean publicly admitting Apple is at fault and the phone is flawed.
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At first I was thinking the same thing - they can just return it... but then I was thinking, depending on how these people purchased the phone, they might actually have a right to sue. For example:
1) If they didn't pre-order and waited in a stupid line over night, taking a day or two off of work...
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2) If they paid to cancel an old contract with another provider (early termination fee) to switch to come to AT&T for the iPhone.
Don't get me wrong, the suing is a little bit of overkill - but I'd be f'ing pissed if I was in 1 or both of the situations I listed above.
Between the faulty antenna that they tried to hype up as a spectacular "new feature" and not being prepared with the # of phones on launch day ... let alone NO ...
(continues)
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Well, there's always the Droid X on Verizon.
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What kind of response is this? It has nothing to do with my previous post. I'm sure several iPhone 4 users would love to have a Droid X now from Verizon.
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Jay is trolling today. My best advice to you is to ignore his posts in this article comments. I have a feeling it is going to be more of the same. Getting into a back and forth with him will only prove what my granny used to say: "It takes two fools to argue."
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croodJul 1, 2010, 9:51 AM
The thing there is that Apple didn't make anyone do those things.
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True they didn't force them to, but they did falsely promote a product to encourage people switch to AT&T
If they advertised the phone as having a faulty antenna (instead of doing the opposite), as well as limited quantities on the launch date, as well as no white version until a month later - people wouldn't have as much to complain about.
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There are always, always limited quanities of popular items on launh dates, whethers it's the latest PS3, Xbox 360, or Droid Incredible.
Inventory is something business are horrible at.
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1. If you waited in line overnight for a stupid phone, you have no one to blame but yourself. 🙄
2. What is it with you people and that white iphone? IT'S NOT THAT SPECIAL! Get over it. 🙄
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1. I tend to agree, I wouldn't wait in line like that either but I'm sure there are things out there that you would wait in line for...
2. This is a stupid comment, I won't even respond to this.
overall another pointless post
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I think they are only suing Apple because they see potential money in this. I am glad I am wasn't one of the people who just HAD to have the iPhone 4. I am certainly happy with my iPhone 3GS. In some sick way these people deserve what they got! I think this will maybe teach them not to have to have the brand new item. Hasn't history taught anyone that you want to wait for the product to be tested and work out any kinks? 🤤
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"Hasn't history taught anyone that you want to wait for the product to be tested and work out any kinks?"
You make a good point, although isn't that the job of the company who is hyping this phone as the phone that "Changes Everything. Again". If it was the first of its products, I'd say you have a valid point - but this is the 4 generation 🙂
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Greyboy you are absolutely correct! I agree with you, but it's not the 4th generation to correct problems. It's the 4th generation to keep adding features.
I think my point is that to sue is a little over the top. I don't know why people are so lawsuit happy. I believe someone else made a good point that they are still within their return period. Why not just return the phone and wait for the problems to be fixed? I just don't get the lawsuit thing...
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I agree with you on it being a little over the top, and mention that in my original response. Simply returning the phone will solve many peoples problems but I list 2 situations in which I can see the customer having more ground to stand on in terms of suing although I don't completely agree with it. But if I was in one or both of these situations, I'd be pissed too!!
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/discuss.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
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The real issue is that the design and engineering of the new iphone 4. Apple did a shoddy job and the dumbass Steve Jobs refuses to admit it saying that signal issues are a fact of life for every smart phone.
Steve, your iphone 4 is the only smart phone that has antenna running around the outside perimeter of the device. Nobody else does that. My HTC Incredible never drops a signal regardless of how i hold it.
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croodJul 1, 2010, 9:54 AM
Running it around the top half probably wouldn't have been so bad, but running it at the bottom, where a lot of people are going to hold it, was dumb
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except that putting a cellular antenna on the top of a cell phone is illegal.
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Umm...what the heck are you talking about illegal???
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it's against FCC regulations to place an antenna on the top of a device.
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Are you serious?
Is there a legitimate/logical reason for this? Or just really, really bored people in Washington D.C.?
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I've heard this somewhere before as well, I'll have to research it. Every phone I can think of actually has an antennae on the bottom...
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Activists protesting the possibility of cell signals causing brain cancer have caused this legislation to pass. 😕
A lot of companies have tried to come up with solutions, obviously with varied success.
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I can't believe I'm typing this, but I agree with justfine...
Moving the antenna to the bottom portion of a device is an idiot move. At best, it only gets it inches further from your brain - is that really going to make a difference in anything other than negatively impacting reception??
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Then they (Apple / AT&T) charge a 10% restocking fee. That's adding insult to the injury..
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