Motorola CEO: Video Calling Phones Are On the Way
So Where's the National Media Attention?
Sprint, WiMax and HTC create a new interest in VC(Video calling), yet no News. When is the Media going to start recognizing and embracing other milestones besides Apple news. Keep in mind that Apple's VC is indigenous to Wi-Fi only. The Evo works on Wi-fi, 3g and 4G. This is News! Why? Because The Evo brings VC then Apple. Now it changes Motorola's thinking?
Sprint/Clearwire, Bring the first 4G Technology. Then with HTC, comes the first ever phone of its kind to employ and enjoy Video calling at a whole new level as well as other new capable possibilities never before experienced. Yet, No national news on this? Where is CNN, Reuters, Yahoo, USA Today etc? Does this News not effect people's everyday lifestyle?
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Sprint/Clearwire, Bring the first 4G Technology. Then with HTC, comes the first ever phone of its kind to employ and enjoy Video calling at a whole new level as well as other new capable possibilities never before experienced. Yet, No national news on this? Where is CNN, Reuters, Yahoo, USA Today etc? Does this News not effect people's everyday lifestyle?
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Why would there be any national attention? if the phone doesn't have a fruit on the back of it it's not worth paying attention to. I have the HTC Evo and have used the video calling feature over 3g with Fring on a moving train and it worked flawlessly. But apple says they have it and it onl works over wifi and the media goes crazy. I'am by no one an apple hater but I think they get way too much exposure for their device. Android OS is a very powerful and stable OS and it gets overlooked by the media. But I think that's going to change this year as apple has some serious stiff competition from android this year, and there will be some very power devices running the OS this year following the HTC evo.
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Why would there be any national attention? if the phone doesn't have a fruit on the back of it it's not worth paying attention to. I have the HTC Evo and have used the video calling feature over 3g with Fring on a moving train and it worked flawlessly. But apple says they have it and it only works over wifi and the media goes crazy. I'am by no way an apple hater ,but I think they get way too much exposure by the media for their devices. Android OS is a very powerful and stable OS and it gets overlooked by the media. But I think that's going to change this year as apple has some serious stiff competition from android this year, and there will be some very power devices running the OS this year following the HTC evo.
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Did you miss the huge press fawning during Google IO?
Did you miss the fact that Sprint's provider, Qik, had to pull the software because the feature wasn't ready? In fact, Sprint wasn't able to provide a single review unit (at least to me, engadget, or CNet) with the Qik software even working?
The media would've hyped about it if Sprint had actually gotten that feature working. 3rd party software is great, but that's not enough- it needs to be a seamless part of the platform.
That's why Apple got the media attention- FaceTime was a working product.
Did you miss the fact that Sprint's provider, Qik, had to pull the software because the feature wasn't ready? In fact, Sprint wasn't able to provide a single review unit (at least to me, engadget, or CNet) with the Qik software even working?
The media would've hyped about it if Sprint had actually gotten that feature working. 3rd party software is great, but that's not enough- it needs to be a seamless part of the platform.
That's why Apple got the media attention- FaceTime was a working product.
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It's not just facetime though.
Google's IO went for 2 days, and yet I am willing to bet that on any tech block (much less media source) the amount of coverage it received is 1/2 of what apple is STILL receiving.
And sprint had working video chat devices at the new york launch event, and let plenty of people try it out. (not to mention websites like android central, andronica, etc all seemed to get working qik enabled evo's to review.
Google's IO went for 2 days, and yet I am willing to bet that on any tech block (much less media source) the amount of coverage it received is 1/2 of what apple is STILL receiving.
And sprint had working video chat devices at the new york launch event, and let plenty of people try it out. (not to mention websites like android central, andronica, etc all seemed to get working qik enabled evo's to review.
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Did you read that article I sent you about Moto coming out with a smartphone that packs a whopping 2ghz Nvidia chip? I wanted to know what you think.
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It should be interesting. I could defiantly see it being useful (assuming it's not a battery hog. it will be interesting to see what app makers could do with that kind of processor power. I like the TI processors they're using now, though Tegra chipsets look drool worthy.
I know you're not into video games, but one of the first games I remember playing was Sandstorm, it was one of those alien-invader type games, where you had to shoot at missles before they destroyed your town.
it was for windows 3.1. well anyway, when I got my new machine a few years later (windows 95) I figured out how to install it and it was unplayable fast. Seems that game makers back then used the CPU to throttle the speed of the game.. thankfully they don't...
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I know you're not into video games, but one of the first games I remember playing was Sandstorm, it was one of those alien-invader type games, where you had to shoot at missles before they destroyed your town.
it was for windows 3.1. well anyway, when I got my new machine a few years later (windows 95) I figured out how to install it and it was unplayable fast. Seems that game makers back then used the CPU to throttle the speed of the game.. thankfully they don't...
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When I'm finished paying off my credit card I want to get the newst PS3. Not sure what games I'll be into though, I think Star Wars Battlefron, and a baseball game.
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I know what stock Android is, I just never heard it referred to as "vanilla Android".
Speaking of stock Android, as I read about these rumors of the Droid X & Droid 2 there are reports that it's going to have newer version of MotoBlur, aka *not* stock Android. So I'm wondering if the truly stock Droid that you and I have won't be continued in future Motorola Droids.
I thought I read that you predicted Motorola wouldn't put MotoBlur on their "With Google" smartphones.
Speaking of stock Android, as I read about these rumors of the Droid X & Droid 2 there are reports that it's going to have newer version of MotoBlur, aka *not* stock Android. So I'm wondering if the truly stock Droid that you and I have won't be continued in future Motorola Droids.
I thought I read that you predicted Motorola wouldn't put MotoBlur on their "With Google" smartphones.
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I could be wrong. Remember, Motorola also did the retarded idea that was the "backflip."
What I had said is that they wouldn't put Blur on their high end devices, the Droid X seems to have it though. I hope they continue with stock android development though. If not, my next phone won't be a motorola.
What I had said is that they wouldn't put Blur on their high end devices, the Droid X seems to have it though. I hope they continue with stock android development though. If not, my next phone won't be a motorola.
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I'm sure you know the "backflip" is the reason I left ATT.
Here we are day #11 of June and that thing is still the only supposed Android option on "IT&T".
With reguards to future smartphones, I really like the Droids hardware, metal casing, and gorilla glass screen.
Though I would like Samsung Super AMOLED screen tech in my next smartphone. I'd really like to see them license that to other manufacturers.
Here we are day #11 of June and that thing is still the only supposed Android option on "IT&T".
With reguards to future smartphones, I really like the Droids hardware, metal casing, and gorilla glass screen.
Though I would like Samsung Super AMOLED screen tech in my next smartphone. I'd really like to see them license that to other manufacturers.
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Samsung seems to be doing a bad job at keeping up with regular OLEDs! Look no further than the HTC Incredible as an example.
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I disagree that customers don't care. Customers have number envy. make a larger number, people will want it, no matter what.
That being said, I don't think that super fast processors are where we should push towards. 1gig processors are nice and all, but test after test shows the Droid processor (550mhz) keeping toe to toe with with those 1gig processors for most tasks and trouncing them for higher end graphics.
This is because the Droid's processor is better at handling processes with less power. I think that where Droid and and Snapdragon phones are is a good spot. they could be a LITTLE faster, but there is absolutely nothing right now that would require a 2ghz processor, or dual core snapdragons or the like. Though if I had t...
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That being said, I don't think that super fast processors are where we should push towards. 1gig processors are nice and all, but test after test shows the Droid processor (550mhz) keeping toe to toe with with those 1gig processors for most tasks and trouncing them for higher end graphics.
This is because the Droid's processor is better at handling processes with less power. I think that where Droid and and Snapdragon phones are is a good spot. they could be a LITTLE faster, but there is absolutely nothing right now that would require a 2ghz processor, or dual core snapdragons or the like. Though if I had t...
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One time when we were chatting you said you'd like to have an Android based tablet. . .well here you go:
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I don't have hard numbers, but considering the fact really no new tangible products were announced, Google IO saw significant 'face time' with the media. (Hell, remember the Google TV hype?)
Sprint sent no handsets with Qik enabled, and Qik can't get the service working. I've gotten Fring to work (which already was on the iPhone) , but again, the devil is in the details- Apple built it in to the OS- all iPhone 4's will have it. It worked at the press event.
It really comes down to tight integration + smooth launch = game changer. That's why the App store made waves.
Sprint sent no handsets with Qik enabled, and Qik can't get the service working. I've gotten Fring to work (which already was on the iPhone) , but again, the devil is in the details- Apple built it in to the OS- all iPhone 4's will have it. It worked at the press event.
It really comes down to tight integration + smooth launch = game changer. That's why the App store made waves.
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I'm pretty sure Apple's demo of FaceTime didn't exactly go so well either.
Apple's been getting extra media coverage because they're Apple, and they've been doing it right when it comes to what it takes to get that media coverage. Simple as that.
Apple's been getting extra media coverage because they're Apple, and they've been doing it right when it comes to what it takes to get that media coverage. Simple as that.
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How did Sprint and HTC create an interest in video calling? HTC did nothing more than ship a phone with a front facing camera, and a front facing camera does not equal video calling. The software provider Sprint contracted doesn't even have the infrastructure - let alone basic competence - to deliver this feature in a compelling manner.
As for 4G- great, but Sprint's 4G rollout is way behind schedule and it's at the point where they're telling investors they may switch technologies (not good.) Second, the real world performance of Sprint's 4G network is kind of lousy. The only real-world benefit to the HTC Evo's 4G Network access is draining your battery in a few hours.
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As for 4G- great, but Sprint's 4G rollout is way behind schedule and it's at the point where they're telling investors they may switch technologies (not good.) Second, the real world performance of Sprint's 4G network is kind of lousy. The only real-world benefit to the HTC Evo's 4G Network access is draining your battery in a few hours.
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So apple got it in your hands to where you have experienced video calling? over wifi that is?
Get out of here with you BS.
I love apple don't get me wrong. I wish apple would come to sprint and I would hop all over it. but I also know that the EVO is a better phone then any iPhone. The iPhone is a great phone because of the apps and thats the reason why I would get it if it were on sprint over the HTC Evo. Plus I like apple 😉 But be honest the EVO itself, comparing phone to phone, not apps, the EVO is better then iPhones and will be better then iPhone 4 that hasn't even came out yet and you swear its the best thing smoking and you haven't even used or saw it yet with your own eyes in person. smh. Would it kill you to be honest? ...
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Get out of here with you BS.
I love apple don't get me wrong. I wish apple would come to sprint and I would hop all over it. but I also know that the EVO is a better phone then any iPhone. The iPhone is a great phone because of the apps and thats the reason why I would get it if it were on sprint over the HTC Evo. Plus I like apple 😉 But be honest the EVO itself, comparing phone to phone, not apps, the EVO is better then iPhones and will be better then iPhone 4 that hasn't even came out yet and you swear its the best thing smoking and you haven't even used or saw it yet with your own eyes in person. smh. Would it kill you to be honest? ...
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Apple had live working demos at WWDC. So yeah, in my hands, with my own eyes. Sprint's review units didn't even have the Qik software working.
I think the HTC Evo is half baked and less than the sum of its parts. I don't think a single thing on the HTC Evo works as well as on the iPhone 3GS or Palm Pre or even Nexus One (2.2) , let alone the new iPhone 4 , but I'll know when it's in my hands outside of a press event. lot slower.
I think the HTC Evo is half baked and less than the sum of its parts. I don't think a single thing on the HTC Evo works as well as on the iPhone 3GS or Palm Pre or even Nexus One (2.2) , let alone the new iPhone 4 , but I'll know when it's in my hands outside of a press event. lot slower.
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Sprint had live working demos at their launch parties, several review sites had working models shipped to them that used qik's software.
Yes, qik really dropped the ball at launch, but sprint had working demos for people at their big "release party"
Personally, i think they should've paired with skype or Fring to make the software if they didn't want to do it themselves.
Yes, qik really dropped the ball at launch, but sprint had working demos for people at their big "release party"
Personally, i think they should've paired with skype or Fring to make the software if they didn't want to do it themselves.
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Skype is with Verizon and Fring probably wanted to stay multi-platform and free of charge.
Unless I'm missing something I really don't see the point of Qik charging for any services. This is Android, someone else will create the same app, make it free, and get paid from add revenue.
Unless I'm missing something I really don't see the point of Qik charging for any services. This is Android, someone else will create the same app, make it free, and get paid from add revenue.
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Blue,
You know what really angers me about you? It's not that you consistently stick up for Apple and feel they do no wrong. It's not because I find you insulting of other people's choices such as mine. And it's not even because you feel you are always right.
What really upsets me, is that you can't distinguish or recognize even the smallest amount of contributuon that competition has brought to the Wireless industry whether it be HTC,Sprint, WiMAX, Google or any other competitor. Where were you before Apple was even in the phone business? Did you not own a Cell phone?
I mean really Blue. You're a very intelligent person and I would not try to match wits with you on technical prowness. However, you almost always appear precocious ...
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You know what really angers me about you? It's not that you consistently stick up for Apple and feel they do no wrong. It's not because I find you insulting of other people's choices such as mine. And it's not even because you feel you are always right.
What really upsets me, is that you can't distinguish or recognize even the smallest amount of contributuon that competition has brought to the Wireless industry whether it be HTC,Sprint, WiMAX, Google or any other competitor. Where were you before Apple was even in the phone business? Did you not own a Cell phone?
I mean really Blue. You're a very intelligent person and I would not try to match wits with you on technical prowness. However, you almost always appear precocious ...
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The one thing you need to keep in mind is that I don't hate competitors to the iPhone because they're competitors to the iPhone. I hate them because they make crap (HTC), they've gotten lazy (Nokia, RIM), or they hold their customers in contempt (HTC, Nokia).
Before the iPhone, I was in the Blackberry camp. I would still be if they'd never released the godawful Storm and instead focused on a decent web browser, but instead they figured their customers were stupid and released the Storm.
The reasons I liked the Blackberry were the same reasons I hate HTC. You could purchase an HTC Smartphone with an ungodly list of features crammed into a package that was hard pressed to make phone calls, or not require a hard reset just to listen to...
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Before the iPhone, I was in the Blackberry camp. I would still be if they'd never released the godawful Storm and instead focused on a decent web browser, but instead they figured their customers were stupid and released the Storm.
The reasons I liked the Blackberry were the same reasons I hate HTC. You could purchase an HTC Smartphone with an ungodly list of features crammed into a package that was hard pressed to make phone calls, or not require a hard reset just to listen to...
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Blue,
You know what really angers me about you? It's not that you consistently stick up for Apple and feel they do no wrong. It's not because I find you insulting of other people's choices such as mine. And it's not even because you feel you are always right.
What really upsets me, is that you can't distinguish or recognize even the smallest amount of contributuon that competition has brought to the Wireless industry whether it be HTC,Sprint, WiMAX, Google or any other competitor. Where were you before Apple was even in the phone business? Did you not own a Cell phone?
I mean really Blue. You're a very intelligent person and I would not try to match wits with you on technical prowness. However, yo
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Dude, the kind of s**t Bluecoyote be spewing out sometimes, he's gotta be drunk!!!!
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I read your post and thought to myself, I hear about Android non-stop, but maybe I'm crazy.
So I did a little research, and you can (as of 11:03AM) do the same research as me and find the same exact results.
Andriod articles VS Apple iOS articles
articles include ALL Apple related subjects, but I will not include ALL Google related subjects, that should actually bias my "research" toward your view
Phonescoop
Most articles =Android wins
Android articles:
Positive:4
negative:0
total:4
Apple articles:
positive:1
negative:2
total:3
Boy Genius Report
Most articles =Android wins BIG
Android articles;
positive:8
negative:1
total:9
Apple articles;
positive:2
negative:5
total:5
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So I did a little research, and you can (as of 11:03AM) do the same research as me and find the same exact results.
Andriod articles VS Apple iOS articles
articles include ALL Apple related subjects, but I will not include ALL Google related subjects, that should actually bias my "research" toward your view
Phonescoop
Most articles =Android wins
Android articles:
Positive:4
negative:0
total:4
Apple articles:
positive:1
negative:2
total:3
Boy Genius Report
Most articles =Android wins BIG
Android articles;
positive:8
negative:1
total:9
Apple articles;
positive:2
negative:5
total:5
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I guess the fact I'm trying to convey is: On the day Apple launches a product, Front or half page ads in National or Local newspapers appear to draw attention to the product. The Evo is the most advanced phone to grace American soil in the history of wireless in terms of what it does. What Business person would NOT find HDMI output and Video Chat a great offering for networking and presentation? Add the factor of the country's only 4G, this becomes huge for a whole new experience for everyone involved. Because Sprint and HTC offer it, the merit becomes moot?
I worked in Radio and Media. It is supposed to be based on "unbiased" news. Apple farts, and the Media is all over it. Walt Mossberg from WSJ is a huge iphone advocate. He will compa...
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I worked in Radio and Media. It is supposed to be based on "unbiased" news. Apple farts, and the Media is all over it. Walt Mossberg from WSJ is a huge iphone advocate. He will compa...
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I'm still not sure what you are talking about.
Apple releases the iPhone once a year and it makes the news every time as opposed to the non-stop Android coverage.
sensational VS same old same old.
Of course the media will try to capitalize on reporting about something that draws crowds once a year across the nation!
But honestly, on the average day Android wins this battle every time. I mean, since 11AM this morning a LOT MORE Android articles have been published.
It's not even a matter of opinion or debate. Do the counts yourself.
Apple releases the iPhone once a year and it makes the news every time as opposed to the non-stop Android coverage.
sensational VS same old same old.
Of course the media will try to capitalize on reporting about something that draws crowds once a year across the nation!
But honestly, on the average day Android wins this battle every time. I mean, since 11AM this morning a LOT MORE Android articles have been published.
It's not even a matter of opinion or debate. Do the counts yourself.
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My bone of contention has nothing to do with Android at this point.
The fact the Evo is Revolutionary in the step forward it just made, is worthy of Media hype.
First 4G phone. Does this not change the course for future handsets? No other phone is capable of this.
First Smartphone in America to include two cameras for VC. Does this not change the direction of how people will enjoy communication? 4G brings VC calling to a whole different level. Not just for WiFi.
First Smartphone to support HDMI. Does this not change how seemless integration between handset and TV/monitor can be handled? I find this quite useful for business presentations alone.
The Evo brings many other features to the table as a package. Many phones have had ma...
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The fact the Evo is Revolutionary in the step forward it just made, is worthy of Media hype.
First 4G phone. Does this not change the course for future handsets? No other phone is capable of this.
First Smartphone in America to include two cameras for VC. Does this not change the direction of how people will enjoy communication? 4G brings VC calling to a whole different level. Not just for WiFi.
First Smartphone to support HDMI. Does this not change how seemless integration between handset and TV/monitor can be handled? I find this quite useful for business presentations alone.
The Evo brings many other features to the table as a package. Many phones have had ma...
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