HP Buys Palm for $1.2 Billion
that' the stupidest HP moves!
the reason why palm, err their stock price, going to the toilet in the first place is cus palm really sucks!
look at apple, do you see their stock price going to toilet. what a waste of HP money going to toilet!
look at apple, do you see their stock price going to toilet. what a waste of HP money going to toilet!
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biased fanboy much??...Palm is one of the most innovative companies around and webOS is amazing. Granted they let themselves get stagnate for a few years refusing to update the old palm OS, but they are great company that's been around for ~20 yrs now. Why would you want to see them fail. And webOS is proof that there is still plenty of great stuff to come from them.
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I fervently believe in Palm's ingenuity, however in recent years I believe the company has suffered from a lack of infrastructure and overall product design. I believe this merger between the two companies will produce the kind of symbiosis not often seen between technology companies. Palm offers fresh thinking and design towards HP, which has been stagnating in recent years behind other PC giants such as Dell and Acer. HP provides to palm a sophisticated infrastructure for the production of their products. In its history, palm has proved to be a leader in innovation and a real competitor in the mobile market. However, Palm in recent years has suffered from an inability to properly market their products, a void which HP is more than able to ...
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you say this is a bad move because their stock is not what apple's stock is or was? thats really just a none educated statement.
If their stock was where Apple's were then they wouldn't be selling themselves to begin with.
Palm actually had the direction with their new OS ala WEB OS but just not the funds or investors. Now they have the funds and Investments they need to compete in the market of the cellular market.
With all of what apple has in store today and tomorrow and even the far future, and they came to you and said we are unable to operate because we are a thousands shy of holding up but have all the future products, already have a insane fan base and etc, your telling me you wouldn't buy them?
You would sound real stup...
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If their stock was where Apple's were then they wouldn't be selling themselves to begin with.
Palm actually had the direction with their new OS ala WEB OS but just not the funds or investors. Now they have the funds and Investments they need to compete in the market of the cellular market.
With all of what apple has in store today and tomorrow and even the far future, and they came to you and said we are unable to operate because we are a thousands shy of holding up but have all the future products, already have a insane fan base and etc, your telling me you wouldn't buy them?
You would sound real stup...
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fool! that is what i'm saying!
if WebOS is really that good, their stock price woulnt go to toilet!
and if circuit city or compusa is doing so good, they wouldnt be going out of business! fool!
if WebOS is really that good, their stock price woulnt go to toilet!
and if circuit city or compusa is doing so good, they wouldnt be going out of business! fool!
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once again you sound foolish.
Their stocks plummetted because they waited so long before releasing or even coming up with the idea of WEB OS.
Once they got the HOT product they were too far in the hole financially to deliver the product. Now HP has the Funds to push this product.
Their stocks plummetted because they waited so long before releasing or even coming up with the idea of WEB OS.
Once they got the HOT product they were too far in the hole financially to deliver the product. Now HP has the Funds to push this product.
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Agreed...
Additionally, part of Palm's issue was with hardware, WebOS is an excellent operating system but their hardware was lacking...enter HP.
I bet in 1997 when NeXT's bought out Apple Computer Inc. the TS was like "blah what is NeXT doing buying Apple, their in the toliet, blah"
Some people just lack vision.
Additionally, part of Palm's issue was with hardware, WebOS is an excellent operating system but their hardware was lacking...enter HP.
I bet in 1997 when NeXT's bought out Apple Computer Inc. the TS was like "blah what is NeXT doing buying Apple, their in the toliet, blah"
Some people just lack vision.
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Another problem with their timing is that Android became popular around the same time the Pre Plus came out, but yeah, Palm definetly took too long, just like Microsoft took to long to innovate, the only reason Microsoft still has a chance is because they have somewhat of an ecosystem that can be integrated into WP7, Zune, Silverlight, and so on. Personally I'm way, way too advanced and expect too much out of a smartphone to go for WP7.
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I think "most" on Phone Scoop, appearently not you, think WebOS has potential, but didn't move a lot of product due to lackluster hardware.
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netboy said:
the reason why palm, err their stock price, going to the toilet in the first place is cus palm really sucks!
look at apple, do you see their stock price going to toilet. what a waste of HP money going to toilet!
I somewhat agree however but webOS is the best thing that has come out of them. But I think this is a bad business move by HP. They should've just let Palm die. No one efin cares, let it go! Time to focus on Android and making it better. We don't need another platform in an already crowded market. WinMo, Symbian, RIM, iPhoneOS, Android, webOS, Now HTC wants to create their own. It's ridiculous.
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Really?? You would like to see this Vastly superior OS die? Ok, have fun with your RIM OS. hahaha
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Plenty of those OSes do need to die!! However webOS definitely isn't one of them, if you've ever actually used it you'd realize it's arguably the best of the bunch.
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rarodrig26 said:
Plenty of those OSes do need to die!! However webOS definitely isn't one of them, if you've ever actually used it you'd realize it's arguably the best of the bunch.
Hey listen, I give webOS credit. I said b4 that it was the best thing that has come out of Palm. But the truth of the matter is, it just never caught on. My point is that I don't think HP should waste it's time with it. I think it's a bad investment and I dont feel they will be able to compete in an already crowded market.
Now, if it were HTC who bought Palm, I would have had a little more hope, just a little. But HP? I don't think it's gonna work.
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So your saying its the best product, you agree out of all the OS's its up there and also recognize that Palm failed to deliver a very good product which palm has admitted that it didn't have the funds, so HP buying them will have the funds to push this product that you agree is a good product that Palm couldn't afford to push.
I don't get it, you agree that Palm is a company with a hot product but you say no one should invest in them and they should just die??? no making sense = not making cents.
I don't get it, you agree that Palm is a company with a hot product but you say no one should invest in them and they should just die??? no making sense = not making cents.
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Android is a good product, But its fame was bought just like any other heavily marketed product. IMO, WebOS is the best OS platform going. It is very slick and powerful. Given the proper financial backing, This can be a match made in heaven.
But we must not forget the huge list of Patents that HP acquires with this. HP made a very good move.
But we must not forget the huge list of Patents that HP acquires with this. HP made a very good move.
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I'm just glad that Microsoft doesn't rule the mobile world like they do the home pc world. I'm glad the way the mobile world is, with all these OS's, much, much better than the desktop industry, that's for damn sure. Choice brews innovation.
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Because, by most standards, they have a good OS.
Like or dislike the style of phones they have, almost all accounts give the OS good reviews.
Also, think of all the patents that Palm holds. All the intellectual properties.
HP might be doing this more for that than anything.
I like HP for the most part... I like Palm. I hope HP can save them from the abyss.
Like or dislike the style of phones they have, almost all accounts give the OS good reviews.
Also, think of all the patents that Palm holds. All the intellectual properties.
HP might be doing this more for that than anything.
I like HP for the most part... I like Palm. I hope HP can save them from the abyss.
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the OS was held back by 1) Marketing (seriously... Creepy palm lady is creepy) and 2)Lackluster Hardware
They fix those, it could become a viable platform.
They fix those, it could become a viable platform.
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If palm was put out on all major networks last summer, we would have had *MUCH* different results I think:
Palm was mainly held back by an exclusivity agreement with Sprint.
Android didn't take off while it was on T-Mobile. G1, MyTouch 3g were good phones... on a sub-par network.
I like Sprint... but it doesn't have the numbers. Palm going Sprint exclusive was a *MASSIVE* mistake. By the time the exclusion ran out - they ran into the wall called Droid.
Palm would have had a LOT more traction last summer without the now massive beast that is Android.
Has any other phone besides the iPhone done good with an exclusive agreement?
The throngs of faithful have moved to AT&T for Apple. No one else has the power to control that ma...
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Palm was mainly held back by an exclusivity agreement with Sprint.
Android didn't take off while it was on T-Mobile. G1, MyTouch 3g were good phones... on a sub-par network.
I like Sprint... but it doesn't have the numbers. Palm going Sprint exclusive was a *MASSIVE* mistake. By the time the exclusion ran out - they ran into the wall called Droid.
Palm would have had a LOT more traction last summer without the now massive beast that is Android.
Has any other phone besides the iPhone done good with an exclusive agreement?
The throngs of faithful have moved to AT&T for Apple. No one else has the power to control that ma...
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Being on another carrier may or may not of helped Palm. More eyes and ears were still on the iphone. Android is just now surpassing the iphone as far as traffic and it took massive marketing.
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4+ companies pushing it. Google, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, etc.
Most of the 'Traction' was/is "Droid Does". *AFTER* it's T-Mobile exclusivity ended.
What did Palm have? Sprint.
While I like Sprint, it's a matter of oomph. 4 vs 1? Who's going to win?
How far would T-Mobile have taken Android if they were the only carrier? Not real far.
Added to that, the obviously *BETTER* marketing for Android... *Shrug* More eyes and ears - watching more captivating marketing.
Most of the 'Traction' was/is "Droid Does". *AFTER* it's T-Mobile exclusivity ended.
What did Palm have? Sprint.
While I like Sprint, it's a matter of oomph. 4 vs 1? Who's going to win?
How far would T-Mobile have taken Android if they were the only carrier? Not real far.
Added to that, the obviously *BETTER* marketing for Android... *Shrug* More eyes and ears - watching more captivating marketing.
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So what does all of this tell us? Does this presage a move by HP into the phone business(I'm not up on my rumors, some help here would be appreciated). Is it possible to scale up WebOS to run on dare I say it tablets, netbooks, even laptops? This could get interesting; it seems everything HP makes uses Windows (Gawd I'm tired of Windows).
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And the point is, the iPhone is the only thing worth investing in? I have no intention of buying a WebOS phone. I find this good news for various reasons. It gives HP a good phone stable, its good for the consumer to have more options. And finally its good that it remains a US company.
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netboy said:
the reason why palm, err their stock price, going to the toilet in the first place is cus palm really sucks!
look at apple, do you see their stock price going to toilet. what a waste of HP money going to toilet!
HP made this move for one reason: it gives them a business platform to compete with Blackberry.
And WebOS is excellent in that regard.
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