Windows Phone 7 Will Be Locked Down, Apple Style
Quality Control Standards
That's what this is all about. Microsoft is doing this because simply allowing developers to publish shoddy software onto a platform frustrates a large percentage of users. This was commonly the problem with Windows Mobile back in the day (or if I DID have problems it was blamed on 3rd party software... utter BS.)
In other words, it's to keep people from downloading a piece of software that when used as intended may prevent them from receiving text messages, etc.
(Welcome to the world of Android!)
In other words, it's to keep people from downloading a piece of software that when used as intended may prevent them from receiving text messages, etc.
(Welcome to the world of Android!)
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Are you saying there are Android apps that interfere with recieving txt?
As a developer what do you think about the $99/yr charge to submit apps?
As a developer what do you think about the $99/yr charge to submit apps?
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No, he is saying that you can get an android app that will force close on you, or not run properly on your phone (if they didn't program it for cross platform)
Handcent had an error awhile back where it would list a message as available but nothing was there. There is no a setting that fixes that.
Handcent had an error awhile back where it would list a message as available but nothing was there. There is no a setting that fixes that.
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Menno! I've been wondering about you, I asked you for your feeeback about something about cotracts.
Other than protecting the investment of subsidizing a handset, I think theres another reason carriers like customers being under contract, cause they are afraid of the customer leaving to a competitor, and the carrier wants to be able to show a guaranteed amount of customers for a period of time.
What do you think?
Other than protecting the investment of subsidizing a handset, I think theres another reason carriers like customers being under contract, cause they are afraid of the customer leaving to a competitor, and the carrier wants to be able to show a guaranteed amount of customers for a period of time.
What do you think?
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It's what I've been saying. Carriers prefer consistant income to spike income (per use, overage, etc) It's why I laugh when people say carriers make their "bread and butter" by their overage rates
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Here, more proof that MS is going out of their way to say WE SUCK! ! !
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/windows-phone-7-s ... »
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/windows-phone-7-s ... »
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Yeah there are. A few Android task managers actually interfere with vital phone functions, and apparently the Sprint reps I know have had numerous customers complaining about a 'defective' handset because they killed the messaging core of their phone (until restart.)
I've had the same issue with WinMo- I do not miss those days. The money quote for uninstalling a poorly coded application launcher was "Oh just make a few edits to the registry and you'll be fine!"
I think the charges are a good thing- they're maintaining a storefront. WalMart, Apple, and Nordstrom all take a cut of merchandise sales. The fee (which is really not that bad) ensures there's some culpability with a developer. If I want to give away free software, I believe t...
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I've had the same issue with WinMo- I do not miss those days. The money quote for uninstalling a poorly coded application launcher was "Oh just make a few edits to the registry and you'll be fine!"
I think the charges are a good thing- they're maintaining a storefront. WalMart, Apple, and Nordstrom all take a cut of merchandise sales. The fee (which is really not that bad) ensures there's some culpability with a developer. If I want to give away free software, I believe t...
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Well with reguards to faulty apps, isn't there some sort of review system in the app market? Where other people have downloaded the app in the past can rate it?
Or I suppose if I feel weary about a certain app I can always ask yourself or Menno or on one of the many Android fan sites forums. Right now I am seriously considering getting the HTC Supersonic on Sprint, if it ends up being everything it's rumored to be.
Or I suppose if I feel weary about a certain app I can always ask yourself or Menno or on one of the many Android fan sites forums. Right now I am seriously considering getting the HTC Supersonic on Sprint, if it ends up being everything it's rumored to be.
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There are, but the problem is forums aren't always objective, and a lot of review sites don't check for conflicts the same way the App Store does.
In my case I'd purchased (actually PURCHASED) a memory-hogging launcher from Pocketgear (which had user reviews) that was recommended on the forums. It also conflicted with another app manager I had. The result was hell, but more amusing was the snotty "Just edit the registry" type responses from fanboys.
Not to mention Sprint, Microsoft, HTC, UTStarcom, and Audiovox were no help at any time during the ownership of that device.
It's also why I err on the side of locking a platform down in the early years and gradually opening it up. The only 'open' platform I've seen never succumb to is...
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In my case I'd purchased (actually PURCHASED) a memory-hogging launcher from Pocketgear (which had user reviews) that was recommended on the forums. It also conflicted with another app manager I had. The result was hell, but more amusing was the snotty "Just edit the registry" type responses from fanboys.
Not to mention Sprint, Microsoft, HTC, UTStarcom, and Audiovox were no help at any time during the ownership of that device.
It's also why I err on the side of locking a platform down in the early years and gradually opening it up. The only 'open' platform I've seen never succumb to is...
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Stupid ? for you, what exactly is the benefit/purpose of an app mgr application?
Done with a perticular app just close it, and move on to doing something else.
Done with a perticular app just close it, and move on to doing something else.
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In Windows Mobile it had really awful multitasking that created more problems than it solved- apps would stick in the background and hog up the paltry RAM used. The ONLY way to quit an app was to open up the task manager-something that took SEVEN steps and about 20 keypresses if you didn't feel like digging out the stylus. What a pain in the arse.
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Obviously you dont know what the hell you are talking about.... In windows mobile all you have to do is press the "x" in the top right corner to kill an app. And if you want to kill a app running in the background all you have to do is go to the taskbar on the homescreen and click the "x" next to the listed app. It only takes 2 to 3 clicks to do so.
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Actually, WM well maybe 6 and above were pretty decent with multitasking, the interface may have needed an overhaul, and some tweaking or use of cooked roms from our friends at xda-dev may have been in order, but once done, you had a real nice phone.
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Here's an interesting read, about "Androids rapid growth has developers worried" You being a developer thought you'd want to read this.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/11/android-fragm ... »
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/11/android-fragm ... »
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I don't develop for Android because it's a wasted effort. They have to reign in the platform and figure out what they want it to be.
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Android is still a growing OS. Hopefully when Google gets to 3.0 with Android they will start doing anually updates.
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The problem is it has overgrown. Quite honestly unless you own a Nexus One (which isn't a very good phone) you're dealing with premature obsolescence.
And frankly, I'd imagine Apple is going to get iPhone 4.0 right before Google fixes the mess that is Android. It is honestly the sloppiest thing I've seen since, well, WinMo.
And frankly, I'd imagine Apple is going to get iPhone 4.0 right before Google fixes the mess that is Android. It is honestly the sloppiest thing I've seen since, well, WinMo.
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Bluecoyote is just mad that Droids are better than Iphones and likes to try and make himself feel better by bashing Android interfaces and tout 3 year old out dated Iphones. 🤣 🤣
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That's no excuse.
Microsoft could have a marketplace for approved software without blocking out everything else, just as they once did with the Windows Marketplace for PC software and hardware.
This is nothing but a money and power grab.
Microsoft could have a marketplace for approved software without blocking out everything else, just as they once did with the Windows Marketplace for PC software and hardware.
This is nothing but a money and power grab.
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Yeah no offense but the Windows software world is lousy, and do you know what happens when all of a sudden an application causes your PC to run slowly on startup and you can't solve the issue? Microsoft charges you an arm and a leg for support (might as well Call HP and go through the "is your computer turned on sir" routine.)
Phones don't work that way. Microsoft's option is to make developers go a certain route. Tinkerers don't like that, but the other 99% of people do. And they need to be clear that this is the ONLY acceptable way to develop for the platform.
(If they allow sideloading it's like Nordstrom opening a flea market in their parking lot.)
Phones don't work that way. Microsoft's option is to make developers go a certain route. Tinkerers don't like that, but the other 99% of people do. And they need to be clear that this is the ONLY acceptable way to develop for the platform.
(If they allow sideloading it's like Nordstrom opening a flea market in their parking lot.)
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Yeah, really. If their only motivation was quality, they'd still leave a channel open for independent developers to distribute stuff to the "expert users."
I see the other side of the argument too though. I think the really talented WM developers tend to ignore the Marketplace right now because, well, they don't want to pay $100 to submit their really useful thingy that they made for fun. The average Joe's may not want to buy a WM phone if there's not an easy way for them to get that useful thingy, or if it's wholly unsupported and untested (which requires paying somebody to QA it). Let's face it: if the only the users that want to use your platform are the people who want to get dirty under the hood with their (registry editing for ...
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I see the other side of the argument too though. I think the really talented WM developers tend to ignore the Marketplace right now because, well, they don't want to pay $100 to submit their really useful thingy that they made for fun. The average Joe's may not want to buy a WM phone if there's not an easy way for them to get that useful thingy, or if it's wholly unsupported and untested (which requires paying somebody to QA it). Let's face it: if the only the users that want to use your platform are the people who want to get dirty under the hood with their (registry editing for ...
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