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CRAPOLA!!!

PhoneGeek8000

Aug 3, 2005, 10:33 PM
😈 😈 😈 let me say one thing... many people still don't even have a wireless and now the FCC says that it is the CARRIER'S responsibility to make sure that all of they wireless suscribers have to have e911 phone...that is bull crap. Sure it is usefull and life saving, but so is ADT and
Slomin Shield and i haven't heard of a government imposed free security system law...SCREW THE FCC AND ALL IT'S CRAP IT WON"T EVEN LEAVE STERN ALONE!!!!!

by the way i am suprised that the maker of this site wasted his time on this crap...but oh well.
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Rich Brome

Aug 3, 2005, 11:50 PM
😕 We just wanted to cover the issue from all sides. I don't think Eric was biased toward the FCC in the article.

But, just for the sake of arguing the FCC's case...

The whole reason for E-911 is that with regular 911, the operator knows where you are based on the address of that phone line. That means two things in relation to wireless:

1. With regular 911, if you can't speak (due to injuries, sudden illness, etc.) the operator can still send help to your address, and that's exactly what they do when they get a call and only hear background noise. It saves lives. Lives are lost when they can't do this with a cell phone.

2. Some people have gotten used to regular 911 and/or think they know that when you call 911, the operator kno...
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jnoel

Aug 4, 2005, 8:08 AM
Rich -

I am with you. And I am very glad you are covering this topic. Thank you.

Being a Husband and father of 2 young kids, e911 services is critical to me. Many people I know got their first cell phone for safety reasons. I.e breaking down on the highway etc. I will admit, prior to getting married and having kids (I am assuming the first poster is single w/o kids - or just does not care about their safety) I really did not care to much about e911.

There have been countless situations where people calling 911 on their cell phones has saved lives during car accidents, etc. As we unfortunately we are also aware of times when people LOST THEIR LIVES becouse they could not be located in time.

Thanks for pulling out of the "thi...
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matt1981m

Aug 4, 2005, 12:45 PM
I have to say that this is the best article I have seen on phonescoop.com yet. I agree with Rich and jnoel about the obvious reasons behind the mandate. I can understand a customers point of view as well. I work for a Major Multi-Regional Carrier and I know that in some areas, the only signal you can receive is analog. I truthfully believe that on most networks that should be the 5 percent of customers left over. It has been very costly to upgrade networks for e911 but I think it has been worth every penny. I would rather my phone bill go up $2.00-$3.00 a month so I could get assistance when I need it. Im sure anyone with a brain would agree with me on this!!!
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PhoneGeek8000

Aug 5, 2005, 1:50 AM
Granted e911 is useful and critical, but there shouldn't be any government involvement...I gave an explaination (Security Systems) as to why i think this is bogus and hypocritical.
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jnoel

Aug 5, 2005, 7:36 AM
Your Security System Analogy does not hold water.

You have 911 at your house if you have a Phone Line from the Telco. Your comparing apples and oranges.

Would an alarm in my car help me if I was in a car accident?

The reason that you NEED government mandate is becouse without it the mobile carriers would never deploy the technology. The only thing that they care about is "creating shareholder value" - aka MONEY.
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sarahj2u

Sep 27, 2005, 4:05 PM
I work for a wireless carrier and live in Montana. One of our customers brought up an extremely valid point. For those cellular customers who live in sparsely populated states (i.e. Montana), an E-911 capable phone does no good when you're in a place where the only way to place a call for help is on a 3 watt bag phone.

If the feds want to enforce this requirement then they need to come up with subsidies for carriers to extend digital coverage into remote areas with little population.

My company specializes in rural areas... I'm not overestimating at all when I say that a good 25 - 30% of our customers require a bag phone to place or receive calls. Maybe the government will reimburse them the $400 to invest in a 3 watt boost kit when...
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jnoel

Aug 5, 2005, 3:03 PM
Also, why exactly is this hypocritical? I dont see what point you are trying to make.
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JBTEMT2K

Aug 6, 2005, 10:36 AM
lets put it this way... I am an EMT in New Jersey...We had a call one night from a cell phone call who said the person in his car was is cardiac arrest... well the state police told us he was south west of a tower located in town...we spent 45 minutes looking in town and on the NJ Turnpike... If the system was able to tell us exactly where the patient was, then maybe he would have lived...Thats why it is so important
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ConceptVBS

Aug 9, 2005, 4:44 PM
Phonegeek, do you honestly think phone companies would spend the money to upgrade their systems so people's lives could be saved? Do you really believe that that is going to happen in a capitalistic world where competition is cut throat and every dollars counts?

I dont think so. If it were not for the government, this initiative wouldn't even be conceived in the minds of the executives. This venture is not profitable at all, in fact, they lose money for every system they upgrade.

Thank god the FCC took the iniative to at least start this plan, even though it still hasnt been complete.

And thank you Eric for bringing up an issues that is, IMO, one of the most important in this mobile society. I concur with the others: this article...
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eric Lin

Aug 9, 2005, 4:51 PM
conceptvbs and others, we're trying to bring issues to the forefront that are often ignored by other resources. we're glad you appreciate it.

it's so easy to get caught up in the rush for 3g and features that people can we often ignore any problems in the industry, but as our articles have shown, there are plenty. none are insurmountable, but they they cannot be solved until they are dealt with. and if we can help bring these issues to the forefront, the maybe they will be taken care of sooner.
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