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just questions

Rich Brome

Jul 31, 2009, 8:26 PM
At this point, the FCC is just asking a lot of questions.

If you read the actual letters, (we linked to them,) they are questions that really do need to be asked by someone. The FCC is one of the few entities with the power to demand answers, so everyone should be glad that they are doing this.

It's a tricky new area of wireless technology. The FCC just wants to make sure no one is abusing their power. The FCC has very noble (IMO) mandates to encourage competition and new technology. They do this, in part, by preventing monopolistic behavior.

If Google has innovative new technology, and AT&T and/or Apple are abusing their power to keep it from benefiting the public, that's something that should be looked into.

But again, these ar...
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get to the point

Jul 31, 2009, 8:53 PM
Anyone Yet! Yet! there in lies the problem.
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ecycled

Aug 1, 2009, 11:03 AM
I agree with questions. I also have my questions.

The article doesn't lend itself to "oh this is just questions", its like all other news. It will sell more if it invokes a emotional response. That response from the tech community is "wow, the fcc is moving quickly and making alot of headlines lately, that can't be a good thing"

Thanks for the words of "ok everyone settle down, we'll just have to see". Everything is so crazy, we need a voice of reason.
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TechToyJunkie

Aug 1, 2009, 1:32 PM
Everyone should read all three letters and understand that what happens out of this from these three companies will shape what happens down the line for years to come. Verizon, WinMo, RIM, and every software developer/hardware manufacturer and network operator will be heavily effected by what outcome results from these three companies answering the questions.

Many possibilities can result and I'm not about to speculate about those. But understand that this could end up being a much bigger investigation than expected. And the outcome could be from absolutely nothing happening all the way to the FCC getting heavily involved in all of the processes. Regardless of the outcome, all of us as consumers (regardless of which device, OS or ca...
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CellStudent

Aug 1, 2009, 6:08 PM
One step closer to use-agnostic data pricing. YAY! This type of inquiry means the days of "unlimited" data plans are nearing an end, even as a bolt-on to a smartphone.

I hope eveyone else is as happy as I am about this. It's about time something finally happened to end discriminatory data pricing where one type of usage is "unlimited" but another type of use is capped or restricted. This is a great move by the FCC even if it is only an inquiry.
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Jayshmay

Aug 2, 2009, 1:27 AM
What exactly do you mean by "agnostic data pricing"?
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WiWavelength

Aug 2, 2009, 9:34 AM
Jayshmay said:
What exactly do you mean by "agnostic data pricing"?


"Use agnostic data pricing" does not set different tolls for (or restrictions on) different data uses (e.g. handset, tethering, aircard, VoIP, etc.). Instead, users purchase selected quotas (10 MB, 1 GB, 5 GB, whatever) and use that data however they wish (e.g. handset, tethering, aircard, VoIP, etc.). As data is data, there are no separate smartphone or aircard plans, nor any restrictions on VoIP. Those who use large amounts of bandwidth pay more, those who do not pay less. "Use agnostic data pricing" is more fair & sensible than the current data pricing system.

AJ
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Jayshmay

Aug 2, 2009, 9:52 AM
Pay attn ppl! WiWavelength is one of the few on Phone Scoop that actually makes sense!!!

Meet common sense!
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WiWavelength

Aug 2, 2009, 10:23 AM
Just to clarify, I certainly did not invent the idea of "use agnostic data pricing." In fact, both AT&TWS & SPCS (as they were respectively known at the time) used this data pricing model when they launched GPRS & 1xRTT, respectively, circa 2002. However, SPCS' Vision service switched to the current "restricted but unlimited" model shortly thereafter.

AJ
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crammy1

Aug 2, 2009, 5:29 PM
unfortunately the word "unlimited" has more "clout" among customers...
maybe to us here and among bloggers this idea (agnostic data pricing) makes sense..but to regular people its a hassle to worry about usage..i have first hand experience on this when one of the biggest objection among data cards is the 5 GB limit we have on it..
im not against the idea by the way dont get me wrong..i just wanted to mention this... 😡
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crammy1

Aug 2, 2009, 5:32 PM
crammy1 said:
unfortunately the word "unlimited" has more "clout" among customers...
maybe to us here and among bloggers this idea (metered data usage) makes sense..but to regular people its a hassle to worry about usage..i have first hand experience on this when one of the biggest objection among data cards is the 5 GB limit we have on it..
im not against the idea by the way dont get me wrong..i just wanted to mention this... ☹️


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Slammer

Aug 2, 2009, 10:57 AM
Yes Jay, This is absolutely common sense. WiWavelength is a consumer like yourselve and I that desire an all fair offering of market use. The problem is the carriers have become so comfortable in raking in huge dividends off the subscribers that they want to hold onto that control. For consumers to ask for handouts is not good for businesses as they would fail under lost revenues. But for a business to stick it to a mainstream consumer that now relies on them for their everyday needs, leads to speculation on what is monopolistic control. The carriers of the wireless industry have been over this line for a few years now and the consumers are now issuing questions.

Another interest is that Apple has not been a huge player in the use of comp...
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CellStudent

Aug 2, 2009, 8:23 PM
All the Calculus and Engineering classes I'm fighting through have me in the mindset that everybody else should automatically understand the definitions behind the debate...

That- and I wrote that whole post from my BlackBerry and didn't want to pound out a text-wall.

Thanks!
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WiWavelength

Aug 3, 2009, 11:30 AM
CellStudent said:
All the Calculus and Engineering classes I'm fighting through have me in the mindset that everybody else should automatically understand the definitions behind the debate...


Keep working hard. The wireless industry needs more people like you who possess both technical knowledge and philosophical perspective.

AJ
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Jayshmay

Aug 2, 2009, 1:24 AM
I just want to say: Good post!!!
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