Palm Pre to Launch First Week of June

lol, Palm?

If Sprint cant pull this off well, THEY wont survive.

HawkeyeOC said:


No way will all the kinks be worked out on a brand new OS. Even Apple couldn't pull that off at introduction.

You speak as though Apple is superior. Apple had more glitches and faults at launch than most cellphone manufacturer companies. However, consumers overlooked these these downfaults and problems as they did the Razor due to being something different, new and exciting. Obviously the razor is no iphone but the similarities for hype vs deficiencies were definitely visible during the first year.

There is much truth however in what you say about the kinks. I do agree that new technology produced, is prone to problems. I don't think that Palm is going to experience as much issues....
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They were overlooked for one main fact...Apple never made a phone before. Palm has. The margin of error is much smaller for the players involved here...

Phantom1359 said:
They were overlooked for one main fact...Apple never made a phone before. Palm has. The margin of error is much smaller for the players involved here...

This is a good point. But this is also a whole new device from the ground up for Palm. Nothing like they have ever done. All new OS and all new approach. I was never a Palm advocate. But this is a device that is hype nevertheless for the same reason as the Apple product. It has many features that are quite innovative.

All new OS...ok. All new design? maybe for Palm, but the design itself has been done (Audiovox 6600 maybe?). The problem is this in cell phone design: The form factors will eventually run out of options. It's a flaw in the fact that we as a society demand so much from the device yet don't want it to be so bulky or "ugly". That is why companies like LG have the "design the next LG" competition going on...see what the public wants and try to do it. Perfect example: Samsung Trance is a revisions Samsung Glyde...one slides up to a keypad, one slides sideways to a QWERTY.

Phantom1359 said:
All new OS...ok. All new design? maybe for Palm, but the design itself has been done (Audiovox 6600 maybe?). The problem is this in cell phone design: The form factors will eventually run out of options. It's a flaw in the fact that we as a society demand so much from the device yet don't want it to be so bulky or "ugly". That is why companies like LG have the "design the next LG" competition going on...see what the public wants and try to do it. Perfect example: Samsung Trance is a revisions Samsung Glyde...one slides up to a keypad, one slides sideways to a QWERTY.

Again, Points well taken. But given the limited advances that can be done on form factors, Innovation in UI and softwa...
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Only time will tell really. But you still must question their choice of destination...and whether or not that helps or hinders the success.

Phantom1359 said:
Only time will tell really. But you still must question their choice of destination...and whether or not that helps or hinders the success.

The choice I believe was obvious as in Apple's. While most carriers other than ATT turned Apple away, The likely scenerio now is ATT could not take a chance with the Pre given the fact of The Iphone. The same could be said for Verizon with the Storm. While these devices are indeed different, the market targeted for them is the same.

In fairness, Sprint's customer service has made dramatic improvements and their 3G is still a force to reckon with. With WiMAX launching in other markets, The Pre is set to be WiMAX equipped in the near future. I fee...
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Where did you hear that the Pre is going to have WiMax built-in???

Jayshmay said:
Where did you hear that the Pre is going to have WiMax built-in???

I don't know for sure if the 1st Palm Pre will have it Jay. However, they have been very secretive on a hardware addition to the Pre. Palm has in fact been experiementing with WiMAX capabilities and this device is "rumored" to have it. I would like to think the rumor and what I was told is accurate.

We shall see.

Hmm, I wonder if details such as a WiMax enabled Pre would be available from the Pre's FCC filing.

Your up this early, huh Slammer. It's like 6:30am EST time. Do you live on the east coast?

I'm a bored security guard, so of course I'm up, I have 2.5hrs left in my shift.

Jayshmay said:
Hmm, I wonder if details such as a WiMax enabled Pre would be available from the Pre's FCC filing.

Your up this early, huh Slammer. It's like 6:30am EST time. Do you live on the east coast?

I'm a bored security guard, so of course I'm up, I have 2.5hrs left in my shift.

Yes Sir! Rochester NY. I am up at 5am every weekday.

My Wife's Step father was a career security guard for Case Hoyt. 26 years. Never complained and always worked overtime. He loved his job. We lost him 2 years ago. Very intellegent individual. He is saddly missed.

Well my friend, it's back to work. Later Jay.

P.s. Don't really know about the WiMAX findings on FCC. That would be a direction to check.

I've been a security guard for 7.5yrs. And I work however much OT as they'll give me. It's Securitas I work for. So upstate NY, I'm from Ct, but currently live in LV, I do have intentions of moving back to Ct, but it's very, very important to me that I do it right, so it'll be a little while longer. I'm going home at the end of August to turn 30, I'll get to see my nieces & nephews, and trying to make plans to spend time with my teenage crush, so I'm sure that'll be interesting.

What choice did they really have? AT&T already has the Iphone, T-Mobile has the G1 and Verizon has the Storm. An exclusive device should be the phone the carrier pushes the most. No other carrier could realistically offer this to Palm.

With regards to 1st gen tech, no matter how much pre-launch testing the manufacterer does, theres no better testing than that of the masses that make up the consumer market.

The things Apple missed upon entering thd market weren't minor things! They were all major things like MMS, copy/paste, voice dialing.

Google also missed everydy normal functions of an OS, I heard the Android OS can't save pictures from an MMS.

I have no doubt the Pre will be a success, it's more so how ?MUCH? of a success will it be.

Personally, if there's ever going to be a device that truly "kills" the iphone - I think it'll be quite a while before we see it. The iphone is too big time right now to have any single device take it down. But, for me...it's too played out. Whether I like a phone or not is often dependent upon whether "everyone else has it or not". But, if the Pre lives up to its hype...I may have to change my way of thinking! 😎

"Whether I like a phone or not is often dependent upon whether "everyone else has it or not"."

Follow much?

Sorry...that statement wasn't worded very well, was it?! What I meant was "if everyone's got it - I don't want it."

So, no...don't follow much. 😎

The only phone that will ever "kill" the iphone will be (gasp)...the iphone. You won't ever see another device "kill" the iphone per se. The reason the iphone was successful is 2 fold: the first step was the ipod and the marketing of Apple before it ever existed and everyone's attachment to the product "lifestyle". The second step was the change in style and from what was available and making something totally new than what was ever done before. These two combined are what made the iphone the success. By launching devices that are similar...you are only competing against an existing market and therefore not doing anything to "kill" the iphone...only take away. The Pre is nothing new and exciting in the cell phone industry. The form fa...
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I never understand that sort of reasoning. A global device has to add GSM 900 and 1800 radios to work in Europe whether it is a domestic GSM or CDMA device.