AT&T and Verizon Wireless Finalize Asset Swap
Iphone for Verizon?
Does this now mean the Iphone will become avaiable on Verizon? God i hope so! ?
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The Iphone will not be available because it has a contract with At&t, and is exclusive to At&t! Thank GOD! The Storm beats the Iphone anyways.
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Does the storm really beat the Iphone, im gonna get the Storm soon but figured i would see what people thought about the Iphone, hmmm Guess i will still get the storm
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DiceRoss27 said:
Does the storm really beat the Iphone, im gonna get the Storm soon but figured i would see what people thought about the Iphone, hmmm Guess i will still get the storm
There have been a lot of complaints about the Storm. Just try it out and see for yourself. Just because some people don't like it, that doesn't mean it's a bad product. I've never tried, but just try it out and make sure you'll be satisfied with it before committing to it.
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Both the iPhone and Storm are great devices... When it comes to a touch screen device the iPhone has got the Blackberry beat PERIOD! All the clicking in the world will not make it an iPhone killer/beater. When it comes to a multimedia device the iPhone wins again! But if you are actually purchasing the Blackberry for what their product guru's designed the device to be, a smartphone... a PDA/Organizer/Email/Internet device with minimal multimedia use, you just can't beat a Blackberry, whether it's the Storm, Bold, Curve or even the 8900. MAC users and Apple afficiandos may disagree but for the common wireless user, it's a fact. But if your sole decision for purchase is the "cooler touch screen" device... yea, it's the Apple.
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AT&T has a contract with Apple for a specified length of time from what I understand. It's been estimated that the length was betwen 18 months and 5 years although no one really knows for sure. It's not a lifetime agreement so an iphone could land somewhere else eventually.
After that happens, there will be no more phone makers left...lol
After that happens, there will be no more phone makers left...lol
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Both the iPhone and Storm are great devices... When it comes to a touch screen device the iPhone has got the Blackberry beat PERIOD! All the clicking in the world will not make it an iPhone killer/beater. When it comes to a multimedia device the iPhone wins again! But if you are actually purchasing the Blackberry for what their product guru's designed the device to be, a smartphone... a PDA/Organizer/Email/Internet device with minimal multimedia use, you just can't beat a Blackberry, whether it's the Storm, Bold, Curve or even the 8900. MAC users and Apple afficiandos may disagree but for the common wireless user, it's a fact. But if your sole decision for purchase is the "cooler touch screen" dev
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IamTheGodfather said:
clicking makes it FAR more accurate than a i phone, media player the Storm has THE BETTER resolution for movie playback, expandable memory so I am not limited in what I can put on it, and I DONT NEED COPYRIGHTS (plus I can take I Tunes if I was such a sucker as to buy music ).
cooler touch screen obviously goes to the Storm in a BLOWOUT...get your facts straight slacker and go back to getting nickel and dimed by Apple while I get every app you have for free with Blackberry
On the Best Network in the States
So I am a slacker based upon your opinion of which is the better phone and I'm getting nickeled and dimed by Apple... So first I own an iPhone but prefer my Bold (cause pos...
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You guys are pretty pathetic. This iPhone pissing contest has nothing to do with the article. However, a few things need to be addressed. Godfather, I have the Storm, and I can count a whole 9 apps available to me in the app center. Granted, I can find some online, but it's not as easy as the iPod/iPhone app store.
Norcallattrep, the mandatory data plan has pros and cons. Sure, you don't get a choice, but I'm sure you have seen teeny boppers with Blackberry Pearls because they find them "cute." Now, what happens if they go on the internet and ring up a bill of several grand, which happens all the time? You bet the parents will call AT&T for a credit. Majority of people that get PDA/smartphones want the data plans anyways, because...
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Norcallattrep, the mandatory data plan has pros and cons. Sure, you don't get a choice, but I'm sure you have seen teeny boppers with Blackberry Pearls because they find them "cute." Now, what happens if they go on the internet and ring up a bill of several grand, which happens all the time? You bet the parents will call AT&T for a credit. Majority of people that get PDA/smartphones want the data plans anyways, because...
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I must agree... too many teeny boppers buying Pearls and stuff. AT&T does have an Internet Block feature to stray away from those ugly overages, but in blocking WAP/INTERNET you also lose the ability to send a MMS, which is sometimes not even an issue. usually I recommend messing up the Internet Settings.
I give VZW alot of credit for bring to the market alot of TXT-CENTRIC devices... AT&T is still playing catch up... Hopefully with all the new devices hitting floors the teeny boppers will buy those devices...
I give VZW alot of credit for bring to the market alot of TXT-CENTRIC devices... AT&T is still playing catch up... Hopefully with all the new devices hitting floors the teeny boppers will buy those devices...
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Americanstud1987 said:
The Iphone will not be available because it has a contract with At&t, and is exclusive to At&t! Thank GOD! The Storm beats the Iphone anyways.
Look Twit, while I happen to like both phones and both have their issues, I have never seen the iphone marketed as a Storm or any other phone "killer" but I have seen them marketed the other way around.
Besides the Bold's better then both of them.
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cwcanty said:
Theres no proof on an exclusivity deal. Its all heresay.
It's been discussed time & time again, and you refuse to believe that there is no U.S. exclusive to the iphone. Verizon rejected it due to Apple wanting more control over the product & subscription royalties; which is why it went to AT&T. If there wasn't an exclusive to the iphone, then why hasn't Sprint or even USCC picked it up? Answer that one.
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I have seen the discussions about Apple approaching Verizon for the iPhone before AT&T, however, I can't imagine Apple putting all their marketing power into a phone that would only be good in the United states and a few select countries running CDMA2000 when it could make a quad-band GSM version it could market to almost the entire world population (potentially).
In that scenario, Apple would then have to create a second iPhone edition for the rest of the world. It would be similar to Apple deciding it was going to enter the auto market and create an Apple automobile. Not only would it create one, it would create a gasoline version *and* it would create a propane-powered version for a few select world markets (CDMA). Apple could simpl...
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In that scenario, Apple would then have to create a second iPhone edition for the rest of the world. It would be similar to Apple deciding it was going to enter the auto market and create an Apple automobile. Not only would it create one, it would create a gasoline version *and* it would create a propane-powered version for a few select world markets (CDMA). Apple could simpl...
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I have seen the discussions about Apple approaching Verizon for the iPhone before AT&T, however, I can't imagine Apple putting all their marketing power into a phone that would only be good in the United states and a few select countries running CDMA2000 when it could make a quad-band GSM version it could market to almost the entire world population (potentially).
In that scenario, Apple would then have to create a second iPhone edition for the rest of the world. It would be similar to Apple deciding it was going to enter the auto market and create an Apple automobile. Not only would it create one, it would create a gasoline version *and* it would create a propane-powered version for a few select
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192 countries support it! But don't sell it. That is a major difference! Last check, 84% of the worlds population uses a GSM based device.
Another reason why Apple didn't go with VZW is because their data fall back is WAY TOO SLOW (1XRTT) and at least AT&T's network is 100% EDGE and can at least download at 255KBS. Again Apple wanted a network they could market everywhere.
And YES! There is an exclusivity contract between Apple and AT&T and was actually extended prior to the 3G iPhone launch.
Get your facts straight.
Another reason why Apple didn't go with VZW is because their data fall back is WAY TOO SLOW (1XRTT) and at least AT&T's network is 100% EDGE and can at least download at 255KBS. Again Apple wanted a network they could market everywhere.
And YES! There is an exclusivity contract between Apple and AT&T and was actually extended prior to the 3G iPhone launch.
Get your facts straight.
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gsmrulz said:
192 countries support it! But don't sell it. That is a major difference! Last check, 84% of the worlds population uses a GSM based device.
Another reason why Apple didn't go with VZW is because their data fall back is WAY TOO SLOW (1XRTT) and at least AT&T's network is 100% EDGE and can at least download at 255KBS. Again Apple wanted a network they could market everywhere.
And YES! There is an exclusivity contract between Apple and AT&T and was actually extended prior to the 3G iPhone launch.
Get your facts straight.
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your really talking like you think you know something....80% LMAO, try again, when Korea and China are on CDMA networks and USE cdma devices , and they make u...
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RELLY!?
You mean they use "W" CDMA. Not CDMA 2000. Which is what VZW, Sprint, etc... use.
And WCDMA is more of a GSM based service.
VZW rejected Apple? Please!
They couldn't come to terms because VZW wanted too much control over the applications and were unwilling to spend the money to update their 1XRTT networks.
Again that is all public knowledge, take the time to read a little.
You mean they use "W" CDMA. Not CDMA 2000. Which is what VZW, Sprint, etc... use.
And WCDMA is more of a GSM based service.
VZW rejected Apple? Please!
They couldn't come to terms because VZW wanted too much control over the applications and were unwilling to spend the money to update their 1XRTT networks.
Again that is all public knowledge, take the time to read a little.
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umm.. no.
CDMA is used in all those places, also in Mexico and Canada.
CDMA cost more to run and GSM isnt because GSM cant get threw a lot of stuff CDMA can. CDMA can keep a stronger single. GSM is annoying anyway, when you get close to a TV or PC.
CDMA is alot stronger in the US and in a may more places then GSM.
Face it, When the Alltel-Verizon merge is threw AT&T will need to FINALLY put more towers up and try to get all the people they lost to Verizon back... which i doubt will happen.
AT&T needs to look more into there COVERAGE area insted of 3G area.
More people use Verizons EVDO network anyway. And now that Verizon had 3G capable GSM phones for World Travle, bye at&t.
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CDMA is used in all those places, also in Mexico and Canada.
CDMA cost more to run and GSM isnt because GSM cant get threw a lot of stuff CDMA can. CDMA can keep a stronger single. GSM is annoying anyway, when you get close to a TV or PC.
CDMA is alot stronger in the US and in a may more places then GSM.
Face it, When the Alltel-Verizon merge is threw AT&T will need to FINALLY put more towers up and try to get all the people they lost to Verizon back... which i doubt will happen.
AT&T needs to look more into there COVERAGE area insted of 3G area.
More people use Verizons EVDO network anyway. And now that Verizon had 3G capable GSM phones for World Travle, bye at&t.
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yeah right att always will be ahead ofverizon on phones sorry buddy verizon too slow developing phones look what they did to the touch pro they completely turn that phone to a brick slashed half the features onmia,that phone its retarded the storm aka slow toch screen aka clicking 🤣 😛
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What are you talking about- every standard cellphone verizon sells has EXACTLY the same OS so they could bring 100 phones to the market and in the end they are all the same POS. besides the people willing to pay for their service want wifi so they can surf the web at 3MBps at home over their network- good luck finding a wifi verizon phone that isn't a POS or has half the ROM as the same phone from other competitors
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Hmm. Funny how Verizon needed to buy out another company to surpass and become the "largest". And I really doubt AT&T will be going out for a LONG time; rollover minutes + superior phones = win.
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KoldPhusion said:
Hmm. Funny how Verizon needed to buy out another company to surpass and become the "largest". And I really doubt AT&T will be going out for a LONG time; rollover minutes + superior phones = win.
"rollover" for what?? of course you'll save thousands of minutes because in NY u keep gettings tons of drop calls every few min of talking on the phone or sometimes u can't even call with verizon.
Before when it was cingular it had better coverage than what at&t is now. It is happening the same thing with t-mobile....too many customers that the towers can't handle that's why they have so many drop calls and calls problems. When at&t starts investing more in the coverage then it'll beat verizo...
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You say "before" like the company changed or something. It changed in name only. And phonescoop users should know better then anyone that every provider has weak areas that they get slim to no coverage; it'd be unrealistic to believe that, hence why this asset swap is happening to help consumers get better coverage in those areas. I believe NY will be receiving better rural coverage, according to the article. I do, however, agree with the towers getting over-crowded, and most user thinks that one dropped call is the end of the world, and that the companies should build towers that cover at most 5 houses for maybe 10 customers total.
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you don tmake any sene the edge its faster the evdo 1x you high let me get some 🤣
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IamTheGodfather said:
Apple came to Verizon first because they could see for themselves who had the best coverage and the best 3g network...
Verizon had the SMALLEST network at the time.
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discussion doesnt equal fact my friend.
And why should I believe you? Are you an apple exec? An att exec?
For all we know, apple could be in talks with verizon right now. Just because a phone hasn't come out on verizon, doesn't mean that theres a 5 year exclusivity agreement.
Show me a press release from apple or att regarding an agreement and then we can talk.
And why should I believe you? Are you an apple exec? An att exec?
For all we know, apple could be in talks with verizon right now. Just because a phone hasn't come out on verizon, doesn't mean that theres a 5 year exclusivity agreement.
Show me a press release from apple or att regarding an agreement and then we can talk.
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cwcanty said:
discussion doesnt equal fact my friend.
And why should I believe you? Are you an apple exec? An att exec?
For all we know, apple could be in talks with verizon right now. Just because a phone hasn't come out on verizon, doesn't mean that theres a 5 year exclusivity agreement.
Show me a press release from apple or att regarding an agreement and then we can talk.
I seen their "exclusivity " agreement first hand when it came through leaked, and it is hilarious how many clauses there are to this contract. Apple could drop a CDMA version I phone right now if they wanted and all ATT can do is cry, because on there exclusivity agreement it is stated several times this is for a " GSM ve...
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THANK YOU!
Verizon could have an iphone right now, its prolly apple thats dragging their feet.
And people think the app store is for the consumer...WRONG. Its there so apple can make money.
Verizon could have an iphone right now, its prolly apple thats dragging their feet.
And people think the app store is for the consumer...WRONG. Its there so apple can make money.
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cwcanty said:
THANK YOU!
Verizon could have an iphone right now, its prolly apple thats dragging their feet.
And people think the app store is for the consumer...WRONG. Its there so apple can make money.
Of course so they could make money, that is role of business, be it Apple, VZW, AT&T or whomever.
BTW, if Apple wanted to make a CDMA iPhone it could be done rather easy, its just a radio change, the technology is not new, it has been done with other phones and smartphones. I also think wither you like or hate the iPhone it should be open to all carriers that want it after a limited exclusive release is over with.
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I could careless if the iPhone ever came to Verizon. I don't believe an all CDMA version will come to Verizon, but it might be possible a CDMA/LTE version could come out in the future. That's if Apple & Verizon can work out an agreement that works for both of them. Other than that, it's anybody's guess if T-Mobile USA will get the iPhone after the exclusive ends for AT&T. As it stands, the current iPhones are only good for EDGE on T-Mobile USA, since the US 3G version has the 850/1900 bands for AT&T, while T-Mobile USA needs the AWS band on it for 3G. As I mentioned, I only stated T-Mobile USA, and not T-Mobile Germany, who already has the German exclusive to the iPhone, but isn't compatible with T-Mobile USA, due to the uplink being 19...
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Chances are T-mobile will NOT get the iphone. There are already great alternatives out there. The same is with Verizon more than likely that they too will not ever bring in a cdma iphone. While the iphone 1st edition and 3g are both great phones, they are only great because of how much lag there is in American cell phone society. Much of our country can't even understand their bills. It would be almost impossible to expect them to tweak their phones to perfection. The truth is the hype over the iphone is gone. AT&T marketed it to death, and there not anything big enough that the other carriers can improve over. If they were thinking about it they should have jumped in prior to the 3g iphones. Now that AT&T has gotten the speeds a li...
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HEKNOWS said:
well the iphone will be available for hitler aka verizon next december 👀 🤣
It all depends how the contract with at&t is worded. And then again, Apple has a history of getting themselves out of contracts and relationships with a significant number of their partners.
Love or hate the iPhone, if VZW can pick it up with a deal acceptable to them, they will do it.
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HEKNOWS said:
well the iphone will be available for hitler aka verizon next december 👀 🤣
Just how long the AT&T/Apple contract for the iphone is has been an unsolved mystery until you brought December to light...I wonder if you could be sued by them for divulging their secrets 🤣 Been breaking into vaults recently and stealing secret info? 😲
Seriously, hitler being a european guy and all would be a Vodaphone thing
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