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"Seems like they are trying really hard to get back @ #1"

BeachSlapped

Aug 9, 2007, 3:00 PM
Since they couldn't pass ATT by normal customer additions. They are going to "buy their way" to #1.
I think its funny, where are all those vz fanboys who always said that ATT bought their #1 spot?
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Ghosthendrikson

Aug 9, 2007, 3:14 PM
#1 is number one, doesn't really matter how you get there. Cellphones have begun to reach a point of saturation. So now the company's have to look to other sources of new customers. Which means wooing them away from another big competitor, or in this case, start buying up the little guys.

I don't see any problem in it, thats just business.
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jrfdsf

Aug 9, 2007, 3:32 PM
I don't think that was the point. I believe what beach is saying is that the fanboys on the VZW forums constantly argued that AT&T got the #1 spot by "buying" their way rather than through adding new subscribers. Now, here is Verizon doing the same thing.

There isn't a problem with them doing that, the issue here is the fact that they do it too, not just AT&T, and it proves all those jokers over there were wrong for making an issue of it with AT&T.

I actually approve of both. While mergers can be bad, sometimes, they can be good. I think a company like Verizon or AT&T can provide better services for their customers than some regional operator.

Although the Sprint/Nextel merger has been perceived as bad by most, for me, I'm now savi...
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BeachSlapped

Aug 9, 2007, 4:47 PM
jrfdsf said:
I don't think that was the point. I believe what beach is saying is that the fanboys on the VZW forums constantly argued that AT&T got the #1 spot by "buying" their way rather than through adding new subscribers. Now, here is Verizon doing the same thing.




Thank you! You were the one who understood my post... 😉
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jrfdsf

Aug 9, 2007, 8:09 PM
Yeah, y'know, I'll NEVER understand some folks on these forums!

5 years ago, we had SIX national wireless carriers, and just consider what some of them offered; NO unlimited N&W's, NO free M2M, NO data plans, not much of anything to speak of.

These folks here love to reminisce about "the good ol' days". NO THANKS!
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Ghosthendrikson

Aug 9, 2007, 8:21 PM
That was my mistake, and I do apologize. 🙂

You are both right, we do have some sloped forehead fan boy types on both sides of the fence.

And JR is right, increased competition has done WONDERS for the consumer, whether some of them want to admit it or not.
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dave73

Aug 10, 2007, 12:45 PM
jrfdsf said:
Yeah, y'know, I'll NEVER understand some folks on these forums!

5 years ago, we had SIX national wireless carriers, and just consider what some of them offered; NO unlimited N&W's, NO free M2M, NO data plans, not much of anything to speak of.

These folks here love to reminisce about "the good ol' days". NO THANKS!


Let's not forget, no free roaming before 2001 or 2002. I was lucky I signed up around the time Verizon Wireless started offering free roaming in select areas.
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cilvzwagent

Aug 9, 2007, 3:28 PM
Yeah, because ATT was #1 before they BOUGHT Cingular??????? 🙄 🙄 🙄

Dork 🤣
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Cellenator

Aug 9, 2007, 3:42 PM
big difference cingular but 20 mill peeps and they're still buying other small carriers, verizon just bought a couple little ones.
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michael_herc

Aug 9, 2007, 8:16 PM
I think that if AT&T and Verizon keep buying up all these smaller carriers, there'll only be just four cell phone companies in the US. (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile) Maybe even two if AT&T bought T-Mobile and Verizon bought Sprint.

Not that I have much of a problem with that, I mean most European countries have about 4-5 carriers and that's it. That just means more people to be M2M with! But, that also would be a monopoly (almost) and prices would probably increase.
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algorithmplus

Aug 12, 2007, 6:45 AM
I highly doubt DT would sell T-Mobile USA to AT&T, and Verizon probably wouldn't pick up Sprint. Although, at the rate it's going, I could see chapter 11 picking up Sprint eventually.
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ultima

Aug 10, 2007, 8:56 PM
Actually sir VZW had recently passed AT&T in postpay customers (contract, no prepaid).

Furthermore, I'm not here to be a VZW fanboy, but you are comparing VZW purchasing some pissant rural carrier with who knows how few subscribers to Cingular's purchase of ATT Wireless (who was the #3 carrier at the time). That is just absurd. Next will you compare the terror of the schoolyard bully to Al Qaeda?

Stop cupping AT&T's nutsack. The only fanboy here is you. Any reasonable person wouldn't spew ignorant crap like you and understand that maybe, just maybe, VZW bought this carrier for the benefit of their network. Look at either VZW's prepaid svc map or data services map. You will see that VZW does not already have their own coverage where thi...
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jarcher2828

Aug 11, 2007, 1:14 PM
👀 🙄

Wow... Little harsh.

I do agree with you but why so much retaliation?
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SystemShock

Aug 11, 2007, 5:39 PM
jarcher2828 said:
👀 🙄

Wow... Little harsh.

I do agree with you but why so much retaliation?

Maybe 'cuz BeachSlapped is a self-admitted GSM/ATT shill? 😕

In any case, ultima did sum it up pretty well.
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algorithmplus

Aug 12, 2007, 6:49 AM
Well, Cingular actually purcahses AT&T Wireless to get the spectrum, the customers, infrastructure, and employees just came with the deal. AT&T Wireless had run itself into the ground, which would be better, AT&T Wireless just shutting down after failed bankruptcy reorganization, or selling out to a profitable company?

Sprint purchases Nextel for similar reasons. Nextel had complementary spectrum to that of which Sprint had, and Nextel was involved in a spectrum swap in which it would give up a lot of its iDEN spectrum because it was interfering with emergency communications and in exchange it would receive 1900 mHz spectrum, prime PCS airwaves, which Sprint uses for its CDMA2000 network.
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algorithmplus

Aug 12, 2007, 6:40 AM
I highly doubt that AT&T and Verizon are competing on the number of customers with these purchases. These are both businesses, and if the purchase makes business sense, it will happen. If the purchase does not make business sense for all parties involved, the transaction will not take place.
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MidnightDT

Aug 12, 2007, 1:48 PM
you guys just bought 1.5 million customers did you not? these purchases are made more for the network then the 100k customers that they have or whatever but hey if the people want to come over with it why not.
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