US Cellular Launches Push To Talk
Big Deal?
Personally I have never seen the use for this service. I also find the loud talking and little beepy noise to be extremly annoying, especially in a resturant.
I can see the benifits to enterprise customers, but you would think those intrested would have already turned to Nextel. How many US Cellular customers have been hanging around for the PTT service?
everyone knows they are the leader. (nextel and sprint )
anyway, its a waste of time for them.
I think I actually lost brain cells while reading that.
"people who has nextel and sprint will probably not leave them to go to us cellular or to anyone else who wants push to talk.."
I'm not exactly sure what the intended message was, but if you are trying to say that a customer on Sprint using there PTT "solution" could not find a better or faster PTT, you are wrong. (to put it lightly)
If you would have just said Nextel, I would have replied the same. Nextel's PTT is definitely the industry leading product, but... with a good PTT solution, Verizon or Cingular would kill Nextel. If you think a good solution doesn't exist, take a look at Kodiak Networks. You'll be surprised.
MattFoley said:...
Wow...
I think I actually lost brain cells while reading that.
"people who has nextel and sprint will probably not leave them to go to us cellular or to anyone else who wants push to talk.."
I'm not exactly sure what the intended message was, but if you are trying to say that a customer on Sprint using there PTT "solution" could not find a better or faster PTT, you are wrong. (to put it lightly)
If you would have just said Nextel, I would have replied the same. Nextel's PTT is definitely the industry leading product, but... with a good PTT solution, Verizon or Cingular would kill Nextel. If you think a good solution doesn't exist, take a look at Kodiak Networks. You'll be surprised.
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1. nextel is the leader in push to talk and will always be
2. sprint is number 2
3. verizon is number 3.
thats how it goes...
yea right.. people thought that sprint and verizon would do better then nextel becuase its over a cdma network and on 1xrtt thats faster and better then nextel's network. boy they were wrong.. give it up my friend.
by the way qchat will destroy the other competitors too.
kodiak has a delay, while nextel doesnt.
good push to talk product? hahha. no one can get it under 2 seconds or so. (cept qchat but thats nextel's)
sorry, my friend, give up.
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i don't think uscc is going to go after the same users as nextel does. if you read the announcement it sounds as if they will be marketing it towards the consumer end, which nextel doesn't do well in. i have heard nextels ptt and it is amazing. sprints, on the other hand, sucks. clarity is horrible. sorry nextel 18, but it does. i have not heard uscc's, verizons(which they blew their launch of it 2yrs ago by releasing it too early and now giving the re-launch a bad rap,) or alltels. the thing uscc does have going for it here though is there coverage. where uscc is, there coverage is amazing. i don't know if they will have a good niche for ptt or not, or how well it will work for that matter.
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mou= mins of use.
sprint's ptt is starting to get attention becuase of the merger. i know they are 2nd behind nextel and verizon is 3rd. if sprint's ptt sucks now, it wont be bad later on becuase of qchat. (that is if the merger between nxtl and sprint goes through)
all i am saying is that alltel, cingular, us cellular and who ever launches it are wayyy to late.
i just think its a waste of time, but thats just my opinion.
Next point... you had a great though about the MOU's. Unfortunately, your argument was scrambled.
"ahh yes, thats true. they will be focusing on the consumer market, however, you forgot to mention something. you said that nextel doesnt target consumers? well your wrong. did you hear of boost mobile? yes, their arpu is below nextel's core, but 70 percent of the mou's are via direct connect."
Noting...
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Cpga= cost per getting acquisition.
I do not get the big deal out of it sir. It helps the bottom line for Nextel. Therefore, it is a great add onto its core business. I am not sure why you are bickering about it.
Virgin mobile is helping sprint and the same with their other mvnos and wholesale accounts. It lowers cpga while increasing arpu and mou’s a little bit. That’s a big plus in this industry.
I don’t get why you are correcting the way I type. That is how I type with the wireless industry's vernacular. So again, I don’t see what the big deal is...
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What markets do uscc serve?
By the way, according to my channel checks Nextel is doing quite well again for this 2nd quarter. Therefore, if you keep saying Nextel will lose customers, well that may be the case, however, they will gain more then they will lose. Hence, their churn is low and their lifetime revenue per user is the highest in the industry.
Nextel partners does extremely well in the rural markets as well. Therefore, they are leading in arpu, churn, and lifetime revenue per user.
nextel18 said:
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By the way, according to my channel checks Nextel is doing quite well again for this 2nd quarter. Therefore...
I usually just read and don't respond, but I have to point out the obvious flaw. Read the above sentence again and tell me what's wrong with it .(I'll give you a hint - tense.) 🙂
nextel18 said:
lol.. you had to reply with a stupid statment like that? how pathetic.
ahhh... don't be so harsh hoss. Was just in a snippy mood that day. The second quarter was over by the time the post was made. I was just bustin stones... 😛
nextel18 said:
That is how I type with the wireless industry's vernacular.
Actually, that'd be "this is how I use industry vernacular to get my points across". Or at least that's what I think you were trying to convey. Since when did you start looking words up to use in your posts? You should probably read the definitions as well.
CPGA = Cost per gross add (or addition)
I'm not sure what bickering you are referring to. Of course I think Boost Mobile is a good concept, and I think it's a great way for Nextel (as a whole) to go after prepaid consumers. Great idea! If I was Nextel, I would have bought out my partners in Boost Mobile, too!
Virgin doesn't help Sprint's CPGA becuase Virgin is a seperate company. They only use Sprint's network. If anything, Virgin is really a competitor of Sprint.
The typing corrections only come from the lack of the use of any sort of grammar skills. It just makes your comments harder to understand. I don't care how much of the industry's "vernacular" that you use. If you want to talk in buzz words, by all menas do...
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Again, it is either way.
"Virgin doesn't help Sprint's CPGA because Virgin is a seperate company. They only use Sprint's network. If anything, Virgin is really a competitor of Sprint."
The point I was making was that when virgin mobile uses sprint's network it hits their arpu and hits their network as mou's. The point was that sprint has other channels such as prepaid and wholesale to make their cpga low and their arpu, mou's rise. That was my point.
"Talk or type any way that you see fit, buddy."
I will do not you worry. 🙂
lol sorry.
i ment, " i will, dont you worry"
lol sorry. 🙂
I know you can attack tmobile, but sprint is different. again, as I just mentioned, they are doing very good with their mvno and wholesale business.
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my statment made perfect sense, my friend. not sure if you can read since you lost many brain cells, but it made perfect sense.
1. nextel is the leader in push to talk and will always be
2. sprint is number 2
3. verizon is number 3.
thats how it goes...
yea right.. people thought that sprint and verizon would do better then nextel becuase its over a cdma network and on 1xrtt thats faster and better then nextel's network. boy they were wrong.. give it up my friend.
by the way qchat will destroy the other competitors too.
kodiak has a delay, while nextel doesnt.
good push to talk product? hahha. no one can get it under 2 seconds or so. (cept qchat but thats nextel's)
sorry, my friend
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First of all, turbo, go easy on the yellow, Nextel branded kool-aid intake. Second of all, you mention Sprint as number 2, and Verizon is number 3. Let's see... in a 3 person race, there is always a number 2 and number 3. Guess what? I didn't even have to look at stats to tell you that. I guess I still have some of my brain cells after trying to decipher your attempt at composing a thought.
I don't think any person with more brain cells than (for the sake of example, we'll just say...) you would think that anybody would believe that Sprint or Verizon's offer would be better than Nextel's because they were a CDMA carrier. (yes, I know that's a long sentence. Hopefully, you've arrived at the next sentence by now.) That's just...
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in other words im wrong? lol we will see in 3-5 years, who will lead the marketplace with the push to talk solution...
i will say mine will be nextel/sprint by far.
Honestly, I don't think anyone will be discussing PTT in 3 to 5 years.
nextel18 said:
lol attacking me? aww. how cuuute.
in other words im wrong? lol we will see in 3-5 years, who will lead the marketplace with the push to talk solution...
i will say mine will be nextel/sprint by far.
If the merger takes place.
nextel18 said:
this is a terrible decision anyway. people who has nextel and sprint will probably not leave them to go to us cellular or to anyone else who wants push to talk..
everyone knows they are the leader. (nextel and sprint )
anyway, its a waste of time for them.
And how exactly do you know this is a waste of time on US Cellular's part? Are you on the board? Have you tried the service? Do you know how to do anything besides cheer Nextel on blindly?
Give me an E! E!
Give me an X! X!
Give me a T! T!
Give me another E! E!
Give me an L! L!
Give me an 18! 18!
What's that spell??
FANBOY!
Drink the kool-aid, "my friend".
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alejandro said:...
Nextel is incredibly expensive, for almost the same ammount of money you only get 250 cellular minutes. But the fact of the matter is that Nextel doesnt work everywhere especially where a lot of our customers are. We have had business accounts change to nextel and have to deal with incredibly high prices and the worst service because of their corporate office pressure, we have a lot of business accounts who are staying and have been staying hoping that US Cellular will offer it. I have no idea why Nextel is so expensive but whatever is working for them more power to them. I know their exploitation of the black consumer market is going beyond their wildest dreams, especially with their boost brand, a cheap
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they are expensive becuase people are paying for it. people usually dictate what the price would be. if not many people would be getting boost or nextel's core at the prices that are now, then nextel will be forced to lower it, however, that isnt the case.
actually boost is doing quite well. they continue to lead in arpu, and lead in churn. (in the prepaid market) it doesnt matter who they target as long as they will be able to get those customers and to keep those customers. nextel does well at that.
arpu= average rate per user
churn= well you know what that is.
Good point about Nextel doing a great job at keeping those high ARPU customers.
Most of this stems from the fact that there are not a lot of carriers going after their base. Once a large carrier launches a good PTT product and targets Nextel's base, the days of Nextel bragging about their high ARPU and industry leading churn are over.
Thank you sir. Look at their arpu and their lifetime revenue per user. They are both leading the industry by far in those two important metrics.
I think its more if not when, because so far sprint and verizon aren’t doing anything to their subscriber base, as you can tell, because they keep gaining more subscribers and their lifetime revenue, arpu, churn are still at the top. Therefore, I would disagree with you on that front. The other competitors will not do anything to Nextel’s sub-base especially if they will have a successful merger with sprint. As I mentioned before, Qchat will play a huge roll in this merger, and will do quite...
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That is why people should listen to the conference calls becase they talk about these things.
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Again, that is not true. They will not leave iden until about 2010, however, shortly in 2007 they will start to migrate customers to sprint’s CDMA network with Qchat, which is a lot better then any push to talk solution by Kodiak or anyone else for that matter. Their dominace in push to talk market WILL not go away. I am not sure if you follow the industry well but check out qchat and its testing. Also, check out the CTO of Nextel and the testing from the CTIA where they mentioned the test speeds over the REV A network.
That is why people should listen to the conference calls becase they talk about these things.
You need to seriously stop spreading erroneous information about Qchat. It h...
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I believe that large carriers already have launched PTT. It didn't drop the ARPU. I also think that it is funny that in all of these arguments everyone is using PTT. By using this you are showing how strong of a hold nextel has on the Walkie-Talkie section of the cellular industry.
it states: "SpeedTalk is now available with plans starting at $49.95 for 1,000 anytime cellular minutes and unlimited SpeedTalk minutes." on http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050707/cgth028.ht ml?.v=17. for their rate plan...
if you compare that to nextel's 1000 anytime plan its about $55.99. so an extra $5-7 per month, in my opinion, isnt such a big deal.
nextel18 said:
i also wanted to add something...
it states: "SpeedTalk is now available with plans starting at $49.95 for 1,000 anytime cellular minutes and unlimited SpeedTalk minutes." on http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050707/cgth028.ht ml?.v=17. for their rate plan...
if you compare that to nextel's 1000 anytime plan its about $55.99. so an extra $5-7 per month, in my opinion, isnt such a big deal.
Well, you're a self proclaimed international "Playboy"...so perhaps it doesn't hurt your wallet. But tack on the extra 20% (or above) for taxes and it can get expensive.
I guess you aren't too busy with customers if you can post all day. Hey i'm trying to be mean i'm just observing! Just my 2 cents, wanted or not.
I keep on asking and I don’t get the answer. That question is; what markets do you people serve? Do you people serve in the Nextel partner's markets, because if you do, you people won’t be stealing anyone from them? I.e. look at their churn, arpu and lifetime revenue per user. Those metrics all lead the entire industry and even lead their daddy, Nextel.
I am very busy with clients and new subscribers who are inquiring about certain things, and I answer via my blackberry and via my cell phones. I am always in direct communication with my employees as well as from Nextel corp. 🙂 thanks for caring so much, I ap...
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I'm not sure what you mean by "nextel partner's markets" but I would agree that uscc will not put a huge dent into nextels customer base/ increase churn rate. if for no other reason that uscc only operates in the following major mkts: St. Louis(which has either just launched or will be shortly) Chicago, Des Moines IA(not necessarily a major mkt but..) Oklahoma City, Omaha/Council Bluffs.
Nextels churn is definitely industry leader, but uscc is usually right behind them posting around 1.6-1.8 quarterly. so i think it would be fair to say that both companies have been succes...
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Nextel partner's is in the rural markets areas and they are doing extremely well with churn averaging about 1.4%. I wasn’t doing a Nextel vs. USCC I was doing Nextel partners vs. USCC sine they serve in pretty much the same markets. (however, Nextel is doing great anyway)
Nextel and Nextel p has the highest arpu and lifetime revenue per user if you didn’t know that, and that is why no one especially in the push to talk market will dent into Nextel’s (including partners) nice push to talk base, as well as their other consumers.
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that was a stupid example sir about since vzw is the industry leader in DO.
obviously, the future is high-speed data. if people do it then they will shrink that market share. with push to talk, it’s totally different. push to talk solutions will not change so much to effect big companies, however, with DO it can as more and more technologies come out. (i.e. wimax, flarion, REV A, etc..)
Sorry for the delay in replying... store has been very busy. Getting back to what you asked, I have no problem in giving you our markets
We have:
Eastern North Carolina
East Tennessee
Mid-Atlantic
New England
Central/Western IL
Chicago
IN/MI/OH
Iowa
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Missouri
Oklahoma
OR/CA/ID
Washington/N Orgeon
And soon to be more... Keep in mind that US Cellular is a smaller national carrier but constantly growing. We are very confident about our service areas and don't claim to have service in areas we don't. Where US Cellular is offered it is one of the very best services out there. It may not be the very...
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some of those markets, it seems that USC will do quite well; however, in some of those markets, USC won’t do well.
can you give me an estimate of what you’re seeing in your store with regarding the push to talk products?
its called channel checks, and if it was proprietary and confidential information people wouldnt be allowed to do them.
I'm not even going to get into your spelling this time. You may want to use a better argument next time. The problem is that you do make sense sometimes, but you cloud your argument with useless, Nextel-spun facts!
he said.. "
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. BOOST IS A SAID ATTEMPT AT PTT.......SOELY TARGET AT A MARKET THAT DOES NOT REALLY NEED IT. "
when that is a totally false statment to make. that is all. i said if it wasnt a market that no one needs it why are their mous especially direct connect 70 percent as well as regular mous and i also said why is their arpu and churn the highiest in the prepaid markets.. etc..
see you have a problem, which i hope you will seek help for it. if you will jump on people's throats, especially mine over something so little, something is wrong. ☹️ i hope you seek help.
There are some things in life you'll never understand...
Like spell check, for one example...
To your credit, if your goal was to bug me, you have. Congratulations. Now, I'll bring out the bug spray.
If criticising your criticism hurts your feelings, then you should probably ignore me. Because honestly, I just don't seem to care if it hurts your feelings. In fact, I thought you were going to ignore me. I even welcomed the thought.
You'll have to forgive me if I don't drink your Nextel kool-aid and buy into your almost cult-like passion and BS. I have nothing against Nextel, it's divisions, or it's partners. What I do have a problem with is your condescending and arrogant tones in your comments (ergo my comments were ...
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love that response, even though i didnt read a thing.
see ya. last post to ya.
nextel18 said:
this is a terrible decision anyway. people who has nextel and sprint will probably not leave them to go to us cellular or to anyone else who wants push to talk..
everyone knows they are the leader. (nextel and sprint )
anyway, its a waste of time for them.
You must not live anywhere near a USCC market. They might not always have the most advanced phones, but their network is one of the best around (where it is available). I actually haven't heard of anyone using Sprint's Ready-Link in this area, so I'm not really compeeting against it. Plus I have talked to about 30-40 people in my local area that are ready to leave Nextel as soon as USCC released its PTT service. So yeah, we have ...
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in what areas do USCC serve? do they serve in nextel partner's area?
Remember, an earnings call for a company's investors is really to put a positive "spin" on their results so that their stock price and value will hold or rise. That "spin" translates into creative ways (BS) of looking at something the way the company wants you to look at it.
As you said to me that I can type how I want to, well you can listen to those CC's if you want to, however, I urge you to if you want to have a decent conversation with me.
I do think before I speak, AND I think before I type. Just because you are quoting buzz words and information you heard on an earnings call, it doesn't mean you understand what you are talking about. To quote the company you are so enfatically defending, "Done."
Oh yeah, for my own sake... Please tell me where I made up any numbers. Please.
Also, I don't need to listen to a company's earnings call to have a decent conversation with you about anything in wireless. I've been on tons of earnings calls, and I can see them for what they are worth. Maybe with a little time, you'll be able to say the same.
The fact is simple, Nextel18. I don't need to add a lot of industry terms...
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I listen to conference calls and other events that talk about their future, and I listen to their execs because what they say goes.
anyway, I know you don’t understand some of the stuff I am talking about especially since you fabricate a lot as well as other people, but next time you say something please either 1. think before you talk or 2. look it up and get the facts.
sorry, I like to deal with data from sources, unlike maannnnyy people on here.
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anyway.
I don't know who you are, or who you pretend to be. I can't help it if you want to be a coporate cheerleader for Nextel. That's great. In fact, I hope you actually have yellow pom-poms and your own cheer. Congrats. Woopty friggin' doo. But read what I am about to say, and pay attention.
Before you start assuming that I am fabricating anything, check your grammar and spelling, check your terms, and check yourself before you make yourself look like a fool.
I'll be honest with you. If you think that anything I've said is a fabricated fact, please, big boy, step up to the plate. Show me what FACT (not opnion) is fabricated, and we'll talk.
You have proven over and over again that you cloud your facts with your emo...
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Good to see you sticking up for your company! I don't even work for USCell, and I was getting fired up! :-) I hope you sell the heck out of SpeedTalk!
fyi, i always talk about facts, but just people attack me and my spelling, which i dont really care about especially on line, but you do. lol hahahah
rofl
U.S. Cellular's strategy doesn't seem to be world domination...they're just seeking to please their customers...it's called retention. That applies to individual consumers and businesses alike. Folks can gripe all they want about who is better, but again I don't think USCC is out to dominate the PTT market; I think they wanted to have the service available to their customers who want it...and now it is.
Sounds like a mission accomplished to me!
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