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Really Bad Move by Sprint ( again)

IamTheGodfather

Nov 1, 2008, 11:07 AM
Someone must have hit their head on a rock over at sprint since they are leading the industry in churn, losing millions of customers every quarter...now make it even easier for customers to leave.

Verizon and ATT are laughing themselves all the way to the bank on this one.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Nov 1, 2008, 2:15 PM
The losses are to iDen customers, not CDMA customers.
AT&T and Verizon (especially Verizon) would be stupid to not take Sprint seriously as you who sell other carriers seem to do. Their plans are unbeatable when you consider 7PM nights and the everything data plans.
If things were as bad as you say then customers would pay the ETF and go.
Verizon and AT&T are not a good value for the customer's money. When the law takes effect that all carriers open their networks to all other like technology carriers then why would someone spend so much money on Verizon when they could have identical service with Sprint at a much greater value.
Some say that Verizon already allows Sprint customers to use their network but only on selected towers.
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vzwinagent

Nov 2, 2008, 11:58 AM
Identical service??? You get what you pay for. The coverage is night and day difference. Sprint is horrid.
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Sndmn23

Nov 3, 2008, 11:41 AM
Yep, identical.

Perhaps in your area, Verizon service is superior, but in my experience over the past eight years that hasn't been the case. Granted, I've always lived in or near fairly major cities, but that's most people, isn't it? I occasionally travel for business, and have never had any issues, except for one hotel room in Fort Worth, Texas.

For what I have now, I would pay more than $800 more to have the exact same thing with Verizon over the course of a 2 year agreement.
In my case, that would be throwing money away.
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vzwinagent

Nov 3, 2008, 2:30 PM
I think about half the population lives in cities. The other half are in rural area. Sprint I'm sure is good in the cities, but what about the other half of the population. Or what about the people that lives in the city but travels to rural areas to visit family or for work? Just take a look at the diference in EVDO on the networks. Sprint covers the large cities and not a mile outside. Verizon has almost their whole network EVDO now. There are several states that are 100% covered with EVDO on Verizons network.
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Sndmn23

Nov 3, 2008, 4:05 PM
All I can tell ya is that I like about 30 mins outside of Philadelphia and my coverage is superb. I used to live an hour from Orlando and I had no problems either. That was before RevA though so I can't speak to that. I also get excellent service in the suburbs of Baltimore and a bit north of NYC.

Obviously you should get what works for you best, but to say the coverage is "horrid" as a whole is just wrong. Sorry.
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BigShowJB

Nov 4, 2008, 10:20 AM
what maps are you looking at???
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daemo3O

Nov 3, 2008, 9:11 PM
ROFL. VZwinagent, are you kidding? Don't know what planet you're crawling on.. but here on earth Sprint's service is anything but horrid. Due to the roaming agreements between VZ and Sprint, the coverage is nearly identical in most high population areas, as well as rural.
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vzwinagent

Nov 3, 2008, 9:30 PM
That is a very false statement. In an area where Verizon and Sprint both offer service, Sprint does not roam on Verizon. It doesn't matter how bad the Sprint service is, they will not use Verizon if it's one of their markets. A Sprint customer would only roam on Verizon in an area where Verizon sells service and Sprint does not.
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Slammer

Nov 3, 2008, 10:04 PM
The point being made is for example:

Where I live I have my choice of 5 carriers. I chose Sprint. Most of the time I am always in Sprint's home area. If I happen to go out of their calling area, I roam on Verizon's or Alltel's and never pay a roaming fee. So I have service no matter where I go and pay less.
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vzwinagent

Nov 3, 2008, 10:09 PM
That I can understand. If you go outside of Sprint's coverage, then you will roam on another network. My experience is that Verizons coverage, in my area, is by far more superior to Sprints. I've even heard people say that Verizons service overall works better then Sprint, even when Sprint does work.
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Slammer

Nov 3, 2008, 10:27 PM
It depends on the demographics of tower location, traffic congestion, Etc. I actually have both carriers. Sprint by default for me and the company I work for issues Verizon. I have found both very competitive and the experience is great. I give it to Verizon for overall home coverage but for practical use and data access, Sprint's broadband believe it or not is more consistant and noticably faster thanks to Sprints higher frequency. I have noticed that Verizon even where there is supposed to be 3G, it is spotty and sometimes non existent. But overall both companies are closer than most would think and each has their advantages. I like the savings I get with Sprint. I have 5 lines for the same price as 2-3 on other carriers. Our nights also s...
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SarahBuford

Nov 5, 2008, 8:51 PM
"I've even heard people say" I love that. What a great point to an educated argument. 🙄 I hear people say things all the time, and then I look up the answer if I want to argue it.
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Sndmn23

Nov 4, 2008, 10:40 PM
Sorry, man. That is just not accurate. Here in Philly, where both are offered, I have roamed on VZW.

How do I know this? One time while roaming, I tried to call customer service and got Verizon!
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dogunwo

Nov 5, 2008, 7:19 PM
This statement is so false, you sound pretty stupid making it. It is to the advantage of Verizon and Sprint to have roaming agreements where both carriers are present, that way you can have excellent coverage in areas where both carriers exist. Its in those areas (both ways) where one carrier may not exist where they companies charge each other exorbitant fees to roam on each others networks.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Nov 3, 2008, 9:36 PM
Then Verizon's coverage is also horrid or they don't honor their roaming agreements. So either they suck as a wireless providor or they have no integrity (which is the case) when it comes to allowing Sprint customers to use their network. Where I am the coverage is about on par between the two with an edge to Verizon in the real rural areas.
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vzwinagent

Nov 3, 2008, 9:51 PM
It's not Verizon's fault. Sprint would be stupid to pay Verizon to roam on their network in an area where they (Sprint) also offer service. If they did do that, that would just show you how bad Sprints own network is.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Nov 4, 2008, 6:50 PM
So a network that drops fewer calls, has fewer delayed messages, faster data speeds and more Rev A coverage is a bad network?
I have sold Verizon and Sprint, I have had Verizon and Sprint. Let me tell you Sprint has superior sound and more reliable coverage on their footprint.
Verizon handset quality is so bad it is scandalous. They also (like AT&T) charge way too much for what you get.
You Verizon people are so sold on your network that you pay no attention to the crappy phones. You also have to spend more money on advertising than anyone else in order to keep growing. I'm sorry but when the law passes that all of a carrier's network must be made available and the coverage is a non issue people won't pay exorbitant prices for a phone th...
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Slammer

Nov 4, 2008, 7:11 PM
I am curious. What is this law you are talking about and when does it go into effect?
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Slammer

Nov 1, 2008, 4:09 PM
IamTheGodfather said:
Verizon and ATT are laughing themselves all the way to the bank on this one.


This is a conjectured statement that in no way can be validated as having merit. This is a pure assumption by lack of proper education which should not constitute the will of intent in posting false information unless hereon, can be proven without doubt that said companies are actually seen "Laughing themselves all the way to the Bank on this one".
I however without doubt, can prove that said victim of above post(Sprint) has conjured savings and transfered funds into trust for me and allows myself to indeed laugh all the way to the bank.
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JeffdaBeat

Nov 1, 2008, 5:37 PM
Every other company has prorated ETF...
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arod262

Nov 2, 2008, 2:30 PM
not true tmobile doesnt and i happen to sale sprint service the prorated ETF....HELPS in the pitch...It works. All they need to do now is work on the deposite rates....then bingo.
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I AM GOD

Nov 2, 2008, 3:01 PM
T-Mobile does a similar proration to sprint.
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