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ITU Changes Tune, LTE and WiMax Can Be Called '4G'

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Dec 18, 2010, 9:27 AM   by Eric M. Zeman   @zeman_e
updated Dec 19, 2010, 10:53 PM

During its December 6 meeting, the International Telecommunication Union made steps in finalizing the LTE-Advanced and WirelessMAN-Advanced specs, and noted that they have reached the official designation of IMT-Advanced. IMT-Advanced is what the ITU considers to be real 4G. However, the ITU changed its stance regarding LTE and WiMax. It said, "It is recognized that [4G], while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed." In short, wireless network operators can market their LTE and WiMax networks as 4G, and not run afoul of the ITU's standards.

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Dec 18, 2010, 2:28 PM



Gimme a freaking break, ITU! You just responded to a spurious complaint with an ambiguous resolution!

Where are all the scientists over there overseeing the kooks writing the press releases? Since when did the "4G" label earn a qualitative definition?

If you're going to offer up the "4G" label to "pre-4G" networks, put some sort of concrete, verifiable, pass/fail metrics on the classification so we can separate the sheep from the goats in this marketplace!

This press release is completely useless and does not provide any clarity to the situation, as far as I'm concerned.
So most carriers have basically ignored ITU standards and in the name of marketing called their networks 4G.

My question is do you think the ITU has credibility at this point since they haven't gone far enough defining it?
Poor guy, It does provide some clarity Wimax and lte can be called 4g and IMT-Advanced is the target for these carriers 4g to hit. Try to relax Mr.science guy and try not to get your panties in a bunch. Besides u don't use that much data anyway.

Dec 18, 2010, 7:38 PM


Then if the ITU has any sense to it at all, then why not define 5G now? Then there is no confusion when that comes down the line.


Just accept that 1G,2G,3G,4G,5G...etc... simply means it's a new "Generation" or brand new technology!

So, HSPA/HSDPA/HSDPA+ same Technology~

1X/EVDO/LTE 3 different technologies and generations.
Yes they really should get the ball rolling on 5g. But they are still working on 4g. Your proposal makes sense lets see if they agree.

Dec 18, 2010, 4:19 PM

Good job ITU its about time

This is what I have been saying all along and further backs Sprint's claim of the first 4g network. Wimax and Lte are both 4g because they are based on 4th generation technology not 3g and are much more advance tech.

Sprint was not the first carrier to call Wimax 4g and was used as a worldwide term across the board to refer to Wimax as 4g. Same goes for Lte. Tmobile is the first and only carrier to refer to hspa+ as 4g and is not the first carrier to launch a hspa+ network they don't even have the fastest hspa+ even att has stated hspa+ is not 4g.

The ITU came up with a clear definition of 4g after Sprint and several other companies already were using the term and applied technology's to associate it with such as Wimax . Its like me c...
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Dec 18, 2010, 9:53 AM

Annnd what of T-Mobile's claim

They have gotten quiet about it. Did Vz & Sprint file a complaint on them or sumthing?
I not only believe they did, I expected that they would.

Sprint and VZW are spending a ton of cash to plan for the future of what really defines the next stages of communication. ATT and T-mobile(Specifically) have leveraged speed as the only requ...
I'd rather they do the whole 'fastest 3g network' argument with AT&T.
The ITU can't make any of these companies conform to their standards, plus the American people don't care at all..Speed is all that is important to consumers and fewer dropped calls plus what are the coolest phones..If a customer asks me about 4g and ...

Dec 18, 2010, 1:36 PM

Shouldn't the title read "LTE, WiMax AND HSPA+"

I mean, according to the article;

"It is recognized that [4G], while undefined, may also be applied to the forerunners of these technologies, LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed."

I don't know how you would describe HSPA+ as anything but an "evolved 3G technology."
Well, the ITU specifically calls out LTE and WiMax as being "OK" for the 4G label. My guess it it left room for Long Term HSPA Evolution to qualify as 4G.

Does HSPA+ count? I think it depends. Right now, AT&T offers HSPA+ at 7.2Mbps. Would you cons...
that because HSPA+ is not MIMO technology


Dec 18, 2010, 11:12 AM

I actually filed a complaint....

November 7th with the ITU in regards to new generation technology. My point along was that in order to reach the goals and every aspect of "true" 4G, NEW networks need to be built out. Third Generation technologies will not obtain the throughput to accomplish what will define the new breed of communications for the future. Verizon and Sprint/Clearwirwe have been spending billions to accomplish these goals. Tmo and ATT have only been applying bandaids for speed alone. Speeds should and do not encompass the full goals of true 4G.

John B.
Typo correction * Should Not and do not*
And yet, the general public could care less. All that really matters to the end user is speed. I mean no offense by this, but I'm just saying that arguing over the definition of a term that the ITU can't even settle on is, by and large, a waste of t...
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