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Apple Countersues Nokia

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Dec 11, 2009, 10:17 AM   by Eric M. Zeman
updated Dec 11, 2009, 11:54 AM

Today Apple filed a countersuit against Nokia, claiming that it is infringing on 13 Apple patents. Nokia sued Apple in October over wireless patents. At that time, Nokia alleged that Apple was infringing on 10 of its patents concerning the vital workings of GSM-based cell phones. Apple's countersuit addresses a number of Nokia's claims, refuting many of them. Apple's own complaints point out that Nokia has publicly admitted that it will copy good ideas. "Other companies must compete with us by inventing their own technologies, not just by stealing ours," said Bruce Sewell, Apple's General Counsel and senior vice president. In the lawsuit, Apple says that Nokia's original suit against Apple is in response to its own declining market share, and represents Nokia's attempt to regain lost revenues. Apple claims that Nokia is asking unfair licensing rates for its valid patents. 

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Disrespect

Dec 11, 2009, 10:24 AM

I wonder...

I wonder what patents are they talking about.
If I recall, its wireless data, speech coding, security and encryption patents.

Even though the iPhone uses the same security and encryption for its base OS as Mac's do.

They included almost every other handset maker in the lawsuit, but Apple wa...
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bluecoyote

Dec 11, 2009, 12:46 PM

Ouch Nokia! And your phones are crap, too!

"[i]f there is something good in the world, we copy with pride." True to this quote, Nokia has demonstrated its willingness to copy Apple's iPhone ideas as well as Apple's basic computing technologies, all while demanding Apple pay for access to Nokia's purported standards essential patent."

So in other words, Nokia said "hey, that iPhone looks awesome, can we have some? We have some crappy unenforceable patents that are standard to the industry we can give you"
Nokia's are still the most popular phones worldwide, especially in markets like Europe. In the states we don't really see Nokia's "premium" phones that often.
"Good artists copy, great artists steal, and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." - Steve Jobs.

Your point being?
stephen5688

Dec 11, 2009, 5:33 PM

Apple claims that Nokia is asking unfair licensing rates for its valid patents.

If I own something, it is up to my to put a price on it and if you not like that price then you just don't buy them. Right? 🙄
crood

Dec 11, 2009, 12:00 PM

Hey Bruce...

Ever heard of Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center)? You might want to learn about it before making quotes like this:

"Other companies must compete with us by inventing their own technologies, not just by stealing ours," said Bruce Sewell, Apple's General Counsel and senior vice president.
Try Google next time

http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&s ... »

It's like saying the iPhone ripped off Pocket PC because they both use a touch s...
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