Motorola V710
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Most people here have bought into the idea that this phone will be released on May 21. Now, I'm in no position to say whether this is a true or false statement (even though when I called Moto they said Q3). Nevertheless, let's say that it is true. Here's my question then: Why would VZW not be advertising the hell out of this thing? People on these forums probably make up what, 5% of everyone who has a cell phone? I would say that the vast majority of the cellular community has no idea that this phone is even pending. If there is less than a week until it is on the shelves, wouldn't VZW be trying to let everyone know about this awesome phone that will cost a billion dollars?
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Because the phone will sell itself. Plus if motorola is sending out text messaging a few days ago telling us its coming out, then it is. Verizon doesnt NEED for the phone to sell completely out on day one. They can begin advertisements the day off and within a week or 2 they've accomplished what they've needed to.
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Hmmm, okay, I suppose I can see that point of view. However, didn't the text message just say that the V710 was "worth the wait"? To me that says it will be a while before it comes out, and they are trying to pacify anyone who had decided not to wait and purchase a different phone.
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LieBuster said:
I would say that the vast majority of the cellular community has no idea that this phone is even pending. If there is less than a week until it is on the shelves, wouldn't VZW be trying to let everyone know about this awesome phone that will cost a billion dollars?
During my entire tenure with Verizon, never once did they advertise a phone that wasn't released yet. Verizon has never been the type of company that had a sign up page to be notified when a certain phone was released. They have an email service that will tell you when any phone is released but not a particular one. Verizon isn't really big on advertising like that, in matter of fact Motorola will do the bulk of the advertising ...
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Okay, I wasn't a marketing major (actually, I'm a doctor), but that seems like an ignorant plan. If I were VZW, part of what I would want to accomplish with this phone is to yank some customers from other services. I think that could be done by letting people know that they have this excellent phone that will soon be released. Just my opinion.
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Maybe its VZW's way of admitting they don't always meet their own release dates? If they advertise prior to the release date and its missed by several weeks, they've wasted a lot of opportunities. Especially if Moto is promoting the phone and its only available thru VZW, why waste the $$. Wait for it to come out.
Also, they must have an idea how many people are eligible for NE2, etc. so they know where their market for the phone will be. No sense pissing us off with dates that keep slipping (if they do).
Just my thoughts, I'm neither doctor nor marketing major!
Also, they must have an idea how many people are eligible for NE2, etc. so they know where their market for the phone will be. No sense pissing us off with dates that keep slipping (if they do).
Just my thoughts, I'm neither doctor nor marketing major!
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I'm not a marketing major either, but I work in a retail store; one of the longest standing sayings in retail sales is "Sell what's available today". Verizon doesn't want to advertise a phone that you can't buy yet because people would wait instead of buying the phones they can get their hands on right now. If every cellular customer knew what phone was coming out next, they would never buy a phone because they would always be on the lookout for the next best thing. At my meetings, my Verizon reps are always VERY reluctant to tell us release information, because they don't want their sales people telling customers "Don't buy this one now, wait till next week when the new phone comes out." The only way they stay in business is selling what th...
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I'm not a marketing major either, but I work in a retail store; one of the longest standing sayings in retail sales is "Sell what's available today". Verizon doesn't want to advertise a phone that you can't buy yet because people would wait instead of buying the phones they can get their hands on right now. If every cellular customer knew what phone was coming out next, they would never buy a phone because they would always be on the lookout for the next best thing. At my meetings, my Verizon reps are always VERY reluctant to tell us release information, because they don't want their sales people telling customers "Don't buy this one now, wait till next week when the new phone comes out." The only way they s
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mkl4466 said:
I'm not a marketing major either, but I work in a retail store; one of the longest standing sayings in retail sales is "Sell what's available today". Verizon doesn't want to advertise a phone that you can't buy yet because people would wait instead of buying the phones they can get their hands on right now.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Rule #1 of retail, sale what you can physically put your hands on TODAY. Do not sell dreams as sometimes they do not come true so you sell what you can touch, not a piece of paper sayign when to expect it. Rule #2 Never say something is better than the other especially when they are in the same store. I've held a couple of retail positions and learne...
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Verizon sells wireless services. The phones are mearly the means to reach that wireless service. Motorola sells the phone, and hence markets it. Look at all verizon advertising campaigns, they are advertising "can you hear me now" not the fact that you hear it on a V60S, T730i, VX6000 or whatever.
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I'm not sure how long you've been with verizon but they're not big at all on advertising something they're not yet selling. They never have been the company to do that type thing so a silent release on their part is all too common. They're the type of company where you may call in the day before the release and ask when a phone is coming out and they'll tell you in 3 months or something. Their purpose behind doing that is so they'll always have you locked in that contract and they don't want you holding out for anything. They would much rather have you spend your money then and have you locked in that contract then if you want to upgrade they hit you with extending the contract either another 2 years or purchasing something at retail price. ...
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LieBuster said:
wouldn't VZW be trying to let everyone know about this awesome phone that will cost a billion dollars?
Well, they let ME know. The only reason I am here is because I went to a verizon booth a week ago to sign up for a camera phone. After listening to what I wanted the dude said I was better off waiting for the new V710 when it comes out. (BTW he told me later this month, but I don't know if he really knows or not he just works in a mall verizon store). Turns out he was right - I do want the V710.
BTW, this was only after I told him I was going to wait for number portability (May 25 here). My guess is that Verizon would rather make a sale NOW than tell you to wait for a new phone that's c...
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