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@sswipe, all of the compaies you mentioned are CELL PHONE MAKERS. NOT CELLULAR COMPANIES

grrrr tit for tat. 🙄 yea I don't see what being a german company has to do with anything...

From what i understand T-Mobile overseas is pretty good, but i don't know that for a fact. They're business itself seems to be run pretty well, the service is just lacking in the US as a whole.

I heard t-mobile was up for sale, but they deny because they don't want there U.S. image to look tarnished.

There was a rumor that they were going to sell their U.S. market, but they have decided not to. Apparently, even though T-mobile is the smallest Tier one carrier now, it is actually the largest growing aspect of T-mobile throughout the world.

Business srategy #1- increase coverage by over 50% in 2005 alone- accomplished! Business strategy #2- best in wireless for customer satisfaction in 2005 (not to mention the 2 years before)- accomplished! Business strategy #3- forget roaming agreements with analog-heavy Cingular in favor of roaming agreements with companies that matter in 2005- accomplished! As for coverage, T-Mobile offers a personal coverage check, so that every cusomer knows exactly what to expect from their coverage before ever even signign up. Everyone can speculate all they want, but the reality is, T-Mobile USA would (of course) not be for sale. In the next two years, a more accurate prediction would be that Verizon and T-Mobile are the 2 major carriers, the main dif...
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Explain to me how T-mobile is ever going to take the GSM market when they don't even own their own towers, they just purchase minutes from Cingular in bulk and resell them in a smaller coverage area.... They are only a company by name, they are just a reseller

🤣 I dont know where you got that bogus information, however, T-Mobile owns and operates their own towers. They do have roaming agreements with Cingular and other GSM providers in the United States. FYI T-Mobile has recently been reported as having (Owns) more of their own towers than Verizon. Tower for tower. I recently heard this information at a quartly T-mobile meeting. I didnt need to respond to your e-mail, however, some people who read these posting are un-edu-macated. 🤣

Of course you would say that, you work for T-mobile, and yes they do OWN some of their own towers, but I'd like to see what proof you have that they own a tower in the United States.

i work for a 3rd party verizon dealer but we also sell tmobile in other states, t-mobile does own there own towers and is now rated as the second largest network behind verizon

T- Mobile Coverage is considerably Horrible in my area by my understanding, this comes from idea that I port roughly 5 T-Moble customer per month personally, generally all with more or less coverage complaints.

I agree with you, but that is flawed logic. Obviously the people you port are going to be the ones who have problems. You aren't going to see happy T-Mobile customers coming in to port.

Actually last month I've ported 13 T-Mo customers, only one was unhappy. The others liked our deals MUCH better.

t-mo's business strategy in 2008

be one of the leading sponsors of the transformers sequal and thus gain market share from the segment of people that like to see machines transform into other machines

build a cell phone that transforms into a car

drop their current spokesperson and pick up shia labeouff and change their slogan to "get more... than meets the eye"

finally sell out to at&t after nearly going the way of the sprint for a lousy business strategy

Who cares who owns the towers? Sure all companies lease some toweres...

Lets talk about towers available for customers to use, which is all the customer cares about.

How do you know T-Mobile doesnt own their own towers??? just curious???

my friend you have lost it ! Tell me this,what other gsm carriers would tmo rather have roaming agreements with ????????????? there is only one major gsm carrier and thats cingular. I look for tmos parent company to build up a little more and then sell off to cingular

That's what I see happening in the future.

k you guys are nuts, there is no way that t-mobile will be able to build their company up and then sell it, talk about a monopoly... t-mobile is second to last in customers with 20+ mil. and cingular (being the largest) has what alomst 60 mil.. together that would give them a huge monopoly.. something congress would never let happen... plust tmob is going down hill if anything

And the poor coverage area hasn't done that already?

I have been with T-Mobile for two years. I have had excellent customer service. I have been with Sprint and Verizon before. They all have good equipment, so for me I hope T-Mobile sticks around in the U.S. market. 😳

What do you people want? Oh i get it, a fantasy, service that works on every inch of the plant? Guess you ought to get a Satellite phone, cuz land based celluar systems arent going to cut it. Service with any service provider at this point is great, unless your Jack in Jill up in the freaking hills, who dont purchase celluar at a profitable rate anywaz. Why does it suck when you phone doesn't work (out of service area) for about 20-30 mintues? Are you serious!! Get real, most major highways, byways, metro, and major cities are covered. Who cares about your camping trip, or cross country adventure where your phone service didnt reach. If it works 90% of the time you are getting great service. I'm sure you wouldn't want to pay and extra $50...
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And what if a customer has an accident while camping or out on the road and a suburban area. Most of the time the people that NEED a cell phone want it for safety reasons, and if you do indeed work for t-mobile, i hope that your realize that people look at your resposes as a direct example of your company!

well actually every cell phone has a function that will allow you to make emergency phone calls from your phone regardless of where you are.... 😁

Its called HAM radio. Its what we used before cell phones. ;)

TheMarshMaster said:
well actually every cell phone has a function that will allow you to make emergency phone calls from your phone regardless of where you are.... 😁

do you care to explain how all cell phones can do that? the carrier's don't have every inch of earth covered. 😕

if you are making an emergency call your cell phone will use any available tower not dependant on your carrier, that's what your good old 911 tax is on your bill...The More You Know..... 😎

TheMarshMaster said:
if you are making an emergency call your cell phone will use any available tower not dependant on your carrier, that's what your good old 911 tax is on your bill...The More You Know..... 😎

lets try this again you said that a cell phone could make a 911 call from any where 😁 how can it do this out in a rual area with no cell towers around from any carrier ? 😁 you did say any where 😁 are you talking about satellite phones if so you did not say so? 😁

no cell phones aren't available anywhere, they aren't satellite phones, though technically they do have gps systems in them, but my point was this: having T-mobile will not be any worse than having any other provider in any emergency 911 situation.

You know nothing about T-Mobile!!!

About T-Mobile coverage. There is no need to have the entire USA covered with cell towers. The fact of the matter is that T-Mobile gives coverage where it COUNTS. The coverage is biased in the context of population in a location.

How can you say that T-Mobile gives coverage where it counts?? T-Mobile coverage is sh!tty! I had problems getting service in areas where they CLAIM to have coverage. AT&T has far better coverage.

bigchieftoiletpaper said:
@sswipe, all of the compaies you mentioned are CELL PHONE MAKERS. NOT CELLULAR COMPANIES

BTW Verizon Wireless is a partially owned by VODAFONE.

rockprc said:
When you see a BT sign at a gas station, it's not Bluetooth, it stands for British Petroleum. BTW, Bluetooth is a Swedish invention by Ericsson. Boy, if you are so worried about foreign companies selling their goods in US, then you will not fond a cell phone that is US made, what you going to do about it?

We are in the global economy. Grow up! Whether you like it or not

You do realize its hard to take you seriously when you can't spell. BT is not British Petroleum, BP is.

LG = Korea

SForsyth01 said:

bigchieftoiletpaper said:
business Plan?

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I guess it does not help they are German owned

Hey, Jerk....I have done business with MANY German corporations, and I have news for you. They are more organized and more strategically inclined than ANY American organization you could think of.

German companies are simply amazing.

SForsyth01 said:

bigchieftoiletpaper said:
business Plan?

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I guess it does not help they are German owned

Hey, Jerk....I have done business with MANY German corporations, and I have news for you. They are more organized and more strategically incline

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you know i believe t-mobile usa is a great company, but if you are looking at german industry from an economic stand point then you should note that the Germany has one of the highest unemployment rate for a industrialized country.

...should've left the wall up then...

that is their business plan, to be the largest international carrier, which they are.

for people willing to think that the universe is bigger than simply the USA, this makes sense.

The post you replied to is for djhavek.

This kind of topic has been replayed SO many times in SO many forums. I hadn't bothered myself wondering about the differences in carriers in a couple of years. But I always go back and redo the research on them when my contract is up for renewal, and I just went through that exercise again.

We (my company) had been with AT&T, Cellular One and Bell Atlantic Mobile (pre-Verizon days), generally having an awful experience with each of them, before we switched over to Voicestream. The improvement in customer service was dramatic by contrast to the others, and the number of delayed voice-mail notifications and "all circuits busy" issues dropped from annoying to virtually non-existent too when we made the switch.

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I have had TMOBILE for 2 yrs and absolutely love their coverage, phone selection and especially their customer service...so speak for yourself motoslutty

The coverage maps between T-Mobile and Cingular are a bit misleading. Cingular's printed coverage map includes areas with planned coverage in the near future, so it overstates their coverage a bit.

T-Mobile's current maps are a bit outdated, and only show their native 1900 MHz coverage, and do NOT reflect the expanded coverage that comes with their new roaming agreements. The new agreements are 90% activated now, and the rest should be in place most likely by year end. The result is that they've added about 40% beyond the coverage you see on the printed map. There are a few discussion threads on this over at HoFo, including some in which the maps can be seen - with and without the roaming agreements added in as overlays.

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alltel could put gsm phones out now if they wanted because they have gsm towers.

MY BUTt THEIR SERVICE IS junk anyways

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Alltel is CDMA not GSM

Alltel has bought some TDMA/GSM carriers, and some towers are still on both digital standards, and the customers that still use those towers are mainly those who haven't upgraded their phones and plans, and a few still on contract with GSM service. Once a customer upgrades, then they switch to CDMA service. Alltel hasn't spent enough money to convert all the towers to CDMA yet. The AT&T customers that Alltel acquired in divested markets will eventually have to switch to CDMA phones if they want to stay with Alltel. Otherwise they'll have to change carriers to get GSM service. If Alltel can come up with the money, they'll try to buy T-Mobile, though select markets would have to be divested, but not many as Alltel & T-Mobile don't compete...
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Alltel will not have GSM phones, if they did... Those GSM phones would not work in their primarily CDMA coverage area.

I dont think its likely that Alltel would buy T-Mobile... I think its more likely that T-Mobile buys Alltel... T-Mobile is a big boy... Alltel is still a kid....

LOL.

Verizon is easy to beat, they are way over priced homie! here's the thing, yea they got EVdo Tv and stuff like that, but most people want the cool stuff, but dont want to pay for it! Just cuz, they got the stuff, dnt mean it works likes it suppose to(speed). and besides i want more mintues for the less money and i want a phone thats going to work in 90% of the areas i'm in and that's T-mobile. So you keep on spending ridiculess amounts of money on crappy plans, and service in places you never visit (po dunk backwoods). and i will get more and pay less, and get a great discount on a new phone every year, why you wait two years sucker 🤣

Your points seem valid. But most people are willing to pay more for their plans to get coverage in 99.9% of the areas, like I am.

T-Mobile USA is getting awfully reminiscent of the late ATTWS... and there's a big Orange giant waiting...

T-Mobile, rated #1 in customer service 2 years in a row by JD Power! Also, rated #1 in call quality. In some cases, they emphasize that more than the very competitive rate plans. International roaming, lower activation, only 1 year contracts, etc... are all good selling points as well.

you brought this dead thread back from the graveyard? how far did you dig to come to the defense of t-mobile?

They weren't defending T-Mobile, they were adding a comment to what I already said. At least read the post they were responding to, before attacking them, you troll!

troll? i was commenting on her posting a reply to comment made over a month ago. most people would just let those threads die.

I read threads at least once a week, and only comment about 4 times a month. This would also be the first time that I entered the "rumor mill" link. If this thread was so dead, why did you feel the need to comment in it? 😉
As far as digging, a subscription to RCR Wireless News keeps me informed. 😁

So what! every wireless company has bad spots, they all try to be the best, however, subscriber growth, terrain, and building structure all affect the strengh of a singal.How do you know your phone doesn't suck, and futher more, most national companies dont want to cover rural areas, cuz jack and jill in the freaking hills arent buying celluar service, hence,not very profiable! Most consumers travel by plain these days, in which they fly their happy asses to major cities, like chicago were i have been, and my T-mobile phone worked fine. Maybe you should check your phone homie, look's like it sucks, and the skuttle butt your putting out is bogus. If you cant get reception get a nokia!

I'm glad I didn't get T-Mobile. I like the plans, but not their network. And good for you that T-Mobile works for you. For the few people I meet from time to time that have T-Mobile, few actually like the service. Most complain about static to a tower having overloaded circuits, and with their coverage rather spotty, dropped calls too. T-Mobile had an opportunity to bid on AT&T, but they turned it down, and it resulted in Cingular getting bigger, along with Alltel getting a good chunk of the divested GSM network, and what Alltel got will eventually be converted to CDMA. BTW, I have VZW. I had a Motorola, and upgraded to Samsung. My Samsung works a lot better than the Moto. My co-worker has Samsung on T-Mobile and only works great wh...
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😛 Your phone probably sucked. Its usually the phone if you live in a great area(major cities, or metro)! Your new phone probably works well, lets see how well its works in six months, cuz that's when they usually start sucking, unless its a Nokia then you might get a year or two or three in general. but that all depends on how you treat your phone? You probably drop it, expose it to extreme temperatures (hot/cold), yet its suppose to work great all the time, hell pc's sit in stationary positions most their lives and dont act right( less you have a mac)! But its always the Carriers fault when Celluar manufacturers make crappy phones right! 😢

not necessarily motorola's are heavily known for this and 90% of them are quad band. what does having two extra bands that we don't use for cellular here have ANYthing to do with "all circuts busy" signals being cut down?....nothing.

Yes it does, bandwith on a phone isn't just for international capability. In areas with large populations they have towers with more than just the two U.S. bandwiths.

😕 NO THEY DON'T! 😡

the US bands are 850/1900. yea the may tune a tower or two for 1950 or 830 but their is no way possible a quad band phone is better than a 850/1900 dual band phone in the US.

your dumb 😡 stop posting. t-mobile did pioneer GSM in the states. you and your idiotic post are killing me. sit down and learn something before you share dumb insight 👿

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Actually
Sprint in 1995 was the pioneer for GSM on PCS

I think AT&T Wireless was the 1st with GSM for Cellular in 2002

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can you provide a link with proof?

i almost sure t-mobile was the first company with GSM in the states. they too use the pcs band

well first first and formost they have to address their concerns with spectrum (3g) and their network (towers).

1. buy a lot of spectrum in the 3g auction.
2. increase their footprint
3. buy out another provider (such as alltel or others)

2007? perhaps, but i think they should do it earlier, or perhaps when alltel spins off its local.

why would t-mob buy altel? last i knew they were selling off what little gsm they had and going all cdma.

to grow their footprint.. as i said it doesnt make a differnce with technology differences.. they could always do a gsm/cdma type device.

I think it makes a much bigger difference then you might imagine. Has Sprint/Nextel even come out with an iDen/CDMA device yet?

I think dual technology mergers are a bad idea. If you had a GSM/CDMA device, no matter how cool it would be, you would have to drop the call in order to do a tower handoff between techs. And dropped calls are the kryptonite to carriers. It's not something that would be in T-mobile's best interest.

sprint will have the device in october of this year...

many carriers out there have gsm/cdma phones and i dont see any problems with it.. (i have no problem)

Dude, I know of 1 phone off hand (Moto A840) that has GSM/CDMA, and that's just for international roaming. How many freaking people use GSM/CDMA devices in the US? And the A840 doesn't even have domestic GSM, so you can't say it works fine. I know Sprint has one too, but it's the same story with that one.

Cingular GAIT was a nightmare, it would be the same story with GSM/CDMA.

I saw Sprints new CDMA/iDen phones, and they do look really cool actually, especially the i530-esque one. We'll just have to see if they work nicely.

Hey,

Looking at the 2005 reports, Tmobile was the lowest drop call carrier in the U.S and opened more new sites than any other company. J.D. power award for best customer satisfaction for 2003, 2004, and 2005. Yes its owned by Germans so is half of U.S... Coverage has gone a lot better since last year and is improving, check out the Personal coverage check at t-mobile.com.

isn't a Necropost ???? 😳

What the heck is a "necropost"???

from the greek necros meaning "dead" ...
revivivng a long dead postto the ire of all the forum users

Oh.
Well thanks for getting back to me.