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timberhilfiger

Nov 16, 2004, 10:26 AM
Is nextel's IDEN technology capable of handling the same features as cdma and 3g networks and GSM and their edge and gprs. I have noticed in my time as a nextel customer that the signal service of nextel is far superior (at least in my area) to that of any other phone service. I have also noticed that nextel doesnt really have a variety of smartphones, or features such as mobitv, or a new generation network like all the other carriers. I was wondering can nextels current network handle the same things as say sprints 3g network, and if not will it be upgraded soon if upgradeable or replaced?
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southwestcomm

Nov 16, 2004, 12:35 PM
Nextel's current network will support data speeds up to 36k. They are working on an intermediate upgrade called Widen. It should provide the same data speeds that Sprint offers.
Nextel is working on a wireless broadband product. Visit www.nextelbroadband.com. It is offered in the Raleigh NC region currently as a test market. No specific time frame for national depolymen. It has received great reviews.
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MarkF

Nov 16, 2004, 1:58 PM
Once NEXTEL and Public Safety do the band swap and NEXTEL has the 821 to 823 MHz spectrum nationwide it will be easier for them to deploy WiDEN. Right now it's only in certain locations as NEXTEL doesn't have contiguous channels at every site/sector.

Look for the swap to be completed in about 2.5 to 3 years from now and NEXTEL will then populate the 1.9 GHz band that was awarded to them for either Flarion or CDMA for data.

See:
http://www.consensusplan.org/plugin/template/ consensus/Welcome/*
for more information on the re-banding.
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Rich Brome

Nov 16, 2004, 2:04 PM
iDEN will be replaced. Right now, Nextel is evaluating both EV-DO release A and Flash-OFDM as possible replacements. They are expected to make a decision early next year, then award contracts soon after to build the new network.

There will be a new network, new phones, new spectrum... the whole nine yards. There will certainly be a transition period where both networks operate side-by-side, but I'm guessing it will not last more than 1-2 years. Nextel must eventually vacate much of its current spectrum in order to solve the interference problems with public safety radios.

So Nextel will be killing two birds with one stone: moving to a new technology in order to offer 3G, and doing it in new spectrum to solve interference issues.
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MarkF

Nov 16, 2004, 3:52 PM
Sorry Rich, but that is incorrect. NEXTEL has never planned to remove itself from the 800 Spectrum. They are looking to create another nationwide cellular block in the 816 to 824/861 to 869 spectrum. The new 1.9 GHz allocation will be used in conjunction with the 816/861 spectrum that is currently part Public Safety NPSPAC band which is 821/866 thru 824/869MHz and General Category channels.

As part of the rebanding NEXTEL will:
1. be giving up the 700 MHz spectrum that they won at auction immediately and
2. will eventually give up its 900 MHz holdings once the re-banding is completed.

The reason for this is that NEXTEL will have to move interconnect calls to 900 while their spectrum is in limbo and the rebanding is in process. ...
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Rich Brome

Nov 16, 2004, 4:44 PM
Yes... How does any of that contradict what I said? 😕

I said there would be new spectrum involved. Did I say it would all be in the 1900 band? No. Did I say Nextel would remove itself from the 800 band completely? No. I am well aware that Nextel will be keeping and using parts of lower band licenses. That's why I was careful to say "Nextel must eventually vacate much of its current spectrum." "Much" is not "all".

As for which technology they will use, Nextel has already issued RFPs for both Flash_OFDM and EV-DO. They are due back this month, and Nextel executives have said on the record that they expect to make a decision early next year, with deployment scheduled for 2006-2007:

http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=61 »...
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MarkF

Nov 16, 2004, 6:45 PM
Rich Brome said:
Yes... How does any of that contradict what I said? 😕

I said there would be new spectrum involved. Did I say it would all be in the 1900 band? No. Did I say Nextel would remove itself from the 800 band completely? No. I am well aware that Nextel will be keeping and using parts of lower band licenses. That's why I was careful to say "Nextel must eventually vacate much of its current spectrum." "Much" is not "all".


NEXTEL is giving up about 1.5 MHz in some markets at most. That isn't even a blip as compared to what they have right now. There is a really big misconception as to what NEXTEL is doing from those who don't know the facts entirely. I'm not saying that you don...
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