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a few things coming in may

nextel18

Apr 28, 2004, 12:49 PM
the 830 in silver and copper
and the international direct connect and international pocket data..

if more things come about i will tell you guys
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2004, 3:34 PM
i didnt know who danimsta was i got pics from my connects at nextel so yea.. plus the fcc reoprts as well. i heard its going to be in silver as well too .. the copper one isnt that attractive , but the silver one is .. i will probably order it for my store , im not exactly sure yet
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2004, 4:59 PM
next thing approved is the 325

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/Vi ... »

if that works good if it doesnt let me know
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kx500

Apr 28, 2004, 6:18 PM
Is the 830 a dual band phone?
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2004, 7:34 PM
not sure but you can go all over the world with nextel phones anyway .. its just a selected few though.. go to www.nextel.com go to coverage and then go to worldwide service
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MarkF

Apr 29, 2004, 4:36 AM
NEXTEL only has 1 worldwide phone. The rest of the phones are not GSM capable and won't work in Europe.
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nextel18

Apr 29, 2004, 1:39 PM
actually they would becuase when i was in europe my phone worked
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mmdstech

Apr 29, 2004, 2:44 PM
The only handset Nextel offers with iDEN/GSM is the i2000. This phone is no longer being sold. So what phone were you using?
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nextel18

Apr 29, 2004, 10:38 PM
i was using my 730 it worked in europe and the middle east
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southwestcomm

Apr 29, 2004, 11:24 PM
Ummmmm not possible....
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MarkF

Apr 30, 2004, 4:56 AM
Try again dude...here is the site that shows which phones that NEXTEL provides for worldwide coverge:

http://nextel.com/services/worldwide/coverage/countr ... »

and just in case you can't read the fine print it states that:

1. Phone options indicate the type(s) of phone(s) available for use in the specified country.

and those phones are typicially:

i2000plus, v60, P280, and T720

You must of been dreaming that you were in Europe or the Middle East and using your i730.
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nextel18

Apr 30, 2004, 1:05 PM
your wrong again..becuase i remember using my 730 in europe and middle east.. becuase it worked there.. sorry 🙂 you can use any of the 3 digit phones in the middle east and europe and i used the 95 as well when i had it when i went to those places.. u go to those places with the 730 and it will work, but you havnt so you shouldnt say antying 🙂
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MarkF

Apr 30, 2004, 2:16 PM
nextel18 said:
your wrong again..becuase i remember using my 730 in europe and middle east.. becuase it worked there.. sorry 🙂 you can use any of the 3 digit phones in the middle east and europe and i used the 95 as well when i had it when i went to those places.. u go to those places with the 730 and it will work, but you havnt so you shouldnt say antying 🙂


If the 730 worked in Europe wouldn't you think that the NEXTEL website would say so.

Considering that a number of us highly doubt that a non-GSM phone (such as a NEXTEL) would work over there...if you say use used it over there, what carrier deployed iDEN over there? Who did you pay to use it when the bill came in? Don't say that you got it ...
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muchdrama

Apr 30, 2004, 3:14 PM
MarkF said:
nextel18 said:
your wrong again..becuase i remember using my 730 in europe and middle east.. becuase it worked there.. sorry 🙂 you can use any of the 3 digit phones in the middle east and europe and i used the 95 as well when i had it when i went to those places.. u go to those places with the 730 and it will work, but you havnt so you shouldnt say antying 🙂


If the 730 worked in Europe wouldn't you think that the NEXTEL website would say so.

Considering that a number of us highly doubt that a non-GSM phone (such as a NEXTEL) would work over there...if you say use used it over there, what carrier deployed iDEN over there? Who did you pay to use it when the bill came i
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nextel18

Apr 30, 2004, 4:43 PM
i never worked in europe .. i said i been there. and in the middle east plenty of times and it worked .. but if u and him dont belive it i could really careless.

mr mark i have a question for ya... what is the differnce between 1.9ghz band and the 2.1 ghz band?
and if its the 2.1ghz can nextel still do flarion? and if its 1.9 can nextel also do flarion?

and how will nextel do the transition between their spectrum 800 and 900 and move it to the upper 800mhz band ?

what will be the causes or problems of the move? (ie no coverage sometimes? or bad service at other times? )
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nextel18

Apr 30, 2004, 5:22 PM
http://www.nextel.com/services/worldwide/frequent_tr ... »

Travel with your Nextel Internet-ready1 phone and your current phone number when you visit Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, Argentina, Israel, Singapore, and the Philippines. In order to make international calls (for example, back to the U.S.) you must activate international dialing privileges on your phone by contacting Customer Care. Even if you do not activate international dialing, you will still be able to receive calls and make local calls and will be charged the international rate for the country in which you are located.
Regardless of the option you select, you'll enjoy the ease and convenience of having Nextel's worldwide service available to you in over 90 countries...
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nextel18

Apr 30, 2004, 11:49 PM
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/legal.shtml »

Nextel, the Nextel logo, the drivers' safety logo, Nextel Online, Nextel Worldwide, Nextel Direct Connect, Nextel Mobile Extension, Nextel Business Networks, Nextel National Plans, iTraveler, Nextel Nextday, How business gets done, How business gets done instantly, Nationwide Direct Connect, PUSH TO TALK, PTT, One phone. One number. Worldwide, and The next generation of wireless communications are trademarks, registered trademarks and/or service marks of Nextel Communications, Inc.


so again the person who said they didnt trademark push to talk and ptt.. something is def. wrong with you.. it says on their legal web page... so it seems like none of u knows your info.. mark doesnt know about u ...
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southwestcomm

May 1, 2004, 12:06 AM
Funny how you spin your cut-and-paste.

The only true world phone available now for world use is the T720:
"Buy the T720 phone. This small, lightweight, easy-to-use phone is for international use ONLY. Use this phone in conjunction with your Nextel phone for Nextel Worldwide service in over 90 countries."

For the few countries you can use your iDEN Nextel phone from the US:
"Travel with your Nextel Internet-ready1 phone and your current phone number when you visit Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, Argentina, Israel, Singapore, and the Philippines. In order to make international calls (for example, back to the U.S.) you must activate international dialing privileges on your phone by contacting Customer Care. Even if you do not activate int...
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:17 AM
lol yea my 730 did .. sorry .. and my 95 did as well.. all internet ready phones can work in other countries.. i have experience it it actually says it , but like i said if u dont belive me it doesnt hurt me .. it hurts you ..
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southwestcomm

May 1, 2004, 12:10 AM
The link, from Nextel's site, lists what phones work in each country. So you are disputing Nextel's information?

Your i730, and old i95, would not work in Israel, Spain or France.

http://www.nextel.com/services/worldwide/coverage/co ... »
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:19 AM
yep it would it said internet phones and 730 and 95 are both internet phones.. but it did work when i was there.. so like i said before it doesnt hurt me if u dont belive me .. i know i experienced it and it worked.. i am going this year to israel i will give u call
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:21 AM
it worked so drop it.. i know you probably dont travel at all . its sad.. maybe travel sometimes and u will see.. i thought it wouldnt work too but it did and i have no problems.. i was using it every day actually.. but like i keep saying u dont belive me doesnt hurt me it hurts you. u probably dont travel and get out much , and i do feel bad for you.. if you want to talk about nextel itself then me and my phones were workin in those areas and many others then talk about it otherwise dont talk about my experiences.. go to israel yourself and see it work ..
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MarkF

May 1, 2004, 6:06 AM
and to add to this, this is what you have to do to use NEXTEL in Europe:

http://www.nextel.com/phones_plans/phones/internatio ... »

Use your existing Nextel phone number all around the world when you buy a phone for international use. Nextel's T720 phone is specifically designed to work on the GSM network--a network that is used in more than 90 countries worldwide.

By placing the removable identity card (SIM ID card) from a compatible U.S. Nextel phone into the T720 phone, you'll be able to enjoy many of the same Nextel features1 you rely on in the U.S., including Voice Mail and Voice Activated Dialing.2 The T720 phone does NOT work on the U.S. Nextel National Network. Once you return home, simply place the identi
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 10:20 AM
well im sorry my 730 and 95 worked in europe and israel .. now stop arguing about it and actually go there and you will see it works
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mmdstech

May 1, 2004, 11:10 AM
You are arguing with a RF engineer? Now that's funny. What do you do nextel18? Flip burgers, or deliver pizza?
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:14 PM
i wasnt arguing with him i was asking him a question about the transition.. and yea i am arguing with him about the 95 and 730 phones that can work in israel and europe becuase i actually went there and i bet he hasnt thats why..

i dont do antyhing im wealthy i dont need to work.. 🙂
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:15 PM
i have a nextel store and expanding to more locations but other than that i have stock and property so i get an income per month so i dont have to work like u guys hahahahahaha retards..

what can nextel do with that 96mhz ? nationwide? or half nationwide?
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mmdstech

May 1, 2004, 12:21 PM
nextel18 said:
i have a nextel store and expanding to more locations but other than that i have stock and property so i get an income per month so i dont have to work like u guys hahahahahaha retards..

what can nextel do with that 96mhz ? nationwide? or half nationwide?


They will aim a directional antenna at your head, with a 200watt PA.
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:25 PM
thats why .. im asking u a question and you cant answer thats why i keep asking u all the time becuase u cant answer.. im trying to ask you what can they do with the 96mhz of mmds spectrum .. if u dont answer i will just ask someone who does its not such a big deal..
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:26 PM
markf you seem like an educated person more educated than mmdstech..

so maybe u can help me what can nextel do with the 96mhz of mmds spectrum? like nationwide? or half nationwide?

will they have to buy the other mmds spectrum from sprint to go nationwide? or do they have enough to do it nationwide?
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phonepimp3376

May 3, 2004, 12:15 PM
Here are a couple of questions for you, nextel18. First off let me state that I do not work for Nextel, but for a GSM carrier. I have extensive experience in wireless, and this is not the first technology I have worked under. I've sold all three current technologies - GSM, CDMA and iDEN.

Here are my questions:

1) if Nextels internet ready phones are also world phones, why have a separate program for international travelers that features the T720 Moto? Why not simply sell the phones they normally sell, and let people know which ones work internationally.

2) A great deal of the world (currently over 225 countries worldwide) use GSM... it is the one true global standard... CDMA holds much more international potential than iDEN as well....
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nextel18

May 3, 2004, 12:17 PM
those are fair questions.. well the moto 720 is for all over the world not in just few places that the regular internet ready phones .. the moto phone only works in those counties not in the united states. i dont know ask nextel lol .
it is on my bill however, i dont pay anyhting for my bills.

why do i travel? lol cuz i love to travel its fun
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 10, 2005, 11:24 AM
You don't know, ask Nextel??

What happened to your tie to the wireless industry? Aren't your connections strong enough to answer a a simple question like that?
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nextel18

Apr 10, 2005, 4:52 PM
somethings you cant say becuase of inside information.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 10, 2005, 4:54 PM
Why a phone doesnt work in other countries is no big secret, it's obvious and Nextel makes it clear, therefore you should know why. I do, therefore you should too.
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nextel18

Apr 10, 2005, 4:56 PM
alrighty. well i am sure he got the information from nextel, so its ok.

why are you posting something that was posted back in the day? out of curiousity?
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Apr 10, 2005, 4:58 PM
Because it's my self given right to do so. 🙂
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nextel18

Apr 10, 2005, 5:02 PM
alright 🙂 😁
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ballerblue

Apr 11, 2005, 12:08 AM
I just wanted everyone to know, I had a i95CL and last spring, when I went to Acapulco, Mexico I was able to recieve phone calls. I was not able to make them, however I was able to recieve them. Thus, despite what Nextel's website says, the i95cl does work in atleast some parts of Mexico. As a result one could conclude, that perhaps Nextel 18 is correct and his phone worked in Eurpoe.

Thanks
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2005, 12:10 AM
yea, some phones actually work in places where the web site says they dont. its quite wierd and interesting.

welcome 🙂
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isotropic_misanthropic

Apr 10, 2005, 6:58 PM
nextel18 said:
somethings you cant say becuase of inside information.
Or because of the fact you don't have that information to give.
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nextel18

Apr 10, 2005, 7:04 PM
i have plenty of information to give. just that some you cant say it becuase of whats called a confidentiality signing. i dont know if you understand that but people who are affiliated with the company in any way signs that agreement.
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isotropic_misanthropic

Apr 10, 2005, 7:07 PM
nextel18 said:
i have plenty of information to give. just that some you cant say it becuase of whats called a confidentiality signing. i dont know if you understand that but people who are affiliated with the company in any way signs that agreement.
It's called a "confidentiality agreement", Nextel. Geeze.
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nextel18

Apr 10, 2005, 7:14 PM
or that. it can be either or. you sign an agreement. duhhhhh. geezeee
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macman

May 3, 2004, 8:14 PM
phonepimp3376 said:

1) if Nextels internet ready phones are also world phones, why have a separate program for international travelers that features the T720 Moto? Why not simply sell the phones they normally sell, and let people know which ones work internationally.


Common misconception. All of Nextel's current phones work in a very limited number of locations internationally. Their Falcon line of phones will work in certain South America locations, some markets in Israel, and a couple of other misc. places. Thats why they sell the T720, because it works in the GSM markets. As you well know 😁 GSM is the standard throughout Europe and lots of other places.
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nextel18

May 3, 2004, 9:24 PM
exactly.. what a wonderful explanation
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MarkF

May 1, 2004, 5:59 AM
nextel18 said:
mr mark i have a question for ya... what is the differnce between 1.9ghz band and the 2.1 ghz band?
and if its the 2.1ghz can nextel still do flarion? and if its 1.9 can nextel also do flarion?

and how will nextel do the transition between their spectrum 800 and 900 and move it to the upper 800mhz band ?

what will be the causes or problems of the move? (ie no coverage sometimes? or bad service at other times? )


Well to answer your question, there is no real difference in performance between 1.9 or 2.1. Both will require the same amount of additional sites than what NEXTEL has now. One won't better than another.

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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 10:15 AM
so in your opinion should nextel get the 1.9 or 2.1?

and for flarion they dont have a lot of mmds spectrum to do it nationwide, however mr barry west said that it would cost about 2 billion dollars to do it nationwide. how if you say they will just use their mmds spectrum to do their flarion , but why would it cost 2 billion to do it nationwide? qchat isnt speed its more push to talk and cdma i dont think they want to pay 5 billion or more to go from iden to cdma .. does the 10mhz of 1.9ghz mean that they are all set with the flarion? becuase it says on flarion that you need to have only 1.25mhz of spectrum nationwide to do it nationwide .. so my quesiton is is the 1.9 ghz of 10 mhz enough to do flarion nationwide?
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mmdstech

May 1, 2004, 11:07 AM
Like we have told you a million times. Nextel, if they decide to rollout Flarion will use there MMDS spectrum in which they hold approx. 96MHZ in 2/3 of the U.S.
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:13 PM
i wasnt asking you i was asking the mark guy not you... so if they have 96mhz, and it is required to have 1.25mhz of spectrum to do it nationwide so that means they are deff covered to do it nationwide?
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mmdstech

May 1, 2004, 12:19 PM
1.25MHZ ist the bandwidth of the channel Flarion is using with OFDM. In the markets Nextel owns MMDS, they have 96MHZ of spectrum. Why do you ask the same questions all the time? You have no concept of wireless or RF. 🙄
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:24 PM
of course i dont work at that field the rf i mean i dont work in the rf field thats why i am asking YOU U STUPID IDIOT... so what can nextel do with the 96mhz of spectrum of the mmds ?
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mmdstech

May 1, 2004, 12:26 PM
nextel18 said:
of course i dont work at that field the rf i mean i dont work in the rf field thats why i am asking YOU U STUPID IDIOT... so what can nextel do with the 96mhz of spectrum of the mmds ?


I sell used cars.
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MarkF

May 1, 2004, 12:28 PM
nextel18 said:
so in your opinion should nextel get the 1.9 or 2.1?

so my quesiton is is the 1.9 ghz of 10 mhz enough to do flarion nationwide?


Well what I think and what happens are 2 totally different items.

As a user and NEXTEL stockholder I would love for them to receive and deploy 1.9 GHz for 850 million dollars. It would do wonders for the company's stance as a wireless provider. If the FCC does award NEXTEL with 1.9GHz, surely Verizon, Cingular, and AT&T will be bringing in front of the judge and that will be long, costly, and bad for the public safety agencies that are interfered with by NEXTEL and the "A" side cellular carrier.

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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:39 PM
see mark you are educated you answer all my questions and i thank you for that..

verizon and cingular and att wireless wont sue and try to block it becuase your right it would affect the public safety.. i dont know if you looked at the latest news but verizon and ctia are goin to come to an agreement to agree with 3 billion in payments and the upper 800mhz and that nextel would get the 2.1 ghz do you think thats a fair deal why or why not?
i still dont understand the differnce between the 1.9ghz band and the 2.1ghz band. what can you do differntly in each bands?

also do you think u can do some research on flarion so you can let me know about the 96mhz spectrum of mmds that nextel currently has?

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kx500

May 1, 2004, 12:43 PM
Why can't you do your own research? People like markf and mmdstech must have done there homework, so maybe you would benefit from reading and studying some RF for yourself? Not trying to flame.
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:49 PM
becuase im am confused about it hence thats why i ask questions.. mmds i dont listen to he is immature and the last few questions markf has answered me and i like those answers.. i did some research on the flarion and i dont understand it hence i ask questions..
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kx500

May 1, 2004, 12:52 PM
Ok. mmdstech has answered many questions for me on different sites, he know's iDEN, so I wouldn't say he is immature. 🙂
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mmdstech

May 1, 2004, 12:55 PM
kx500 said:
Ok. mmdstech has answered many questions for me on different sites, he know's iDEN, so I wouldn't say he is immature. 🙂


Thanks!
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 1:34 PM
he may know some things about iden. however im not askin him about iden.. im asking him about flarion thats not iden
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nextel18

May 2, 2004, 3:01 PM
mark.. if they get the 1.9ghz spectrum 10mhz from the CP is the pcs spectrum so they can do wimax? or is it spectrum to do flarion?

i mean worst comes they worst they either buy mmds spectrum to do it nationwide or i guess use the 1.9ghz to use wimax or buy out sprint pcs or something..

what do you think?
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kx500

May 2, 2004, 8:07 PM
Whats wimax?
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nextel18

May 2, 2004, 9:11 PM
maybe mmds tech or markf can answer it better.. but its a very high speed data.. let me find some infor for you....

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msg ... »

http://wifinetnews.com/archives/cat_wimax.html »

http://www.wirelessadvisor.com/waforums/messageview. ... »

The only problem with WiMAX is the line of sight requirement because it was originally designed to run at 10 - 66Ghz. But in a later revision they downbanded it to 2 - 11 Ghz so the line of sight is not a requirement anymore, which means it can be a mobile technology just like Flarion's. The WiMAX spec has a coverage range of about 30 miles per tower! and speeds up to 70MBps, so for the forseeable future that's hard to beat.

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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 1:33 PM
i know he knows iden.. but he isnt answering my questions with flarion.. with his statments thats what i ment that he was immature.. i like markf becuase he actually knows about it.. if u dont know about something dont u ask?
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nextel18

May 1, 2004, 12:47 PM
i am a share holder also and a nextel subscriber so yea..

i just wanted what u had to say about the CP and about the Flarion.. i talked to some FLarion well nextel BB supervisors they said they would evaluate everything in december to decide to go nationwide or not.. so i was just askin u is it possible etc... and what do they have to do to go nationwide and if that spectrum they have is enough etc..... so take ur time on the flarion u can do some research and ask BB suport some questions or how ever u get your info becuase i would like to know🙂 so thanks if you can . and if u cant i guess i will have to ask some more people and see if barry west and the ceo can tell it in the upcoming months in the telle conference but if u can answer ...
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nextel18

Apr 30, 2004, 4:39 PM
i dont know ... and yea i dont pay for my bill sorry... i do feel bad for you .. and plus nextel works in israel .. and in europe . becuase i know and i was in both places with my 730 and with my 95.. in israel they have mirs which is very simliar to nextel. in europe i dont know but i know it worked perfectly .. like i said becuase i was there..
it doesnt matter if u belive me or not i know it worked.
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MarkF

Apr 28, 2004, 6:34 PM
You know what is really interesting is that with all the Consensus Plan advertising that NEXTEL is doing, this phone is only type accepted to 821/866 MHz max. They could get it type accepted for the NPSPAC band and if it goes thru they won't have to amend the type acceptance. Seems like a lot of work only to do it all over again.

I like the 900 MHz part, it will be cool to go off network to PTT in a limited area and not have to worry about getting put in the que. 😁
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2004, 7:35 PM
yea i know.. the prob is with the off network push to talk is that its only up to 8 miles of a radius so its kinda bad. plus u have to get the 325 and the 315 phones only..
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kx500

Apr 28, 2004, 9:22 PM
I doubt it will go 8 miles. The max pwr output is 800mw. Real world with los more like 4 miles.
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2004, 9:24 PM
it said up to 8 miles.. i think it will go 8 miles some motorola walkie talkies go 8 miles some are 6 .. but they are phones too so it doesnt matter i guess
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MarkF

Apr 29, 2004, 4:35 AM
8 miles won't be technicially possible unless your at a high altitude. Will be lucky if you get .5 mile with perfect conditions.
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nextel18

Apr 29, 2004, 1:39 PM
i guess we shall see then
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shayan30

Apr 28, 2004, 5:58 PM
those 4 links dont work. just thought i;d let u know
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2004, 7:33 PM
what up shayan
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ballerblue

Apr 11, 2005, 12:14 AM
This is the 1st message I have posted on here. Anyway, I thought I would share with all of you the fact that last spring I was in Acapulco, Mexico (partying real hard) and I was able to recieve phone calls on my Nextel I95CL. I was unable to make calls however, I COULD RECIEVE THEM. So if that puts any of your tribulations to rest, so be it.

Thanks

PS, When will Nextel come out w/ a bluetooth phone (not a pda phone ie. Blackberry)?
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2005, 4:01 PM
hahhaha. thats right. good place to party too.

with your question about the bluetooth phone, all i can say is that its coming out this year. ☹️
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Jeepster

Apr 11, 2005, 9:07 PM
These new phones slated to come out in June look pretty cool, I think I may go for the i850.
ttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1776614,0 0.asp
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nextel18

Apr 11, 2005, 9:20 PM
well, i cant comment on any of the phone or phones that are coming out in the future.

sorry. ☹️
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